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offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 18:35 [#01635032]
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do it, im planning to get one sometime very soon and im
planning to spend about 700 dollars on it.

Im on an p4 laptop (only 4pin firewire but plenty of
usb2...)

here's two cards ive been looking allot at firewire1814
and ua 101

Ive been too busy trying to figure out what audiocard I
really want and need lately and now I feel a bit tired, I
thought perhaps xltronic could wake me up a bit.

Just throw me any thoughts you have, recommendations and
all, im tired of doing all the thinking myself for the
moment =D!


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 18:37 [#01635036]
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yeah the firewire is great


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-06-16 18:38 [#01635039]
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You got your laptop!? Awesome!!!


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2005-06-16 18:39 [#01635043]
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do you really need 18in/14out ?

u have drums or something?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 18:40 [#01635047]
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I think firewire is still recommended for music even though
usb2 is as fast or faster or whatever... don't know why,
though.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2005-06-16 18:41 [#01635051]
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i want this babyi want this


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 18:43 [#01635054]
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Yes i got it! and to my suprise it actually works very well!
=D it just needs an audiocard damn bad, it
s awfull right now.

But ive been been really busy lately with transfering old
projects and so from my old computer, i got an external
200gb disk for the music making part of it, so im soon ready
to rock again =D!
Ow yeah, i transefered our current projects too the laptop
yesterday, on my old computer "theme for impending danger"
placed the cpu meter around 80-90 percent, on the laptop
it's 20-40! feels awsome.

so, how's it going with the guittar playing =D ? if you step
by once i got an audiocard we can do some jamming!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 18:46 [#01635061]
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oh, yeah! you were the guy who was getting a laptop with a
regular pentium processor? how's the heat and stuff with
that?


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 18:47 [#01635063]
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honestly no, but ua 101 is the only usb2 audiocard around
these days and is said to go down to 2ms latency.
I do not need all the i/o but i rather have a couple of
extras then too little.

the firewire has a greater variations of i/o and that's why
im considering it instead, but at the same time the edirol
one smells more quality, the i/o are all balanced on it too,
the firewire doesnt have balanced in's wich is "a bit" bad
since ill probably be working in "live areas" and so this
winter.

argh!


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 18:51 [#01635076]
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it's really hot! and by hot i mean warm, not sexy =D! no,
honestly it is very warm (i almost worried at first) but it
goes to a certain level of heat then it just stays there
without doing anything negative.

I myself is happily suprised by the resault of the laptop, i
was expecting it to be a bit "pore" compared to my
girlfriends 3,2 ghz p4, but it actually pulls it off really
well.
I have done some various small tweaking to make it flow
better and work more as an regular computer though and it
feels like it made alittle difference, I really cant stand
all the multimedia wank that is preinstalled on "home
computers" etc but once it was cleaned up it felt great.

all that is missing is audio... im starting to get bored =D


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 18:55 [#01635088]
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great! as long as you remember to keep it cooled down it
should continue being fine.. if you put it on a flat surface
like a table or desk, be sure to use those flaps that some
laptops have under or at least put it so that it is slightly
elevated... my brothers old comp got ruined from
overheating...


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-06-16 18:56 [#01635090]
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direct x drivers should do for the time being


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 18:58 [#01635097]
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yeah, because direct x is really stable. in fact, it never
gets corrupted. and for no reason either.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-06-16 18:59 [#01635098]
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better then mme


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 19:02 [#01635102]
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warm bread is not toast


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 19:04 [#01635106]
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Im keeping it cool, yeah. it has flaps that raises it just
alittle from the flat surface. Acording to the manual the
real danger is if you block the side the fans complety,
there's no risk that i will block the fans under the
computer unless i have it in the bed or something (wich i
have had but with a flat thing under) and then there's side
fans, i tend to avoid placing pretty much anything to close
to them. Im having my mind set to "let it breath" and i will
force myself to think that way and not get cocky taking a
bath with it or anything in 2 years or so.

I feel sorry for your brothers comp, that must have sucked.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 19:06 [#01635109]
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great!

yeah, but my brother needed a new one anyway apparently. he
got one of those tiny macs (even though he has NO use for a
mac.. works mostly with writing stuff)...


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-06-16 19:09 [#01635115]
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Ok excellent. I hope to be around on the weekends more
often. I am trying to evade wasting my time getting wasted
and more time focused on getting myself together for this.

I have a slightly interesting story about my guitar that
loosely ties in to this all.


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 19:10 [#01635117]
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i hope your brother is ok, be sure to keep everyone updated


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 19:13 [#01635122]
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im using asio4all meanwhile, but im really getting tired of
working with headphones.. never been a big fan of it,
especially not daytime.

Im also moving soon, so ill have to wait awhile before
setting stuff up properly at home, im starting to get eager
to set up the midi.

It sucks to have a new computer and not being able to use it
properly quite yet.

So what do you all say, firewire it is then !? =D i must say
that 2ms on the usb2 card sounds really tempting too!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-16 19:14 [#01635124]
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SURE THING WILL DO ALL RIGHTY THEN!


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 19:15 [#01635126]
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allright, sounds good. as you hear im also being a bit
unorganized still and all, need to get allot of things
together before i can be "creative", a new setup allways
confuses too i guess. Hopefully it will turn out for the
best in the end =D

So, youre really WORKING now ? and it is going well ?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-06-16 19:21 [#01635130]
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Ug. I am up at 6am everyday and i get home at 4pm. I am
pretty tired around this time. it is 8:23pm here and i am
already thinking about bed.

I have had some personal issues recently but i am better
now. I hope we can get back on track soon. I need to
reinstall all my audio programs that i didnt know i had
archieved! Phew!


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-16 19:24 [#01635131]
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i see work sucks! and personal problems sucks even more,
maybe, perhaps.

Good that youre feeling good now, it's good, once where back
on track it will be ALL good.

It's 3:30 here, so im off to bed!

have a good evening


 

offline dopper from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-06-16 19:32 [#01635132]
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everyone's life is worse than yours. oh dear, boo hoo.


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-17 07:00 [#01635684]
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bump, im still being a bit insecure, it's leaning towards
the ua 101 becouse of the 2ms latency but the wide variation
of connections on the firewire1814 is also very tempting, at
the same time ive heard allot of people on forums
complaining about problems with m-audio's firewire cards
while the ua101 is pretty much created for intel pentium
with xp sp2 so it seems that it should run easily.

One thing that is really bothering me is that edirol doesnt
have an manual up for dowload on the ua 101, i find the
manuals to be very revealing and good to read before buying
stuff, i e-mailed the support asking for one so hopefully
that will help me choose


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-21 09:04 [#01639441]
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after loads of checking around I decided to go for this tiny
little thing LAZY_FIREBOX

After all the checking around I decided to go for less i/o's
and just get an simple high quality card.

What do you think ?


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-06-21 10:56 [#01639514]
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I have no idea, I use a Tascam 122 USB soundcard. For $200
its worth it. Good quality recording and playback, i just
wish it was firewire instead of USB. Its kinda bulky too
considering it has 1 1/4 input (left&right) and 1 mic input
(left&right) and 2 outputs, 1 1/4 for headphones and 1 RCA
(left&right).

Its bulky, but not heavy. Once you install the drivers its a
breeze to unplug and re-plug between my desktop and laptop
comp.


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offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-06-21 10:58 [#01639518]
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I guess it has more inputs than I said, but I cant figure
out some of them.


 

offline herbwest from Seattle (United States) on 2005-06-21 13:28 [#01639708]
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worthy of note, you'll be able to use Pro Tools LE errr...
Pro Tools M-Powered with the 1814 if you see that as being
of use.


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-21 13:38 [#01639731]
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Yeah I have noticed that, but but. It's too late now =D

I like m-audio you get loads for your money, but still.. i
find the overall "quality feel" to be a bit poor, The main
reason m-audio is so popular is becouse you get allot of
stuff for your money, it's not really becouse the little
stuff there are is great, as far as I understood it that
is.
I have also heard allot of people complaining that the 1814
and the 410 have been really unstable and "messy" wich is
really worrying in my situation as everything else I will be
using is working super great, getting a new audiocard that
mess things up wouldnt make me happy at all.

And, this is only for my smaller laptop setup, If/When I
want to use pro-tools (i have not used it more then once and
that's not really used..) im sure it will be at the state
where I have a monster desktop setup at a new apartment or
something.
I have heard allot of good things about pro-tools and I will
have the chance to work with it some more the coming school
year, looking forward to that.

Good note though, M-audio must be happy about it!


 


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