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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-06-23 08:57 [#01641735]
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I'm sure everyone is familiar with the blurby bass sounds used in many AFX/Aphex Twin tracks such as On, Xepha, and several of the songs featured on I Care Becuase you Do. Now I have become infatuated with this flatulant-like sound and was wondering how to make something similar. For example, what VST's, waveforms, effects, editing should be used/done to craft with. Thank you for all your help thus far. I hope I wont be let down by my ever vigilant XLTRONIC community.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 09:05 [#01641742]
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you've become.... inflatulanted
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-23 09:07 [#01641746]
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I'm not sure.. I have that type sound as a preset on my (digital) synth. I could check the components for you if I find it, though...
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 09:09 [#01641747]
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about your question, there is plenty of gear out there that can create comparable sounds to the ones used in the songs you mentioned. It's all about finding out which gear suits your purposes best, so you aren't spending lots of money just to get 1 bass sound. Personally, if I were you, I would demo some hardware at music stores and download some software demos and that sort of thing, because I think you might find that you can create very cool bass sounds on your own, and then you wont be stuck in the rut of just emulating everything that richard does.
hope this helps, and doesn't sound condescending (because it wasn't ment to be). :)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-23 09:09 [#01641748]
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erh.. I'm not sure if its the sound you're talking about, but this one seems to be two different types of saw-waves...
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-06-23 09:11 [#01641752]
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do i just tone in down real low or something? i was thinking i should take it into audacity and slow it down to get that (undescribable-rumbling?) sound
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 09:13 [#01641755]
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hehe, the reason I didn't want to tell him "two types of saw waves" etc, is because even if you tell him the waveforms being used, there is still so much influencing what you actually hear. For example, if you tell him what waveforms are used, he also needs to know the envelope (ADSR) settings, the LFO settings (some synths have 1 LFO, some have any number greater than that), what kind of filter is being used and what the settings on that are... its an involved process.
The bottom line is that every synth does it's thing a little bit differently, and the addition of another LFO or oscillator can impact the sound in a big way... which is why my advice to swift_jams is to try out gear and find your own way... I think it's far more rewarding in the long run anyway. :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 09:14 [#01641756]
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well im off to the airport to pick up my friend, goodluck with your problem, and I'll try to help in any way I can when I get back.
hope you find the sound your looking for. :]
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-23 09:37 [#01641771]
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yeah, experimenting is better.
except for piano sounds and stuff that's supposed to sound "real," I haven't used any of the presets on my synth (roland xp-30). All custom.
of course, since it's digital, it hasn't actually got oscillators, it just has small loops and bits and pieces that are pieced together. I may be borrowing an analogue synth in a while, but I'm not sure if I can.
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swift_jams
from big sky on 2005-06-23 11:34 [#01641938]
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totally not fair i wich i had any synth at all. particularly a modular or analogue. i dont like the newer ones too much, with their buttons and no knobs.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 13:25 [#01642099]
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yeah, steer clear of any keyboard where the editing of sounds has to be done via menus with lots of bottons... while some of them can produce good sounds, the extra effort of having to go through 30 menus just to change the filter cutoff will really deter you, and often times, by the time you find what you are looking for, you may have lost the creative spark. The best kinds of synths (for live tweaking and fast sound creation) are ones with lots of knobs on them, that allow you to bypass all the menu bollocks and just tweak away till you have the sound you are looking for.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-23 13:31 [#01642113]
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also, the bigger the screen/higher the resolution, the better.
it's pretty frustrating only having a tiny screen where everything is super-abbreviated to make it fit, though there are some exeptions.
for example, the roland Jp-8000 synth has all its editing functions laid out in knob/slider format so, even though the screen is tiny, you barely need it for anything, anyway. Like I said, the best way to avoid disappointment when buying a synth is to go into music stores and try them all out hands on. Then you can go online if you wish and try ebay and other places for lower than retail prices. You could always just read lots of reviews for a product and listen to sound demos if you can find them rather than playing the synths to try to find which one you like best, but that can be sort of iffy, and theres nothing like playing the real thing.
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