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obviously we all enjoy the sound of electronic music but is it the most perfect/complete stuff to be found in context of electronica? what music would you say comes closest to perfection? |
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what? what other stuff, apart from electronic music, can be found in the context of electronica? are you talking about which is better, pure electronica or electronica-bands (postal service etc) ? NNNGHH |
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SO FUCKING EXASPERATED |
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*scratches head* i've just had my hair cut... |
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records in the style of warp's AI series. incunabula, surfing on sine waves & bytes. |
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i was simply asking what music you find to be the closest to perfection.. |
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WELL THEN electronica tracks on drukqs are perfect some drukqs piano tracks are also perfect rachmaninov's 2nd and 3rd piano concerti are perfect js bach's goldberg variations are perfect jeff buckley's grace is perfect the beatles' abbey road is perfect and of course frank zappa's jazz rock stuff is fucking perfect |
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a perfect circle are far from perfect. |
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the song "3 libras" is rather perfect however |
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also, is fucking perfect. just listen to that bass riff. all the riffs... perfect.. |
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absolute silence would probably be objectively perfect... ...and also just plain boring. |
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...the word perfect does have a boring quality to it... |
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otomo yoshihide once did a set with all his effects, samplers and everything else empty..it was an hour long set of silence.. |
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OHH MAN THAT'S SO DEEP AND SUCH AN ORIGINAL IDEA what a fucking fag (not you, this otomo fuckhead) |
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thinking again about the question you asked, some people make cold, clinical music out of sine waves that are the "purest" form of sound i guess... but that's probably not what you want. (and one could always complain that the sound of a CD is not perfect, nor would be the restitution of blah blah blah blah...) if i take it subjectively, "Roads" by Portishead comes to mind. but it's not really "perfect", just really great (and sad) to my ears. do you know your question is exasperating?! ; ) |
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can you imagine the crowd? used to everything, but this was a bit too much i think.. |
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exasperating in what way? :) and yes, i was thinking totally subjectivly..it's not another one of those lets try to find a definition threads :) personaly i find im a bit of a music snob.. |
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yeah, and Sachiko M did a concert once where all she did was play a continous sine wave for the whole time, with a very long fade to silence at the end. some time ago, some people asked me which were my ten favourite songs; i kept on changing my mind all the time, but my latest top 10 was as follows: Sonic Youth - Hits Of Sunshine (for Allen Ginsberg) Portishead - Roads Tool - Disposition/Reflection/Triad The Young Gods - Moon Revolutions The Smashing Pumpkins - Thru The Eyes Of Ruby Radiohead - Just Underworld - Dirty Epic PJ Harvey - Yuri-G Nirvana - Serve The Servants Elysian Fields - Bayonne |
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it's not an original idea. once it's been done once, it's not so impressive. |
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who cares about perfection |
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you can also add these: Opeth - Blackwater Park, Weakness Coil - The Dreamer Is Still Asleep, Backwards! Massive Attack - Antistar Noir Désir - À l'envers à l'endroit Air - La femme d'argent, Don't Be Light Rachel's - Last Things Last Beck - Diamond Bollocks, Paper Tiger Latyrx - Storm Warning The Mars Volta - Take The Veil Cerpin Taxt Melvins - Revolve |
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nirvana, the melvins, and the first three dinosaur jr lp's. |
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and shellac is perfect. |
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Nirvana? man I haven't listened to them in ten years. Christ. |
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frank would probably never approve of you listening to filth like that. |
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indeed, he was quite disenchanted with how punk music was embraced and glorified by the recording industry and the masses. however, he did play some punk (at least 2 songs) on that DJ session on the BBC that i have. (not saying that nirvana is punk, but.. y'know what i'm saying..) |
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ever since the three other dead kennedys sued jello biafra, jello likes to brag about how he was hanging out with frank zappa and frank told him to lose the other guys because of their questionable characters. if only he had taken frank zappa's advice, maybe he wouldn't have lost the rights to his own music! |
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* effectively lost the rights |
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Drukqs is perfect. |
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hahaha! is that so. silly jello. |
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Well crafted pussy-pop is only about 2% of my musical diet, but it's my favorite. The Beatles, Harry Nilsson and the Free Design being my three favorite artists, they write circles around everyone. And then other guys like Brian Wilson, Curt Boettcher, They have nothing to hide behind or fall back on except their songcraft and charisma. It's precarious, it's so easy to make a pop song sound dumb if you don't know what you're doing. Other than that, I don't think it's possible to make a bad choral work. Stuff like Arvo Part's Te Deum and Alfred Schnittke's Psalms of Repentence sound amazing even when the compositions themselves aren't amazing. And when the compositions ARE amazing, watch the fuck out, pure music. Post-punk, I don't think I've heard too much bad post-punk... the style is cool by design, and low maintenance. |
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Deep Purple or Delerium |
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Karate's "Some Boots" is perfect in a way. |
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There appears to be no such thing. The said choice of music would need to have a profound outstanding everlasting effect on the listener. That in essence is nearly impossible. Considering we all have so much life yet to live. |
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I must admit I've listened to drukqs like 30 nights in a row atm |
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there is only one bad richie track, drukqs "qwerly mermans" |
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minimal-techno is perfect, or supose to be ..the problem is ofcourse that alot of minimal trax are boring, "not perfect" to you ..but then others are.. alot of Studio Eins trax has the perfect touch, in my ears.. a simple loop that goes on and on for 5-15 mins, and when the track is over you go "I wanna hear it again!!" :P that's a perfect loop ;) |
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Peaches En Regalia by Zappa |
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Brian Eno's MS Windows startup sound |
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Thanks for asking, tolstoyed my most perfect music is probably something like "444" which is trippy dreamy expansive ethereal empyrean. That's the one I like the best, kind of reflective a li'l melancholy but hopeful like me and also it has the awesome melody and makes you see geometricals of various sorts too. Other times my paragon is invariably Squarepusher, I think that he is one of the greatest musicians ever. My first love in his music was Hard Normal Daddy and the reason why I love it so much is because it syncretises traditional instrumentation and musical history with electronics and their possibilities for expanding consciousness or enabling ideas, and the emotion that he puts into his music and his dedication to it and also his righteousness resonates with me he is my superhero, really. IDM is the best. |
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perfect for one thing is waaay too subjective to put in the minds of people. but. for me, BOC is perfect for me when i am in the mood. squarepusher is perfect for me when i'm in the mood aphex is perfect when i'm in the mood. beethoven is perfect for me when i'm in the mood.... and so on and so on and so on.... music i love. don't you? |
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i guess perfect = favourite ? i heard perfect music only in my lucid dreams, of course perfect maybe because other stuff related to LD was involved. ok, in wide awake state i found mozart's music almost perfect, but i admint that on my mp3 1GB flash player alway 200MB is dedicated to old aphex twin (saw, icbyd, ab...), it works always. and next my "perfect" sound is deep deep deep deep house or techno. i like when music doesn't flood your ears and you have space where to live, just like suitably stoned :) |
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