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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-24 11:52 [#01643173]
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I got my first windows XP PC a while ago, and around 3 months in the damn thing would randomly restart, no matter what I was doing, at random points. I thought it was just that one computer, but I've now seen machines at colledge do it, and my laptop, and another computer. None of them were old or faulty.
What is this strange, annoying phenomina? There's nothing fucking worse then working on a track, and having a random restart corrupt the file-loosing hours and hours of work on the music. :-/
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-06-24 11:54 [#01643175]
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Sounds like they are crashing without doing the ol "blue screen of death"
Never had this 'random restart' problem so I cant really help out too much.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-24 11:59 [#01643179]
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obvious things would be running anti-virus and spyware detection thingies.
otherwise a google search yielded these results: 1 2 3
and many more.
lazy_search
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xceque
on 2005-06-24 12:02 [#01643182]
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check control panel > administrative tools > computer management > event viewer
and look under Application and System for errors and see if it indicates any app or drivers that are failing just before the restart.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-24 12:02 [#01643183]
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Ah, thank you.
The only reason I meantioned it here was because it's occured on so many machines I have used (and other people's computers.) I thought it might be something up with the platform.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-24 12:06 [#01643184]
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you're welcome.. and I would try what xceque said, as that is what is suggested in link #2
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-06-24 12:06 [#01643185]
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do you have:
[ ] randomly reboot without warning
checked in system prefs? i think it's on by default in XP.
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big
from lsg on 2005-06-24 12:15 [#01643188]
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i think it's a bad computer and windows install, ive had it too, could be bad powersupply as well
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big
from lsg on 2005-06-24 12:17 [#01643190]
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and/or windows install i meant, and/or everything else too btw
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-24 13:43 [#01643231]
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thanks for all the suggestions.
It's a love hate with computers. Always has been, and I think it always will be.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-24 14:50 [#01643303]
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I used to have that problem before I upgraded my ram. i thought it might have been a virus or a hacker or something, but after doing thoughrow scans and virus checks I determined it wasn't either. I don't know why or how it happened, but the ram fixed it.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-24 16:00 [#01643336]
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Normally it is either down to poorly written programs or virus' that begin attempting to access an area of memory the shouldn't, windows will shut down to protect itself or a hardware issue such as overheating or fault RAM/processor. In either case I don't care.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-24 16:07 [#01643339]
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That's odd, actually. I had less problems when I had 512 megs of RAM. I got 1024, and Half Life2 started crashing with "memory read errors" and the restarts intensified in how often they occured.
The other PCs which enjoyed restarting and destroying music files have always had 512 to 716 (or whatever the exact number is) RAM.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-24 16:14 [#01643342]
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try opening it and see if the ram is properly attached...
while you're in there, get the names and specs and whatever of your ram.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-06-25 01:59 [#01643509]
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the hardware extraction layer has had that problem stopped since windows 2k (the memory overwrite thing) it reaches the os before it reaches the hardware and windows closes it down, (it's also the reason that all of the old dos and 95-98 era applications have trouble working)
or at least it's SUPPOSED to...
I've found the most common problem is a power supply not powerful enough, that's just from my experiences though...
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-06-25 02:09 [#01643511]
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that's quite funny actually, i can't believe no-one replied a "LOL" to that
here's one: LOL :)
and a pic, since i can
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-25 03:43 [#01643528]
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Thanks, I think it must be the power supply. That, or overheating.
I've tried everything else. Never had these problems with windows 98 strangely enough, and I was a lot more daring with my old PCS (fucking about with the inside components a lot more.)
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Marshmelo
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-25 06:37 [#01643575]
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It's a longshot, but have you made sure the drivers are up to date on all your hardware, especially your sound card?
I have a Creative Audigy Player 5.1 card and if I install the drivers supplied with the CD then the PC will reboot randomly, or if I play a song in Winamp - however if I update the drivers the PC is ok! :)
I think however, that if this is happening on your computers in college and what have you, then it would be something else?
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2005-06-25 09:30 [#01643678]
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i have that problem every few months or so. it's because a mountain of dust gets all up in my heatsink. so i'll pull it all apart, blow it out, and it works fine again. should probably give that a go. just to see. i blame the culprit to be overheating.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-25 10:00 [#01643700]
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your fans may not be up to speed if they are clogged up with dust. clean the inside of your computer with a hand held hoover, make sure it's switched off first though. DON'T use a normal vacuum cleaner, only a rechargable one.
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inkey
from urgato (United States) on 2005-06-25 10:26 [#01643706]
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i had the same thing happen to me right after i installed ram...just switch it around so the largest is in the first slot...that fixed it right up.
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OK
on 2005-06-25 22:52 [#01644100]
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you have a bad memory chip
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boobah
from pants on 2005-06-25 23:07 [#01644107]
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try doing a windows update
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ka
on 2005-06-25 23:35 [#01644111]
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This forum probably isn't the most direct way to solving your problem. Try googling some of the model numbers for the gear you have, primarily the motherboard, and some of the symtoms. See if there is a BIOS update or other drivers you need to update. Also, there's probably an option somewhere in your BIOS which is set to "restart on crash" or something. You can disable that and might get more detailed error messages from Windows when the crashes happen again.
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