 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (1)big ...and 586 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2614121 Today 4 Topics 127542 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i dont have a good ear for detecting time signatures, but lately ive noticed that pretty much every ae track are 4/4. at first, i had the impression that most of untilted was in odd time signatures, but i think otherwise now. is that so? please name some ae tracks that arent 4/4. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
im sure there are many un-4/4 ae tracks, i just cant find one off the top of my haed. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
alright, thanks! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
NOT AE but bola - soup forcasa 2 - 3/4 forcasa 3 - 3/4 amnion - 3/4 then get's taken over by 4/4 aguilla - 7/4 (nicely done) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
NOT AE but |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
damn you qrter! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
sorry |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
that's quite a headstand you're doing |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
can't speak long need energy |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
How do you detect a TIME SIGNATURE? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
hahahaha |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
The opening of Pro Radii is in 7/4 I believe. And, Cichli is in 5/4. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Actually, autechre do a lot of work with more experimental time signature fuckery and such. One example that I know of is called clockshifting. Where they take a section of the song, remove one note, but keep it fluid, so for one bar, the beat or bassline might be 3/4 but carries on 4/4 after that, so throughout the song, the beat would be one bar ahead of the rest of the composition. Of course, they do this so frequently, the beat never stays at that point, and the other elements are doing the same, so in effect they are all moving around eachother in a seemingly chaotic, but organized fashion. Trying to do this and make it sound proper (ie: not noticable) is next to impossible for someone with my skill in programming. The fact that a lot of people don't pick up on it right away is what indicates their skill in programming. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I think they call that out of phase, in compositional terms (not same as the effect) a technique used by a lot of minimalist artists. (Steve Reich and the GRM massive yo) Like you said it shifts the timing forward or backwards, creating a completely different and ever changing perspective on the sounds. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Hmm. Are you talking about removing the bar from a section of the piece or the whole thing? As far as computer production is concerned, I know it as being called clockshifting because of the use of midi. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i just HAD to look at this thread since the title was in ALL CAPS. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I'd like to know the time sig of tangle ill |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Yeah Im talking about removing a bar, or whatever timeframe you want really..I will look into this clockshifting thing, sounds like fun :) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Autechre has plenty of irregular time sigs. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
copy+pasted from other thread for quick reference cichli- 5/4 drane- 10/4 characi- 9/4 777- 7/4 acroyear2- 4/4, 5/4, and 15/8 all at once (apparantly) Blifil- 8/4 then it alternates between 9/4 and 8/4 then finally stays at 6/4. CapIV- 6/4 3/4 laughing quarter- 2/4 |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
no they don't. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
quick! internet fight! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
ok, maybe I should have replaced "has plenty of" with "occasionaly do", but the fact is they still have demonstrated a use of irreg. time sigs. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
drunken knowitall |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I'm pretty good at spoting time signatures(I've got VSnares pegged) but one AE track is a mystery to me: Left Blank from EP7. I can follow the rythm with no problem but I have no way of nailing down the TS due to it's odd structure. Damn good track. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
They Hit the Random button |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
what is the time signature in nafwa4 ? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
random |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
they are clever with using oddly accented beats to impressionist assymetrical time. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
what are time sigs? how can you calculate them |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Left Blank drifts. The first few measures are in 10/4 then it moves to a weirdly gapped 4/4 then I was too lazy to follow it from there. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
you count. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
you know it baby! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
More specifically, you count at the pace of the tempo and stop when a fimilar melodic or rythmic phrase repeats. The number you get the numerator of the time signature. The denominator represents the lengh of each beat counted. 1= whole note, 2 = half, 4 = quarter and so on. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
insert 'is' between 'get' and 'the' |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
can you give us a list of some vs time sigs? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
What album? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
non 4/4 time signatures are so over-rated - I don't understand why there are many people who crack a boner everytime they hear a song jammed into a different time signature. If you want wild you want poly-time signatures battling against poly-key signatures retroverted. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i think that it is important to understand that it's not a matter of a "time signature" when it comes to autechre... i think you should hear it in a different sense, like listening to the start of phrases... a rhythmic statement made by the two we call, Autechre, should be looked at how many times this happens in one minute or BPMs... i think it's all about bpm's to ae b/c you can use a set parameter of how you are going to go about slicing beats up... in essence it is all about the ups and down beats that happen in one minute or a nano-second when we're talking about these guys time signature just sounds weird... their definitely not a "thump thump thump thump" group that does that sort of shit on their album |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
songs about my cats |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
7/7 |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
That's a hard one. Stay tuned. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
THEY ARE TOO COMPLEX! DO NOT TRY TO LEARN OF THEM?! IT IS WRONG! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE MACHINE! |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
