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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 10:37 [#01665197]
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yeah, been working on a track called "our hero has fallen", it's a sort of a "story telling track" with fairly video gamish "hero beats the dragon" style melodies, most of the melodies in the track are made out of jazz guittar, trumbone and myself "moaning" but it's not jazzy or anything like that.
There's allot of drums in the track too, not as upfront as I usually do but still pretty detailed programming with allot of recorded "metal bangs", hits with "sticks" etc, works pretty well with the theme of the track I guess/hope.
The "story telling" part of the track is the hardest bit to get right, it's hard to make it sound "not-gay"... So I might need to re-recorded bit's of it, use different fx on the voice etc, perhaps even skip it totally ? Im in need of other peoples opinions here so feel free to help me out.
The track can be found heeere at my zebox and the full title is Our hero has fallen (Heroic version)
Haha, good day
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-16 10:53 [#01665202]
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if you wanna do this kind of story telling. you'd better go completly over the top with it. push it even further. I dig it.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-16 10:53 [#01665203]
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think bogdan
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-16 10:55 [#01665204]
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funny track! nice drums, but the melody, which is good in itself, could be better if played on better instruments... sometimes it sounds too pitched and "wrong."
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 10:57 [#01665208]
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who is bogdan ?
push it further you say.. ahmm, you mean like exagerate the tone of the voice more ? making it sound even more childish ? more like a kids tale or something ?. I dont have much room left in the track to expand the different phrases, I dont want to throw the whole rearangement around just to fit more voice in there as im quite happy with the layout and lenth of the track.
hmm hmm who did you say bogdan was ?
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 10:58 [#01665211]
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yeah, it's a jazz note from the guittar being bended, I then pitched it down an whole octave, I know that that stuff sounds weird but i really like it =D
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-16 11:00 [#01665212]
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yeah, some of the notes sound good, but there are others where you can almost hear that everything is pitched.. like you hear the background noise/hum being pitched.. the noise/hum isn't audible really, but it's just.. something one picks up.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-07-16 11:01 [#01665213]
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are you telling me you don't know bogdan raczynski? check some stuff of him. he uses his silly voice over drill type of drums and stuff.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 11:04 [#01665215]
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ow! either I have forgotten about some noise being pitched.. or I dont have the ears to hear it.. it was a while ago since i finished this version of the track.. have not focused much on mixing it etc, im probably gonna add/remove allot of details, do some fine EQ on pretty much everything and so, so hopefully i can eliminate some problems.
Can you give me an exampe of where you hear that noise being pitched ? i would like to hear it so i can change it
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-16 11:12 [#01665218]
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well, it's not noise per se.. it's.. harmonics maybe... when you strike a string on a guitar, there isn't only one tone being played (on pianos, for instance, each tone is produced by a hammer hitting three strings...) there are also several other sounds being produced, like resonance from the guitar-case and harmonics and resonance from the other strings that also vibrate. This makes it rather easy to hear when something is pitched as these extra sounds for some reason always sound weird when not pitched to some special pitches.. what these pitches are varies from source to source... I'm about to start ranting so I'll stop there and hope you get what I mean...
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 11:13 [#01665219]
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ive heard the name, but I never heard his stuff... Ill check it out. Bogdan raczynski is his artist name right ?
ive heard people saying that my music reminds them of bogdans, why have i not checked him out before ?.. could be fun to see how fucking off people can be haha =D
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 11:20 [#01665224]
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haha, I understand, I thought you mean "noise" like recorded whitenoise or similar.. but luckely that wasnt the case!
I can hopefully eliminate all things sounding weird (in a bad weird way) when I dig into the mixing part of it all.... Im trying to force myself not to mix too much at the earlyer states of a track these days as it totally kills my creativity
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-07-16 14:24 [#01665385]
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i think this is great. it's very quirky and weird. i can't remember hearing anything quite like this before - it's very enjoyable. i definitely think you should make more tracks like this. great idea.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 14:28 [#01665388]
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sweet monn! thanks for listening as always. yeah, im happy with the overall feel of this track, not as heavy as our usuall tracks. Wich can be a good thing, from time to time id say
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-07-16 14:29 [#01665389]
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i really like the bit with the sword sound effects. it would be cool to design the sounds more with the words like that. sound effects as part of the music.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 14:40 [#01665390]
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yeah, that was my thought.. those sound fx are actually made out of two garden tools being drawded against each other haha.. not really SWORDS =D
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2005-07-16 15:49 [#01665430]
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GREAT thing to log on and see !!! keep up the good work, gents !!!
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-16 16:21 [#01665457]
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hey good to see you, tell virginpusher to stop working. His creativity is slowly dying.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-17 05:08 [#01665738]
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this is really great but you can hear some of the instruments pitched which makes them sound very cheesy. If I were you I'd do the voice really low. Like movie trailer style lowness. I would also bring the beats more foward as they currently sound a bit low pass. This has great potential but there is room for tweaking. Do keep at it, I'd love to hear the final outcome.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-19 07:27 [#01667971]
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Hmm, I cant see the problem with the synths and recorded sounds at all really, Im happy with the tones, it sets the right emotion for the "hero" theme of the track in my opinion.. About the beats.. Ive been having trouble mixing the beats lately, Im never satisfied at all, if I have too much high it sticks my ears and if I remove it things loses the feel, Im actually considering to mix in my old headphones becouse they dont have as much high as the newer akg I use.
Besides that, Im happy with the level of the breaks, I want them to be fairly low, im tired of "punch in the face snares" I want to leave just as much room for the music.
Im not sure what you mean by "tweaking" either, im sure it needs more/better mixing, but if you mean tweaking like "messing up the beats" then I have to say that in my opinion it doesnt need much more of that, the track is not to be too extreme, it's suppose to be one of the more calmer easy listened tracks on me and lucidikahs new thing. The biggest problem in my opinion right now with the track is choosing how the speech should sound, what pitch, tone, pan etc.. and another problem is getting the bass at the later part to sound less muddy, it's a really muddy wav sample so the mixing ive done on it allready have improved it allot but im still not quite happy with it.
Wow, now im babbling. I need a break from making music for about two days... I get pissed of when the mixes doesnt turn out the way I want them to... And this track is probably one of my easyest mixed tracks im working on right now... got another 10min long tune that is pure hell to mix, doesnt matter what I do as I cant get the breaks to work at all in that track. Blah
good day =D and thanks for listening
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-19 09:00 [#01668088]
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ooo i'll have to listen to this when I get home.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-19 09:20 [#01668115]
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Guess who got fired from his job!
:/
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-19 09:27 [#01668127]
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WHAT!?
I cant tell you how sorry and happy I am
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-07-19 09:28 [#01668130]
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that sounded bad...
Are you kidding me ? got fired for what ? that sucks to be honest.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-19 09:42 [#01668140]
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hahaha! Classic!
One whole pallet fell off my truck and someone called it in before i could turn around to get it. The boss was real real pissed. No damages or injuries. Just a pallet in the road.
That just may open some times for music making some more but right now i am focused on my bills and collecting unemployment.
Good to see you though! :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-19 10:02 [#01668159]
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whoah! that's really sucky!
"why do bad things happen to good people?"
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-19 12:40 [#01668483]
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Yeah it puts me in a difficult situation. I am really banking on financial aid. Just so i can keep paying bills while looking for more work
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Jocco
from Banned! Free Jocco! (United States) on 2005-07-19 13:03 [#01668530]
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Will listen to this eventually... keep bumping the topic... enjoyed your album... That is all.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-19 13:10 [#01668536]
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I am currently listening to this.
What i think we are going to need to do is email each other because i have some ideas pertaining to what we have and what we dont.
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