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offline bassix from Adelaide (Australia) on 2005-10-11 02:19 [#01746515]
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anyone out there tried mixing up on 4 decks?

i have been experimenting on 4 decks with a friend of mine
(2 decks each). we found it quite difficult at first,
getting a rhythm going and also getting the technical
aspects correct...such as, should we follow a primary track,
should we only have one bassline going at any one time, when
to swap the bass, finding out which track was out of time
etc.

we thoroughly enjoy mixing this way now as so much more is
happening.

has anyone else had similar experiences?



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-11 02:45 [#01746518]
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I've only tried 3. Even with 3 (or 2 decks and a drum
machine), if you have one or more of the tracks that isn't
100% quantised, no amount of beat matching will get it to
gel properly if the tracks are remotely crowded and all
playing at once. With 2 decks you can often get away with it
as having, say, the bassline and drums slightly of time is
not really a problem (some styles of music even do that
intentionally). I still find 3 decks good for allowing
another track to be queued up ready to allow for faster
transitions between 3 tracks, as well as using 2 of the
decks traditionally, whilst the third is used for
samples/scratches.

There's a bloke called DJ Trickster who does 6 decks (he
refers to it as cubism). He uses special dubplates with one
element of a track on each one (eg bassline on one, snares
on the other, pads on another, kick drums on another, etc.)
and as he says, trying to use normal records for it, it ends
up sounding like "cutlery falling down stairs".


 

offline EVOL from a long time ago on 2005-10-11 02:47 [#01746520]
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i'd like to try it with two cd decks and two turntables...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-11 03:06 [#01746523]
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I've done that before (with Abletone Live on a pc & an
electribe drum machine on another channel too!), so for
example, you could mix cd->vinyl->vinyl, but I've never had
more than 3 things sounding at once.

If cost wasn't so prohibitive, I'd quite like to try 4
decks, 2 final scratch-type devices and a 4 channel mixer
and either ready break up tracks to seperate parts
(filtering to isolate say a bassline, or cutting and looping
during drum solos, etc.) which could then be combined that
way, or even doing my own tracks like that, similar to how
trixter did.


 

offline Jaser from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-11 05:20 [#01746540]
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don't bother if you can't mix with 2.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2005-10-11 07:10 [#01746597]
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jeff mills - exhibitionist - 3 decks

check if you can find a movie from skalpel as they are
playing their "journey to outer space" from 4 decks. but
there are 2 dj's...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-10-11 07:14 [#01746599]
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umek plays from 4 decks, but i don't see the point of it
really.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-10-11 07:26 [#01746604]
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i still need another turntable. i already have the mixer and
a turntable, and a little stack of wax. (i could get more if
i had more money.)


 


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