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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:02 [#01700824]
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Ok, I figure there are enough web savy heads on here, someone might have suggestion....
I am designing a site for this woman and need to convert a 7+ page C.V. to HTML, in order to fit into my CSS architecture of the site. I'm also going to need to do the same thing for her syllabi and courses list, etc. I know Word exports to HTML, but it is typically UGLY as sin, dense code, and nearly impossible to implement into CSS to make the fonts correlate with the rest of the text in the site.
Does anyone know of anything out there that converts text, a Word .doc, or a Copy&Paste, into HTML - keeping the tabs and spaces, fonts and font sizes intact, translating them to the necessary HTML?
When I hand over the reigns to her site, she is going to need a simple solution to update. Throwing hard breaks and counting lines between divs seems like too much of a bitch for both her and I.
Thanks in advance,
gl0tch
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 20:05 [#01700825]
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WHY DONT YOU MAKE A THREAD ABOUT IT
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:08 [#01700826]
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I did. Thanks.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-08-19 20:11 [#01700830]
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have you tried Word's Save As... HTML option ?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:15 [#01700832]
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Thank you for responding! But as I mentioned in the intial post:
"I know Word exports to HTML, but it is typically UGLY as sin, dense code, and nearly impossible to implement into CSS to make the fonts correlate with the rest of the text in the site."
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-08-19 20:19 [#01700836]
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copy paste
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:34 [#01700843]
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That doesn't work, because tabs and spaces need to be translated into non-breaking spaces ( ). Also, that wouldnt leave the font data intact either.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 20:37 [#01700845]
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ALT + F4
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DaggerHappy
from Australia on 2005-08-19 20:42 [#01700846]
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try importing the .doc into something like publisher and saving it as a .jpg then just have the .jpg on a .html
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:43 [#01700847]
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que?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 20:44 [#01700849]
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you mean have the text file as an image of the textfile? It's 7 pages long. Also, that wouldnt implement it into the CSS architecture.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 20:53 [#01700850]
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oh just fucking shut up will you?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-08-19 20:57 [#01700852]
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why don't you just fucking shut up for once.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 21:03 [#01700855]
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Seriously dude, grow up. You're riding the same lame and humor-lacking joke for 5 months now. You're counter productive and represent ever valid claim by WATMM as to why this board fucking blows.
I, for one, choose to ignore those claims as much as possible, but with the shit you constantly pull, it becomes increasingly difficult.
Typically, I think banning people is lame, but if the moderators took the time to see how often you pull this shit in every god damn thread I post in, I think your shit would be curbed for a few weeks. And rightfully so!
You lack class and are an embarrassment to this board.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 21:08 [#01700857]
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i don't really care to be honest.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 21:09 [#01700858]
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That's because you are a child.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 21:13 [#01700859]
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you just don't get it do you?
i'll stop antagonising when you stop biting.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 21:16 [#01700863]
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Fuck you. I minded my business a long time ago asshole. I post and you still pull this shit. I fucking "get it" and you still don't quit. Why? Seriously? You're fucking up this board.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 21:18 [#01700865]
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in another life we might've been brothers. oh well.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 21:21 [#01700866]
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Dude, seriously, please don't post in my threads. You're like that haggard little bitch in Fight Club who has to show up at all the fucking help groups E.Norton is in, just to piss him off. Please. You take your threads and I will take mine. Let's just pretend the other doesnt exist.
I'm not trying to ruin your experience here.
SO FUCK OFF.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-08-19 21:24 [#01700869]
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i am rubber. you are glue.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-19 21:26 [#01700870]
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You're a rubber? LOL, somehow that seems fitting. An english dickmitten. Yowzah.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-08-20 03:41 [#01701012]
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sorry gl0tch, I admit that I didn't read the entire post :]
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-20 11:44 [#01701303]
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it's all good.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 11:52 [#01701310]
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I seem to remember something about a php function that reads .doc and outputs them, but I'd have to read up on it to tell you, and I don't think I have the time...
you could also use XML, but I don't know syntax for those xml-styles, so you'd have to figure that out for yourself...
but.. do you want something that looks exactly like the document, or is the document designed or something?
if you just want a document, all you need is a css-stylesheet, divs, paragraphs and spans.. also remember all the selectors and pseudo-elements of the css to make effective code.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 11:56 [#01701315]
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7 pages is far too long for a CV anyway, but you should know that CSS means you separate design from content, meaning you can paste your word doc into the body of the html and add your tags where necessary..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 11:59 [#01701321]
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that is, add your css tags where necessary in the word text ( etc.) and if you already have a css file link it to that to pick up the formatting.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 12:02 [#01701322]
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oh and if you have separated design from content appropriately then all you will both ever need to update is the html text - not the css file (unless you wanna change the formatting) sorry to go on... try useit.com or w3c.org - may be more help?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-20 12:49 [#01701354]
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Thanks for the help. It's 7 pages b/c she's, well...., "established" sorta.
The whole point is that she is going to be updating this herself and we need to avoid her manually adding tags, while maintaining the overall look of the css structure. Ultimately a "drag & drop" approach would be most desirable, though with the CV we're dealing with 2 columns here; year and respective content, and need to translate the margin between the two (which is just tabbed in Word) into HTML so it appears the same way.
Does that make sense? sorry if confusing.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-20 12:54 [#01701360]
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but.. do you want something that looks exactly like the document, or is the document designed or something?
if you just want a document, all you need is a css-stylesheet, divs, paragraphs and spans.. also remember all the selectors and pseudo-elements of the css to make effective code.
Essentially, I want the HTML version to look like the 2 column, tabbed and margined Word version, with the years on the left and the content for each respective year justified on the right. So yeah, I guess its designed and would like a way to have that design translated into HTML without having to manually add all those tags and non-breaking spaces and hard breaks, etc.
In any case, thank you for your reply!!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 12:55 [#01701362]
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isn't it possible to create "macros" for how word "translates" to html? if you make her always use the formatting drop-down menu in word (the one that says "header" and "normal text" or whatever) and not custom font-sizes and faces in word and then export using that macro which you modify so that it fits your stylesheet and then use php includes on the site.. I think I'm saying this in a more complicated way than I need to, but I hope you catch my drift...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 12:57 [#01701365]
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for tabs, you would probably do better with margin-left than nbsps, btw...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 13:19 [#01701398]
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if you have dreamweaver or another web page creation software then im certain the quickest and simplest way will be to simply copy and paste into the of a new page.. keep the word document open in another window so you can refer to the desired formatting.
if this is just for people to go and check her cv online then compliance isnt a major issue, in which case i would suggest what is known as a hybrid layout - combining a simple borderless 2-column table in html containg the tags where you will paste the content from word...
you may want to give the table a set width and height to maintain your indent, say about 600px wide. so then in html column one you will have insert spiel (and same for column 2) and in your css you will have something like:
.p { margin-left: 50px; and all your font styling and size etc here too )
now she will only ever have to edit the html bit where 'insert spiel' is. is that any use for you? not very detailed im sorry. you can also then do the same to format say, your headings = .h1 = .h2 and so on, which may be useful for dates, past job titles etc..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 13:24 [#01701411]
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anything i have posted in arrow brackets has dissapeared!!! makes this tricky to explain! imagine these brackets are the arrow ones;
so column 1 html = [p]insert spiel[/p] (css = .p) and the examples for headers are [h1]heading 1[/h1] (css = .h1)
hope this somehow makes sense... the point is you can emulate your word doc (with much more flexibility and style imo) and she only needs to edit the html, not the css.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 13:25 [#01701414]
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editing would be even easier if she just had plain text files to edit, and these were auto-included (php includes work perfectly!) into the layout.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 13:26 [#01701418]
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fuck me - hybrid layout means to combine a table with css for layout purposes. (tables are supposed to contain data).
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-20 13:28 [#01701420]
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i know nothing really about php, but imo, a html file is pretty much a plain text file.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 13:37 [#01701430]
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well, a html file has got lots of tags and stuff.. if she doesn't know what she's doing, it's better to exclude the tags and have her edit content only.
you should find out about includes. they're really useful, and a better alternative to frames and iframes (if you need scrollers and stuff, use includes inside divs with overflow:auto;). Basically, includes makes it possible to build a dynamic site using "modules" where you only include the necessary modules when they are necessary and leave them out when you don't need them. It also makes it easier to keep track of your code, as you have one file to each "function" or "section."
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-08-20 14:04 [#01701466]
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Yeah, I know nothing about php either, but hear thats the way to go with creating more dynamic sites ala comments for blogs, etc.
By the way, I'm doing the site in a text editor, but have Dreamweaver and could try to figure out something there. I just dont want to waste time "learning" DW, while progress halts on the site.
Hey, check this out: Txt2Html
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-20 14:09 [#01701470]
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includes are really easy.. you don't need to know any php to use them...
all you need is php installed on the server and they should work.
[left bracket]?php include("url"); ?[right bracket]
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