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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 16:37 [#01753955]
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For all you unsigned folks out there making music...

Do you ever get really wound up that you haven't been signed
yet, or had stuff released? I mean, I've been pretty lucky
as of late (being involved in a number of projects and
collaborations) but still; the whole process is very slow,
and I have lots and lots of tracks that people are promising
things for but which never actually get out there.

I suppose it's just about determination and waiting for
someone to come along who will actually deliver. As I said,
I have been lucky as of late, but it's a pretty frustrating
process overall.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-10-18 16:40 [#01753959]
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yes. i've only ever sent one demo out. i never normally
bother because i'm too hard on myself.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-18 16:42 [#01753964]
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I make music for my own recreational purposes, mostly, so I
couldn't care less if I got signed or not.. or.. if I got
signed, I'd have more money... I'm not frustrated by it, at
least...


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-10-18 16:42 [#01753965]
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No. I'm not trying to get signed. I doubt i would want to
be.

I like making music for making music. I am just finishing up
my album currently and still plan on hosting it free. I am
happy because its the best stuff i have done to date.

I like taking concepts and then challenging myself. To get
feedback and people telling me they liked it is reward
enough.

This genre is far too small realistically to get anywhere
anyways. LOL


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 16:43 [#01753967]
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i don't ever expect and have never tried to, so no


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-10-18 16:46 [#01753972]
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i would like to get signed. i write music because i love it.
if i could make money doing something i love it would be
even better. if i was only doing it for the money, i
would've given up and not spent my last 5 years writing
music all the time


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-10-18 16:48 [#01753974]
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i want to be a superstar


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 16:49 [#01753977]
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Yes, I agree making music for it's own sake is fun. But I'm
utterly impractical, and not very good at anything apart
from music/imaging and perhaps creative writing.

It's not so much for the money (although getting money for
your own music would be great) but just so people could get
to hear the music. I'd see it as a tragic waste if my music
was only ever heard by myself and a few close friends and
family-and those who could be bothered to hear it online.
Not because I'm an arrogant sod-but it just feels a bit
aimless simply making one track after another and never
getting anything out there.


 

offline oyvinto on 2005-10-18 16:52 [#01753978]
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so, what have you released where?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-18 16:53 [#01753982]
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start your own label.

you'll need a lot of time and a lot of money, though - but
it can be done.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-18 16:54 [#01753984]
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im frustrated that my spams never get listened to :(


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-18 16:56 [#01753985]
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your spam does get listened to, though.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-18 16:58 [#01753987]
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good point
i meant like by millions of people all screaming about how
amazing it is!



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-18 17:00 [#01753988]
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oh alright, you're unlucky in that aspect.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-18 17:01 [#01753990]
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anyways.. if it is about other people hearing your music,
why not put mp3s and/or FLACs online for download?


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:04 [#01753991]
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I have done.

But you're right-I don't know why that hasn't happened yet.
I'm going to pay for a Zeebox account...


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-18 17:07 [#01753996]
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It's a bit late in the day for me, but I would so love to
have just one record out, a bit of vinyl I could wave around
and say, "Yep, that sold 54 copies back in 2006", just to be
a part of the great Pop History of which I have followed so
studiously the last 20 odd years (and they have been odd).

Ideally, I am fixated on having a double 7" gatefold sleeve,
grey vinyl release, two tracks on each side.



Attached picture

 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:08 [#01753998]
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I think if you want to get signed, the best thing to do is
make as much music as you can, and make it as available as
possible, online or whatever. People get heard that way, and
if its good enough, it does get noticed if you
publicise it enough - just look at people like Khonnor, or
Wisp.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:09 [#01753999]
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heheh. Yep, as long as you can say you've released
*something*.

;-)


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:09 [#01754000]
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And I'm more frustrated that my music isn't good enough, btw
:(


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:12 [#01754003]
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It probably is. We tend to be too critical with our own
stuff, I find. :-)

I've done some music with a singer called Andrea Black, I
did some weird sounds and synth lines on Grace Jone's new
album (yep, she's making a comeback...I luckily got
connected with her producer, who's called Ivor Guest) and
I've worked on material with an artist called Sarah Sahandi,
so I should be grateful. But that's all happened now, and
it's almost back to square one.


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-10-18 17:21 [#01754010]
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actually i would be interested in getting a netlabel going,
just for the crack really, artists of xltronic i think are
cool are taff, mls, cs2x spring to mind. gis a shout guys if
you're interested. only issue i would have with running a
netlabel is affording hosting fees.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-10-18 17:23 [#01754012]
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I'm a bit like that - one 12" would satisfy me. I was
disappointed that the promised Killbot 10" never
materialised, even tho that bastard Saul X Baker still has
one of my tracks on his site and plays it at gigs etc!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-18 17:25 [#01754014]
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print it up and distribute it yourself... it takes time and
some money, but it works.. it would here in Bergen anyway...
if I get a job soon (applications fly out in all
directions), I'd probably buy one.


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:26 [#01754015]
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It's not a bad idea at all, actually. I also like Gwely
Mernan's music...


 

offline clint from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:28 [#01754017]
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DO IT


 

offline Fah from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-18 17:28 [#01754018]
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its a pain to host a netlabel imho. have one running at the
moment too but i have to wait for a domain name. and it
easily makes you go lazy on it

for the frustration thing, to me it is kinda frustrating to
see everyone else around you get all signed and all
popstarry and shit, and you're sitting there making tracks
with some cunt shitting on your head, demanding you to make
tracks with rapvocals. and what i would kill to have
something of mine on vinyl, dunno why. guess i have a weak
for vinyl


 

offline i_x_ten from arsemuncher on 2005-10-18 17:28 [#01754019]
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i've never heard it



 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-18 17:34 [#01754024]
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Yeah, what is especially annoying is when there are people
around you getting signed who just sound naff. I'm not
saying I'm amazingly good, but there is some stuff out there
within this genre that makes you think-"how on earth did
this label get convinced to release this!?"

It's probably through connections and the like.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-18 17:36 [#01754025]
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i know lots of people who are signed, they are all mostly
lovely but it makes me sad :(

but then im prolly no better or deserving than anyone else
its just nice to have tunes heard



 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-10-18 18:03 [#01754036]
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Yeahhh, I had a look, what I wanted looked to be about 4,000
Euros, though I think, or at least hope, it could be
cheaper.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-18 18:42 [#01754061]
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good luck on that..!

vinyl is just incredibly expensive, especially if you want
to do stuff like gatefold sleeves, etc.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2005-10-18 20:19 [#01754115]
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vinyl is incredibly expensive unfortunately. but when you
start taking pre-orders, sign me up for one autographed
copy, please.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-19 04:24 [#01754213]
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damn!

how many records did you get for that??


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-19 04:25 [#01754214]
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did would


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-19 04:25 [#01754215]
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feck!

would.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-10-19 04:26 [#01754216]
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I committed 1337 X17 5uic|d3


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-19 05:44 [#01754223]
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Yes, every time I listen to a track I'm proud of and think,
"It's good, but it's not Warp main artist quality", I remind
myself that there are scores of established artists on
smaller labels that sound rubbish in comparison.

I'm not fussed about being signed. It'd be nice to get
enough cash so I could "legalise" my sample and music
software collection, perhaps even few more of bits hardware,
but I don't ever imagine (nor do I think I'd want to) making
a living off it. I believe if it was my sole source of
income I'd end up pandering to popular tastes and releasing
solely DnB and Dance tracks.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 05:53 [#01754225]
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Never wanted to release a record that much... when I got a
large selection of originals I put them in some kind of
album order and that was interesting but that's it; I only
ever wanted to play gigs really, which I do quite often.
Maybe you should do some, drum up some interest.


 

offline try-pod from Wimbledon, London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 06:27 [#01754239]
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I think we're all just sexually fustrated


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-10-19 06:29 [#01754241]
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I never know that you made any music at all! You lear
somethig new everyday i suppose.

: )

I am was supposed to be having something released. I don't
think it's going to happen though. Most of musicical ideas
and wants are still embryonic really. Maybe i will get there
eventually.


 

offline DeleriousWeasel from Guam on 2005-10-19 06:32 [#01754243]
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by George! you're right!

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offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:03 [#01754261]
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I wouldn't mind doing a few d'n'b tunes and other more
commerical tracks for extra cash while working on my own
more personal stuff at the same time. And if that stuff
gathered an interest, I'd be even happier. The thing is,
making house music/drum and bass/trance is fun for me anyway
(though I'm not claiming to be very good at it!)

I can't imagine a better "job" then making music for money,
and if that means producing more simplistic material for a
while (until it becomes possible for your more
"experimental" ideas to get out there) then so be it. To be
honest, the money's not even important: it's just the fact
that I could say, "yes, I've released something-I have an
actual album/EP out there!"


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:07 [#01754265]
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Yeh well it's a metal band so I don't shout about it here :D


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:12 [#01754276]
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I've done a few gigs, and they were pretty fun. But it's
harder then I thought it would be to come up with something
interesting in terms of visual performance when you're
playing electronic stuff live; bashing an MPC1000, touching
a KAOS pad and improvising some random notes on a synth
while staring into a laptop screen can't be the most
exciting thing to stare at. :-)


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-10-19 07:14 [#01754280]
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when i become independently wealthy, i'm going to release
some records by some of you chaps.

to get a copy of the list of those who made the cut, send me
a dollar.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:14 [#01754281]
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Sure, not everyone can get Plaid's live setup. But work on
finding interesting venues to make up for the lack of
something to look at... you are in London after all, never
know who's watching.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2005-10-19 07:18 [#01754286]
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Indeed.

CS2 try gettig a gig at the foundry, it has visual stimulus
there already.

Jar: Any chace i can hear some metal from you?


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:26 [#01754296]
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Cool, I'll have a look. There was one gig I did in a tent at
an event called "The Waiting" and they had some typical
swirling-clours-Windows Media Player-style things on a
screen behind me, but apparently even those added something.
Then again, some people would say that the music should
stand up on its own, and after seeing Ae live perhaps I'd
agree. It all depends on the event and the music you're
playing I guess.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-19 07:30 [#01754299]
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My drummer fucked up his collarbone shortly before we were
supposed to cut a demo, so we're inactive at the mo - should
be back in the swing of things soon, I'll let you know :)


 


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