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offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 12:07 [#01703227]
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I remember I used to be blown away all the time by really
fresh sounding music. But nothing has really impressed me
for ages. I mean, I still listen to electronica and buy it
(probably more than ever, since I am working full time now)
but nothing really excites me like it used to. Remember the
first time you heard Windowlicker or roygbiv or whatever.
Can you honestly say you've had that OMG feeling recently?
The last album that made me think "wow" was "Down with the
scene" by Kid 606. And that was about four years ago. Unless
there's some awesome new artists I'm missing out on or
something.


 

offline Flipered from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-22 12:09 [#01703231]
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listen to abba or something solidly for a year or so. Should
rekindle your interest for a few more years


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2005-08-22 12:11 [#01703235]
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Dance music not dead says Fatboy Slim

"Last month the Brit Awards announced they would no longer
be awarding a Best Dance Act prize, with the Brits committee
announcing that "dance music is no longer where it's
happening in music." These developments lead some to suggest
that dance was finished as a popular music genre. "


 

offline _gvarek_ from next to you (Poland) on 2005-08-22 12:12 [#01703237]
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your missing out Richard Devine


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 12:15 [#01703241]
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Because people just want shitty indie or pop bands handed to
them on a plate. Look at the NME, hyping thoroughly medicre
indie bands to sell papers and the retard readers just lap
it up, thinking they're into something really subversive.


 

offline Clic on 2005-08-22 12:24 [#01703244]
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Why do you give a shit?


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 12:27 [#01703245]
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Because I want to feel like music is progressing rather than
just running in circles. I want to bring the good times
back. Smiling, dancing, etc,


 

offline Clic on 2005-08-22 12:29 [#01703246]
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No, about what other people want.

And look around more. There's PLENTY of music out there.


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-08-22 12:31 [#01703247]
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oh great another "oh electronic music is shit bla bla bla"
if you're not finding anything that doesn't blow you away
you're not searching good enough. do you look past mtv?
here's a list of stuff for you to check out.

Amina - Animamina
Greenbank - Rotating The Square EP
koushik - Be With
manitoba - start breaking my heart
minikon - minikon
minikon - super minikon
takagi masakatsu - coieda
Mitchell Akiyama - Small Explosions that Are Your's to Keep
Mitchell Akiyama - If Night Is A Weed And Day Grows Legs
o9 - church of the ghetto pc
otto von schirach - Global Speaker Fisting
richard devine - asect:dsect
ola bergman - pseudocarp
tim exile - hanzo steel cuts
william basinski - disintegration loops

man i can go on forever. you check these out and report back
to me soldier.


 

offline Clic on 2005-08-22 12:32 [#01703248]
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"Terminal Red" on that o9 album is great.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-08-22 12:39 [#01703250]
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its good if dance music isnt widely recieved, people will
stop making crappy pop trance cum housey stuff. Theres
allways been a pumping underground, obviously, its so
blatant. hopefully itll just get more and more dirty until
its resurgence, which will happen soon enough anyway.

im just waiting for the hiphop/rnb fixture to fuck off. its
been getting shitter recently

the onslught of hip bands is the new cool in england, people
arent afraid of the 80's anymore.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 12:45 [#01703252]
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Because I want to go to clubs and feel like there's
something happening, not just me sitting around listening to
music on a computer.



 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 12:47 [#01703254]
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Re:the onslught of hip bands is the new cool in england,
people
arent afraid of the 80's anymore.

That's part of the problem, not the solution. I mean the
whole 80's revival thing was cool a few years ago, but now
it's degenerated into bands like The Killers and gay shit
like that.


 

offline rasec from mty (Mexico) on 2005-08-22 12:54 [#01703256]
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swears go to a cryogenic center and tell me to wake you when
music is better for you, beacuse it appears that you're just
mad with the music played/made at the present...

maybe in 2099 when i'll still be playing RDJ Album, dancing
at the sound of Girl/Boy Song...


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 13:00 [#01703262]
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I really like some stuff that's coming out at the moment.
For instance the Jackson and Chok Rock singles on Warp,
Soulwax, Team Doyobi, etc, etc, but it just doesn't thrill
me as much as it did when I was about 15-16. (I'm 22 now).


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-08-22 13:05 [#01703265]
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You fucking washed up old man, go get in your cubicle and
collate my dry cleaning bills. Pleasure as you knew it is
OVER.


 

offline rasec from mty (Mexico) on 2005-08-22 13:08 [#01703268]
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i know what it feels like... i felt "stuck" at some point of
my life, so i switched genres... i started listening Ninja
Tune's bands, indie/pop/rock/eclectic webradio, some
Chevelle, a little Slipknot and came back to BoC... i'm
waiting for their latest material to be released at a store
near me...


 

offline Exaph from United Kingdom on 2005-08-22 13:10 [#01703269]
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''im just waiting for the hiphop/rnb fixture to fuck off.
its
been getting shitter recently''

hear! hear! too funny, but true. :D


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 13:12 [#01703272]
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I'm going to see Vitalic in a couple of weeks, so maybe
that'll rekindle my love of teh beets.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-08-22 13:20 [#01703276]
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When i dont hear what i like i simply make what i want to
hear.

Also when you stick yourself to one genre you limit yourself
and "drain the resources" of that particluar genre. Broaden
your horizons. Listen to as much varied music as possible.

Listen to Triosk and Farben. Thats what i say


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 13:23 [#01703279]
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I only wanna hear crazy-ass-futuristic shit. No indie bands
or pitchforkmedia gayness please.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-08-22 13:33 [#01703286]
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i hate this way of creating controversy, youve got the
problem, not the electronica, no need to do that thread
title. and yeah, keep looking in all the wrong places and
you'll end up listening to... what? im asking you this
question, what would you listen to if it wasnt electronica?
which genres of music do you think is as creative, exciting
and mind stimulating as electronica?

and yeah, chances are that you probably only know a small
range of electronic music? you know, it isnt just skam,
warp, planetmu and rephlex?



 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-22 13:44 [#01703299]
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I'm not trying to create controversy, I just wondered if
anybody felt the same way.


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2005-08-22 14:09 [#01703323]
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this music will never die off. it like rock music will get
lame at times but as long as theres someone in the world
that enjoys it they'll try to carry it on. i know i try
everyday to make a track...i'm no snares aphex []pusher or
fill your idmbreakcore wet dream name here but.

anyway...

"Last month the Brit Awards announced they would no longer
be awarding a Best Dance Act prize, with the Brits committee

announcing that "dance music is no longer where it's
happening in music." These developments lead some to suggest

that dance was finished as a popular music genre. "

umm, where's it at huh? Joss Stone? yuck! i don't listen to
pop radio anymore, well i can't actually, can't stand it.
warp is dying off if they keep releasing shitty !!! bands,
planet mu is awesome, and rephlex...is well rephlex. there
are a lot of smaller labels popping up schematic, sublight,
coredump tons of others i dont' even know about but they're
starting up and hopefully ushering in new stuff.

to me the film industry is dead...small independant movies
are where its at. i have friends that work for paramount
and warner brothers and they say its such a joke. how movies
are made and marketed now....creativity is dead in that
market which is sad. but i still have hope for films just
not the big companies trying to ruin them


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2005-08-22 14:28 [#01703357]
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with hindsight swears realizes that it was he who changed,
not the music. now he has only to find out who changed him,
and why.


 

offline thecrimsonguard from ∞ (United States) on 2005-08-22 14:31 [#01703362]
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besides if they're basing a whole genre and the chemical
brothers fatboy slim and daft punk they're idiots. just
because their albums didn't sell doesn't mean shit.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-08-22 14:32 [#01703363]
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Sure i do.

Its out there. It depends what you are looking for. Give me
examples.

Do you like Glitch? How experimental? Do you listen to Ryoji
Ikeda? What do you need to hear.

Examples will be great.


 

offline japes from Suriname on 2005-08-22 14:36 [#01703366]
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I reckon you're just nostalgic when you first heard
something that was more interesting than the pop rock bilge
that's pushed out so hard by fat record companies.

Listen to some delta blues, classical, ragtime, ambient
whatever, and then come back to it.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-08-22 14:45 [#01703370]
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Yeah by bouncing around you can really cleanse you pallet so
to speak.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-08-22 17:27 [#01703517]
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disco died


 

offline japes from Suriname on 2005-08-22 18:31 [#01703555]
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But it was resucitated later as is the way with musical
genres.

Disco's fucking great for dancing to. You've got an instant
licence to act like a prannock!


 

offline bryce_berny from chronno (Canada) on 2005-08-22 18:51 [#01703563]
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disco only died in the us


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-08-22 19:01 [#01703566]
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thank goodness


 

offline yann_g from now on 2005-08-22 19:06 [#01703567]
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listen to the samples @ boomkat.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-08-22 20:21 [#01703596]
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check out pentaphobe - quite good.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-08-22 20:22 [#01703597]
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well there's other music too. all music scenes are like
oceans, with ebbs and tides, and it sadly looks like the
scene is nearing a good ebb. why not look at some older
electronic music, or better yet, fuel that anger and make
good electronic music on your own?


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2005-08-22 21:35 [#01703620]
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'Electronica sucks now'

I wouldn't entirely say that's the case. Autechre have
proven this year thay they're still going strong, and Boards
of Canada have an upcoming release this October. Of course,
that's just on Warp. There are other less noticed artists
out there as well, such as Ochre, Machine Drum, Mochipet,
Brothomstates...check out the Merck label.

Also, it's not necessary to confine yourself to only one
genre of preference. There's an ocean of tunes out there.



 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 06:14 [#01703922]
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This song restores my faith in music.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-08-23 06:37 [#01703949]
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you should check out tod dockstader's 'aerial'..as fresh as
electronic music gets :)


 

offline zero-cool on 2005-08-23 06:48 [#01703955]
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have you heard of analouge bubblbath 5/ or ceephax acid
crew-since you seem knew


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 12:32 [#01704425]
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Re:have you heard of analouge bubblbath 5/ or ceephax acid
crew-since you seem knew

No, I am not "knew". Please stop trying to take me to
electronica school. You patronising gits. I have been
listening to electronica for about seven years and have
heard/heard of/own at least three albums by most of the
artists recommended by people on this thread. I have
collected over 300 vinyl records and god knows how many
MP3s. And yes, *sigh* I have heard of stuff on labels aside
from warp, rephlex, skam and planet mu.
I listen to lots of stuff on mille plateau, merck,
tigerbeat6, disko B, kompakt, schematic, ipecac, etc, etc,

I just don't feel the same passion for it anymore.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2005-08-23 12:38 [#01704438]
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sounds like you've overdosed. Happens to the best of us at
times. Easily done when you have a large record collection,
disposable cash and an endless supply of MP3s. It can be
tough to give the music the attention it deserves.
Still it is true that at least 90-odd per cent of all
musical genres' output lacks inspiration. It's that cream at
the top that you're after - whatever style of music you're
listening too. And it isn't always easy to come by.
I really do think it's a shame if you never get that shiver
of excitement from listening to something new. I don't get
is as often as I used to, but then, that might just be
because - when you first discover a whole new world of sound
and music, you're simply a less experienced listener. The
more you're exposed to anything the more it has to stand out
to impress you I guess.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 12:41 [#01704441]
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I really think it's because the musicians are running in
circles now, there's less innovation.


 

offline staz on 2005-08-23 12:43 [#01704444]
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it's because the gates are so widely opened.

you expect too much.


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2005-08-23 12:45 [#01704446]
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Possibly. I can think of plenty of great albums from the
last few years. But not necessarily a lot of new ground
broken. Not the way it was when the technology was new and
no one knew quite what it's potential was.
But I would refute the idea that the music isn't advancing.
I would say, however, that I think listening to nowt but
'electronica' (and everyone has their own definition of what
that term includes and excludes) isn't healthy.
As the old cliché says: "variety is the spice of life"


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 12:50 [#01704453]
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I do listen to some other stuff, mainly electro and more
straight up dance stuff like Vitalic, Daft Punk etc, but I
dunno...

I just want to hear something that makes my jaw drop again.
I remember buying Druqks and thinking that even though it
was technically well put together, it didn't break ground in
the same way the Richard D. James album did. Do you know
what I mean?


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2005-08-23 12:56 [#01704460]
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Sort of.

But going on the other stuff you said you listen to, I'd
still say that your musical net isn't cast anywhere near
wide enough. Electronica is probably the musical sphere I
feel the greatest affinity with, it's the one that provokes
the greatest physical and emotional response in me - but
there are so many other styles of music I listen to. From
techno to disco to dub to reggae to folk, new wave, jazz,
punk and so on... Anything goes. I try to ignore genres as
boundaries and just go with what affects me. That's just me
though. It's all a question of personal taste.
I would say, though, that if I confined my listening to one
area of music I worry that I wouldn't appreciate it as much
as I ought to.


 

offline staz on 2005-08-23 12:56 [#01704461]
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There was hardly any "experimental" jungle stuff around like
that at the time. Just think of the opportunities of that
time versus now. Technology was emerging.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 13:01 [#01704465]
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Re:There was hardly any "experimental" jungle stuff around
like
that at the time.

In 95/96, when Aphex and Mu-ziq where first bringing out all
that "drill and bass" stuff it was fucking fresh. Now it's
just another cliche. I feel like people like Venetian Snares
are just flogging a ten year old dead horse.


 

offline swears from junk sleep on 2005-08-23 15:19 [#01704617]
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