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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-23 23:08 [#01732376]
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Only 30 seconds of something I am working on. Sound OK so far?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 23:11 [#01732378]
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good so far, i say
i do like the beat :)
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-09-23 23:13 [#01732380]
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Ok. That snare sound drives me nuts... too hollow and the gating is annoying. Cut from some break i'm not too fond of to boot.
The hi-hats that come in are a nice attempt at aphex drukqs era cut up stuff but it's not frenetic enough and it sounds really... "obvious". I actually like the ring mod work but it's marred by the fact that it's covered in pretty awful samples :<.
As for the BEEP MAP melody... yes I've caught you. You're obviously a fruity loops user (which I fucking love honestly) and it shows. Rule number 1 of flp use: if you are using beepmap, cover it up so you don't give yourself away! Try automation of the rate at which it reads the image if it doesnt crash, and experiment with pitch modulation, and try to stay away from the "Linear" setting on the generator!
Hope that wasn't too harsh!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-23 23:18 [#01732381]
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Not at all, thanks for listening. What the fuck is a beep map melody though? :P I haven't ever used Fruity Loops :) It is a combination if a glass synth patch and some pitch shifting/delay through Max/MSP :)
I will change some of the samples...I always do :)
Jack: thanks for listening.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-09-23 23:23 [#01732383]
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are you serious? i can create that same sound by loading porn into beep map haha.
anyway... this doesnt sound like max to me :>
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-23 23:25 [#01732385]
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Congratulations you must be very proud.
But I have no idea what you mean by this doesn't sound like Max to you...how does something sound like Max?
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 23:32 [#01732386]
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I like this much better than your previous one. There is more variety in the complexity and it isn't whitenoiseish sounding and as a whole is pretty close to autechre's latter tracks. I agree the snare sounds off... like from a drum sample pack whereas the other percussion does more interesting stuff, although often your tracks seem to be works in progress and you intended to change something like this anyway.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-09-23 23:36 [#01732387]
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no need to be a prat :> it sounds like beep map to me. that is all!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 23:38 [#01732390]
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Do you have to meticulously program the subtle stuff or only the program and it meticulously programs the subtle stuff... ie. after you make the code or whatever, can you easily generate like 5 hours of this general type of construction with it (and the code adds subtle changes similar to what was in this 30 second clip somewhat randomly)?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-23 23:41 [#01732392]
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haha, yeah after I clicked submit on that one I thought I had been a bit of a tit, it was a reactionary reply which was a bit stupid. :P
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-23 23:43 [#01732393]
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The drums are hand sequenced in this track. I just used Max for some audo processing.
However in sequencing these drums I have had a good idea and will be translating it into generative stuff at a later date :)
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 23:49 [#01732395]
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what does the... interface to max look like if you don't mind... is it like a word processor (c++ish)? And do you have to learn a completely new language unique to it to use it?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-24 00:09 [#01732400]
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In my experience your music has all the heart and soul of an unplugged robot and this is no different. Everything you do sounds like you've chucked it out in five minutes, with all the disdain of an oversexed mandroid. I was going to say "this is no crticisim", but I guess it is. However it's only my opinion and is not born from malice, I wish you'd do a longer track becuase I believe you have the skills but most of the time I feel you can't be remotely bothered.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-09-24 00:38 [#01732411]
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Heh... The beep map sounds like every other color organ out there. But its very limited in its possibilities.
The best way to pin down flp is through listening to the rigid programming.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-24 04:20 [#01732464]
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oooh! I like the drums! it's like an electronic version of that classic jazz thingie with all the toms...
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-24 11:19 [#01732732]
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yeah, what can I say, I'm shit. I do these things but I'm not good enough to do full tracks, everytime I try I end up with nothing because I can't get melodies to sound like they do in my head. I'll just keep pissing about and only post never. Thanks for listening everyone.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2005-09-25 16:42 [#01733909]
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Man you're getting a lot better
The placement of each drum is way better than I remember from you... 30 seconds is not enough for that piece. Damn skippy you're good enough to do full tracks, you gotta find a way to keep running with the cool beats
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-09-25 18:06 [#01733957]
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very nice drums, with some nice tweaks in the filtering thereof. i like the very distant dark synths in the background. so far, i like it. perhaps some timbre underneath?
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-25 19:05 [#01733973]
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this could be a track some day
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-26 04:07 [#01734135]
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didnt like the snares much either but the rest was really nice.
one of the coolest things i've heard from you is still 'deadofnight'.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-26 04:47 [#01734150]
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I quite like it. The synths aren't my thing, but the crunchy drum sounds used are excellent.
If you feel "left out", why not join in with this compilation? :)
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staz
on 2005-09-26 06:26 [#01734176]
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I quite liked this, mostly because of the drum groove. And yeah, nothing "sounds" like Max/MSP because it's INCREDIBLY versatile. Not everything made in it has to sound like LP5, you know!
Anyway, I won't continue on with tips on how to improve it, because you'll find out shit like that for yourself as you evolve your style. It shouldn't really be necessary to tell you what I would like to hear when it's you making the track! Also, I hate getting too technical on message boards. Cool tune!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-26 11:06 [#01734303]
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I thought it was pretty cool, and I've love it to be longer. Sounds like Untilted to me. :-)
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-09-26 11:09 [#01734310]
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Hey this is a cool track! Can`t wait until it`s finished!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-27 15:55 [#01735303]
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This was nice to come back to...thanks fellas :)
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-09-27 18:04 [#01735465]
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god should forbid you to use music programs.
lay off lad, you aren't creative at all.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 18:09 [#01735466]
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what audio processing did u do in max msp?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-27 18:10 [#01735467]
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yeah maybe I should just accept I have no creativity and make noise music instead?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 18:11 [#01735468]
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Don't give up; turn this into something! I honestly think it has potential.
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 18:14 [#01735469]
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honestly i dont understand why ppl do this with trax - no offense
why do u have to ask other ppl if something u just made is any good or not ? shouldnt u be yr own best critic ,trust yr own ears
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-27 18:14 [#01735470]
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On this one nothing much. I was experimenting with realtime audio manipulation, only problem is that my laptop has only two channels so basically I can only work in mono at the moment which is sort of shit, so I exported a bar of the synth and pissed about with that instead as a sample.
Everything I have done in MaxMSP so far is just experimentation through interest. I haven't posted most of the stuff because people just say its shit.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-27 18:15 [#01735471]
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I do trust my own opinion it is just that sometimes other people hear things you don't hear yourself or make suggestions that lead to new ideas etc.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-09-27 18:16 [#01735472]
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well, i don't do just noise for your concern...
and sometimes music production isn't just random beatz with nonsence melody on top of it.
what do you want to achieve with this...did you manage to put feelings inside or are you just searching?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-09-27 18:18 [#01735474]
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Random beats? Now please come on.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-27 18:26 [#01735475]
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I'd loop the beginning (with mainly the beat sounds) a few more times, before the weird melodic-ish elements come in. Then loop that second bit a few more times...I'd gladly listen to a few repeats of it...I don't reckon you need to change so quickly.
Maybe keep the beats going (but variate them) and add some atmospheric elements which grow in intensity. I know that sounds cliched, but it could really work.
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