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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-09-22 06:06 [#01730091]
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more than half of our planeterian population lead a Safe life by following the system and leading their daily routine, and listening to what the media feeds them with. It is sad to say that these people tend to lack in sensitivity and respect toward others. They won't dare to look in your eyes when you cross the street... or to simply reply to a kind "greeting".
this is frightening.... Never fall into this black hole!!!! Just addapt here and there instead!!! :)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 06:14 [#01730105]
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I follow a fair bit of "the system" because it suits me to do so. Doesn't mean they've pulled the wool over my eyes, or that I'm loyal to it, or that I think it's flawless.
Oh and I'm quite happy to look people in the eye and I usually respond to a "hello" from a stranger, unless they look like a panhandler, marketing person, or religious salesperson.
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-09-22 06:18 [#01730110]
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hehe :) sounds pretty good to me ... you seem to addapt.
which is cooL.
i wasnt really reffering to anyone in particular though, i was just noticing.
;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 08:10 [#01730201]
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I agree a lot of people don't seem aware of it and just blindly follow, questioning nothing, etc.
Some might arge my approach lumps me in with those people, I'd disagree.
Have you read the new Harry Potter? There's a bit in that where they talk about Harry have to face Voldemort, but that he can do it through choice, as opposed to due to fate and that the former is vastly preferable. It's a poor, tenuous analogy, but I'd say the same applies in this instance.
Being in the system, but being aware of it and choosing to do so because it suits your own ends is much better than being in it because you know no different.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-09-22 08:11 [#01730205]
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do you mean white people?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-22 08:20 [#01730216]
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Sorry, but this is complete bullshit. First off there is not such a thing as a system. There are many diffrent 'systems' and you as a person are a system too.
No one, believes what the media feeds them, thats elitarist thinking, lots of people know that the 'media' represents only a constructed view of the so called 'reality'
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 08:29 [#01730225]
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LAZY_TITLEhttp://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Fact s.asp
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 08:37 [#01730235]
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First off there is not such a thing as a system. There are many diffrent 'systems' and you as a person are a system too.
He's probably talking about Western Capitalist society in this instance. I concede there are other systems, but as this is currently the most powerful and consequently, most hated, they tend to take back seat positions in such debates.
No one, believes what the media feeds them, thats elitarist
thinking, lots of people know that the 'media' represents only a constructed view of the so called 'reality'
It's not a case of believeing everthing or nothing. It's the degree to which you believe it. For example, I believe a lot of news, whilst often flawed and slightly innaccurate, is, by and large, fairly truthful and shouldn't be disregarded in its entireity. Similarly, I believe so government reports are comparatively unbiased, whereas others are massively flawed and intentionally misleading.
Also, some people sadly do believe everything (or almost everything) the government and media pedal, although I agree they are less common than the intellectual elite would like to think.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 08:40 [#01730238]
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actually you'd be suprised
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 08:45 [#01730248]
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About what?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 08:49 [#01730253]
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this
!SUPRISE!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 08:54 [#01730259]
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You are correct: That did indeed suprise me. :D
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-09-22 08:56 [#01730263]
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This thread is drooling
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-22 09:00 [#01730271]
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I believe a lot of news, whilst often flawed and slightly innaccurate, is, by and large, fairly truthful and shouldn't be disregarded in its entireity
Of course, what else can one do? You either believe it, or you do not. Id say the 'manipulation' occours through the mechanism of selection, what is considered information/no information by the editors.
I think everyone knows that.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-22 09:01 [#01730275]
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I agree with you. But I follow the system not only because it suits me, but beccause it offers me a safe heaven and so I want to show some respect and cooperation towards it. I am willing to compromise with the things I do not agree with to an extent, because without it the very safety of my life and everything I posess would be hugely reduced.
Many people who follow the "system" don't do it out of blindness, but out of their interpretation of intrinsic human nature (which may be overly pessismistic), out of a desire to compromise for the good of the majority, and out of respect for what it offers.
What I've just said may be rubbish. I'm not very clever, just sharing some views. :-)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 09:04 [#01730281]
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I agree that editorial selection plays a large part in what they choose to display, which in turn influences people's perceptions. I think it's important not to switch to the other extreme and decry it as all manipulation (although invariably some of it is) and instead subscribe to every alternative belief and conspiracy theory, as some sort of "anti-system" practice.
The counter-culture movement also make use of exaggeration, selective editorals and outright deception. All information should be viewed with a critical eye, regardless of its point of origin.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-22 09:09 [#01730288]
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What kind of system exactly do you follow? There are mayn systems, not only one. The economic system integrates you, and you integrate the economic system, into your psychic-system. There is no other way to survive. But you can RE-INVENT yourself thus gain activley an IDENTITY, of course only with the help of the other systems around you
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-22 09:11 [#01730290]
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Basiclly everyone trolls everyone, and we cant do anything about it
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 09:11 [#01730292]
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how can there be order when there is only chaos?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-22 09:12 [#01730293]
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Why do you say there is only chaos?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-22 09:13 [#01730294]
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Order? Because everyone watches everyone
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staz
on 2005-09-22 09:14 [#01730296]
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RAGING AGAINST THE MACHINE
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 09:15 [#01730298]
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it sounded like a cool thing to say
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-22 09:16 [#01730299]
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HAHAHAAAAAHAA
proper lol :D
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-09-22 09:31 [#01730326]
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Yeah, I don't evison there being drum machines, music software, curries, stability, videogames, martial arts, sail and powerboats, motorbikes, alcohol, turntables, mixers, electronic music, cars, etc. in short, most of the things that make me happy, without some sort of system.
Occassionally having to repress the urge to give someone a kicking, torching a business that has wronged me in some way, or using a bit of discretion as to when and where I speed, seem small prices to pay for all of the above.
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OK
on 2005-09-22 22:25 [#01731119]
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i think your estimation of half is esceeds a lot as aska lk redaction sucks
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thatne
from United States on 2005-09-22 22:37 [#01731121]
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Yes, that's real.
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