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offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-07-28 14:38 [#01677812]
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It's probably one of the best standalone software mastering
gear out there.

"T-RackS 24 includes: a state-of-the-art EQ, a classic
tube modeled compressor, a multi band master limiter, a
soft-clipping stage and a complete mastering suite
containing all the plugs in one efficient, "gold sounding"
mastering plug-in built with actual physical models of tube
circuitry. With its separate processors, astonishing warmth
and ease-of-use, you'll be putting a polish on your tracks
you may have never thought possible. All this, while adding
the beautiful warmth and space of the tube devices it
emulates. No other plug-in offers this kind of dedicated
environment for such an important task and none sounds like
T-RackS"


Price: $239.00 (cheapest I could find)




I used the trial version and what they say about this piece
of software is totally truth. I'd really like to buy it...
but $239.- for a piece of software is a bit too much imo.

Does someone know a cheaper place for this program?
Or a mastering tool (standalone) like this?


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offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-28 14:46 [#01677817]
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Heard some very enthousiastic people about this one:
iZotope Ozone

Planning to buy this myself... but also in doubt because of
the $250 price tag...


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-28 14:54 [#01677824]
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such bullshit. Do you really know how to use it? You
shoudn't master your own tracks. Atleast get the final bit
on something real like tape or some other proper analogue
hardware.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-07-28 14:55 [#01677825]
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Waves diamond bundle.mm phase eq and L2 mmm


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-07-28 14:55 [#01677826]
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not standalone. irrelevant


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-07-28 15:04 [#01677835]
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truth = true.

bogala: I mastered a mix I did and it's worth it.
I mastered the same mix at a friends house who has a lot of
analogue hardware and this one is way better.



 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-28 15:09 [#01677839]
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I've been also busy mastering a cover of Metallica's
Nothing Else Matters, recorded with Sonar Home
Studio... If you know a little bit of the underlying theory
about compression/limiting/expanding/EQ-ing the results are
quite nice!


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-28 16:10 [#01677926]
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true! those things can really fuck your track up if you
don't use them correctly.


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-28 16:19 [#01677934]
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It really helps me to have a spectrum analyzer which shows
you the actual signals/frequencies


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-28 16:41 [#01677942]
Points: 12585 Status: Lurker



I always write my songs with a spectral analyzer going on in
the background. But T-rackS is very nice. Wanna split the
cost Aesthetics?


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-07-28 17:32 [#01677978]
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the cost of the internet? BA-ZING!


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-29 10:56 [#01678532]
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boioioioioing


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-07-29 11:20 [#01678547]
Points: 4442 Status: Regular



T racks is good for introduction to mastering. But really
what is blowing your mind is just that the whole song is
louder thats all. After a year you will realize how much it
isn`t that great and you will figure out other ways to
master ... the RIGHT WAYS hehehe.

T racks eats dynamics up so bad...

bye bye cymbals! hello reverb that sounds like one gigantic
hiss! Oh, synthline that takes up all my mix, how are you
doing today ? Where did bassdrum go? I could have sworn he
was here ...



 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-07-29 11:48 [#01678595]
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My cousin is a sound engineer, and sent me a cd full of
programs a few years ago. T-rackS was on it, and is pants.
It alright as an effect to use on a bass or drums or
somehting, but for mastering a track its a no no. even the M
Class stuff in reason is better than T-rackS!
Just get a TL audio 5060, a mono valve compressor and you
will tell the difference! This thing is fairly cheap and
worth it. you will realise that for nearly the same price as
T-rackS you have something worth having!


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2005-07-29 12:08 [#01678618]
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it's ugly
why oh why the music software is so ugly?


 

offline obara from Utrecht on 2005-07-29 13:33 [#01678664]
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yummy !


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-29 13:36 [#01678668]
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haha ok then I'll stick to doing all my mastering the manual
way :)


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-07-29 13:41 [#01678669]
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Well it`s not that it`s bad or anything, just it`s just a
quick fix, sweeps the dirt un the rug yeah know?

Loud and Clear, thats mastering. What ever you do to make it
loud and clear is the good way to master.


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-07-29 13:55 [#01678681]
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Thanks for all the feedback, I shall look out for TL audio
5060.

"even the M Class stuff in reason" is it possible to
import wave files into Reason?




weatheredstoner: No, even half the amount would be a waste
of money;)


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-29 14:02 [#01678689]
Points: 1362 Status: Regular



Just a little question? Don't you guys like this T-rackS
software package, of mastering software in general?!? It's
not completely clear to me why the hardware solution is any
better? But some things spring into mind:

- Because of software latency? But latency is no issue in
the mastering step
- Because of limited digital resolution? (no analog headroom
above 0dB [unity gain]) Does this really matter when the
product you're busy with is a CD, which is a 16-bit digital
medium
- Lack of tubes? Don't you think software can model
non-linear responses without any problems?
- Lack of knobs to play with?

Please, enlighten me!


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-29 14:04 [#01678691]
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of = or


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2005-07-29 14:05 [#01678692]
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since i'm shifting to a total hardware setup i'm gonna have
to get used to hardware compression and mastering

but for the time being i'm gonna have to make tracks the
old-school way. 4 track tape deck


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-29 14:26 [#01678702]
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Can't help ya. I do all my mastering with software on my
computer and play it by ear. It's a tiring process but its
worth it when I get it sounding lush.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-29 14:45 [#01678719]
Points: 8472 Status: Regular | Followup to dave_g: #01678595



mastering with a mono compressor?... sure about that? :)

at college one of the members of my production group has got
the t-racks mastering software and everything comes out
sounding a bit flat, but then again he is a bit of a
preset-nut.

with any production equipment (hardware or software) you
have to find the right ones that suit your methods, as
everyone goes about things differently, and use different
pieces of equipment differently.

for mastering i'm using just 2 plugins (all software of
course), a multi-band compressor and a limiter. anything
that can't be 'solved' by these, i must solve within the
mixing stage - rather than the mastering stage.

i was using a spectral analyser for a time but my eyes did
not agree with my ears, so i stopped using that. I've still
yet to be 100% happy with my mastering technique.


 

offline Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2005-07-29 15:04 [#01678747]
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yeah.... you better start looking for TWO of those
5060 babies :D


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-08-05 08:21 [#01684461]
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just master left channel then right channel, or do it as
mono, or ok you get a stereo one, 5060 isn't really for
mastering, but its about the same price as T-rackS and a lot
better,and has presets,so that people can pick it up and
use it without trying to figure out compression and
stuff...
lets face it fx like reverb and distortion are easy to use
because you can hear them, but compression is less easily
heard because it is best used subtly.

you can master stuff entirely on computers, but even a lot
of professional places still use outboard gear, computers
are too fidly with mouse, etc tapes and compressors are more
hands on and i think are better for humans to interface with
and react to when using so you get better results.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-08-05 13:13 [#01684883]
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If you look at the website for the 5060, they don't have a
mono version available, just a stereo one.

Its a lot more than tracks tho


 

offline dave_g from United Kingdom on 2005-08-05 13:32 [#01684891]
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er ok maybe I got the numbers wrong. I dunno, my point is
that T-rackS is a pile of poo and hardware is better cos you
can show off your little mini rack of gear to your mates and
it looks better than a laptop and a 2octave midi controller
:D


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2005-08-05 16:14 [#01685022]
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T-Racks did impress me at first with its rock solid
brick-wall limiting... But after a day or two with it, you
start to realise it suffers from severe digititus... So
everything you run thru it starts to sound a bit like it's
been tarred with the same brush.

The EQ is exactly what you don't want for mastering too -
Very low on the presense - You need 7, 9, 12+ db gain's!
Absolutely insane - Ideal mastering EQ would be something
more like the massive passive, where you won't need more
than 1/2 a db to get the tone you're looking for...

Waves Q-Clone is the best software alternative I've found
yet.

Software is quite alright for subtle digital limiting -
Waves L2, etc... But generally horrible for mix
compression... Almost always better without.

Don't master your own music - Any tonal or dynamics changes
you hear should've been taken care of in mixing really...
Mix compression can be used as an effect, but don't confuse
it with mastering...


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-08-06 01:44 [#01685415]
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Yeah. I like hardware more too, nowadays. Software is a lot
easier, but it doesn't feel right, and I can't say anything
beyond that. Altho having to go somewhere just to fix your
synthesizer or sampler, instead of just finding a different
crack and reinstalling it is kind of annoying :/


 


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