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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 22:57 [#01749344]
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So how long do you think it will take to have an iPOD music / art video label? I think this could be interesting and has some great potential to bring this 'IDM' scene to a more multisensory engagement.
I'm seriously considering starting this.
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:05 [#01749345]
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What does this mean, exactly? A label that releases no physical media, only downloads?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 23:18 [#01749346]
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for the most part, yes.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-10-13 23:22 [#01749347]
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apple certainly seem to be moving to be in a position to be a music label, but obviously this isn't what you mean.
how does this differ from net labels?
apple will most certainly extend the... shit, what its called, where 'radio' shows are fed via rss feeds, to video.
(i'm curious, because i'm working on an idea simular to what you describe, but it involves a bit more).
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:26 [#01749348]
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Maybe you can talk to phobs about that. I'm sure he's thinking of something like that already.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 23:28 [#01749350]
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do you mean PodCasts? I guess it would be a net label, yes, but I see one way to address free downloads, would be the sheer size and quality of the video itself. I mean, a podcast is basically an mp3, but the consensus still delineates with that. Can not an mp4/mpg that deals with Net Art / Documentary / Expanded Cinema warrant another signifier?
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:33 [#01749353]
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what are you meaning to say?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-13 23:43 [#01749357]
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what the fuck is a podcast?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 23:43 [#01749358]
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Sorry, I thought that was clear. An individual who has an mp3 whose availability is made aware through RSS, has a podcast. Sooooo... I was thinking, a video artist, vj, netartist, whatever, who has an mp4/mpg made available c/o RSS or ppDL, has a.............? What? I dont have a name for that yet. I think starting a label around pairing the best in electronic music and experimental video would be a good start.
A ScreenCaster? PodPremiere? VIPod?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-13 23:45 [#01749359]
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Sorry, I thought that was clear. An individual who has an
mp3 whose availability is made aware through RSS, has a podcast. Sooooo... I was thinking, a video artist, vj, netartist, whatever, who has an mp4/mpg made available c/o RSS or ppDL, has a.............? What? I dont have a name for that yet. I think starting a label around pairing the best in electronic music and experimental video would be a good start.
Is it just me or is that all incoherent?
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:46 [#01749360]
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The term podcasting fuses the words iPod + Broadcast.
So, you can have an audio podcast, and now a video podcast.
No other terms seems to be requiresd.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 23:49 [#01749364]
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Current - mp3 with RSS = podcast Future - music video with RSS or pay-per-download = ?
gl0tch's idea = start a label that curates the latter.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-13 23:49 [#01749366]
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well, its not really a broadcast. They're not live. They're prerecorded mp3s.
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:50 [#01749369]
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see the post above you.
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ka
on 2005-10-13 23:51 [#01749371]
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a broadcast does not mean live, it is merely something that is cast broadly.
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ka
on 2005-10-14 00:00 [#01749373]
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goodnight glotch.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-14 00:01 [#01749374]
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Like an mp3, right? So why call it a podcast? See there is no difference essentially, accept that one makes its availability more widely known with RSS feeds. So, why not exploit this new founded idea and apply it to genre specific videos that can either be made available freely or through a payper download service not unlike Bleep.
Case in point, rewind 3 years ago:
Imagine you had a video iPod and Warp started a Music Video sublabel. In this pretend sublabel, their flagship release was Gantz Graf by some collaboration called Autechre / Rutteford. Now imagine it was only released for the Video iPOD. Catch my drift now?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-10-14 00:17 [#01749386]
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Do you have to have an iPod to do a Podcast?
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-10-14 00:18 [#01749388]
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what would be the problem with that? the label pays (or rather, the artist unwittingly pays) for a promotional video and then sells it by the download? sounds a lot smarter than paying MTV to play it - this way people pay you to see your advertisement.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-14 01:58 [#01749417]
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well yes... and it also challenges the One Way direction of sound and image. Typically the music comes first, than an unrelated director's interpretation of said song. What if it was the other way around? Or better yet, what if the visual artist is there during the writing process of the song? More collaborative, perhaps less literal, etc.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-14 02:03 [#01749419]
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no you dont need an iPod. Its more less that anyone can come up with content (read: the audio version of a blog basically) and "publish" it on schedule through RSS feeds. From there, people can listen to these shows, stories, song collections, or whatever, on their convenient shiny portable mp3 player.
Ultimately there is nothing different from an mp3 to a podcast. Its just a yuppie techno fetishist object with a more trendy name.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-10-14 02:15 [#01749422]
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apple are almost most definitely going to add video support for podcasting in itunes in the very near future.
what you're suggesting, once this is available, is a 'video net label' that releases gear via video podcasting? or something different?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-14 02:21 [#01749424]
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This is sorta what I am talking about
So where an indie film still needs some type of production team, why not start a label that would curate or pair like minded, but previously unacquainted, visual artists and musicians in the same way? Starting a label would be easier to get these non-mtv vids on iTunes, considering several independent musicians have difficulty getting their stuff on there in the first place.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-10-14 02:22 [#01749425]
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what do you mean "releases gear?"
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