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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 01:38 [#01624878]
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i want to get a purely midi only keyboard. What do you recommend?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 01:40 [#01624879]
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i like this one LAZY_TITLE
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-06-07 01:41 [#01624881]
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have a look at this
LAZY_KEYBOARDS
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-06-07 01:41 [#01624884]
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i have ozone myself. it has a built-in audio interface
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user unknown
from Chally D Scheme Team (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 02:42 [#01624921]
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edirol's are good (i use an edirol pcr50) m-audio's can have good or bad build quality Korg MS20c with the legacy collection is the bomb
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zero-cool
on 2005-06-07 02:54 [#01624926]
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oh dude sweet
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theo himself
from +- on 2005-06-07 03:00 [#01624931]
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I have a midi keyboard but I never use it.. I dont know what program I'd use it in.. though I'm sure it would make things a lot easier.. cubase? wha
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-07 03:12 [#01624941]
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I would actually advise against the edirol. I had a friend who had one that had two sliders and three knobs that did not respond. He took it back to the store, they sent it back to edirol, and two months later he finally got it back and the two sliders and one of the knobs still didn't work. So he sent it back, they sent him a brand new one (one month later no less), that had one knob that was super stiff, and another that didn't work.
So I would suggest against the edirol keyboards. However, my edirol studio monitors are immaculate.
I use an m-audio 02. I could use another octave or two (its only 25 keys), and more than one slider (seven more would be nice), but its works perfectly. No complaints or problems.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-07 03:15 [#01624943]
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Actually, yeah. You want one of these. The design is fucking hot, and it comes with three killer virtual instruments (they really are quite good). The modular design is very fun (although I haven't used it). It will also most definately start conversations when you bring people back to your studio.
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user unknown
from Chally D Scheme Team (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 03:53 [#01624969]
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the ms20 controller is excellent - i've wasted hours on that thing
the legacy cell soft synth tho really needs the korg microkontrol (its mapped out for one) - korg kind of fucked us over on that one cos the microkontrol is shit ('borrowed' one and took it back)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-07 04:09 [#01624983]
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Is it the keysize? having knobs sliders keys and a pad surface is kind of a nice idea.
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theo himself
from +- on 2005-06-07 08:56 [#01625200]
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what about my question?
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-07 09:39 [#01625245]
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I should say my edirol has had no trouble.
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theo himself
from +- on 2005-06-07 12:31 [#01625490]
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are you using these w/ cubase? or what.. and how can you assign different samples to individual keys
I have intakt and kontakt.. I haven't really used them and from the descriptions I've heard of the two I'm not quite sure what makes one distinct from the other.. they're both just samplers? or is intakt just a sampler.. I dont know.. help me out here!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-07 13:24 [#01625592]
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They both use the same engines...
Intakt is designed more for quick and intuitive sample mapping. It pretty much allows you to lay your samples out in an efficient manner, and decide what effects you want for them quickly. I use it a lot more than Kontakt. When you are mapping samples, using the browser, just drag the file name over the keys, and it will lay them down there. The section you see highlighted in green it the range that that sample will occupy. The higher up on the keyboard your place them, the higher the range of keys that will play that sample.
Kontakt is designed more for for transforming samples. It gives you more options for sample playback (6 compared to 3), but is much harder to map. There are more built in effects (including convolution reverb), and gives you the option to design matrixes for sample modulation and such. You can also write scripts for how the sound is designed in kontakt 2. It also has a engine designed for more voices (Eightpart multitimbral, 256 voice polyphonic).
Its substantially more complex, but realistically, you can use both of them as just a sampler right off the bat.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2005-06-07 13:35 [#01625613]
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talk to impakt. he will sort you out.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-06-07 13:35 [#01625615]
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2005-06-07 19:26 [#01626041]
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Midi keyboards are built to break or something meng, like mine is really starting to come apart.
They are made of really cheap plastic and seem to flaw real fast.
I bought one in Jan, and now the buttons are sticking (not from wanking I promise) and the plastic on the knobs (hehehe KNOBS) are peeling off like bananas or foreskin.
I guess some company is releasing a line of hardcore (hehehe HARDCORE) keyboards (hehehehe KEYBOARDS) that are suppose to be really strong and tough (hehehehe STRONG AND TOUGH hehehe).
Like with wieghted keys and junk like that!
I'm just telling you whats going on with mine, maybe other people have a great time with theirs, I don't know. But yeah meng, looking into it is a good idea :)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-07 20:14 [#01626067]
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"(hehehehe KEYBOARDS)"
that made me chuckle.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-07 20:24 [#01626068]
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I hear lots of good things about m-audio, but I bought an ozone (albeit used) and the thing crapped out in 6 months... so I don't know what to think about them. I do know that the keys on it felt like absolute shit and the spacing on them was even fucked up slightly... so as you can see I'm not a fan of m-audio' keys.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-06-07 20:33 [#01626069]
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i tried both the m-audio oxygen-8 and and the edirol pcr-30.. the edirol was much better quality. the oxygen's sliders and knobs had a lot of dead space at the top and bottom ends.. and the keys were wonky.. i duno if their other products are any better..
my edirol does what it's supposed to, and does it pretty well.
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chaosmachine
from Ottawa (Canada) on 2005-06-07 20:35 [#01626070]
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anyway, my suggestion is to find a store that carries a good selection, and try them hands on.
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zigzag
from … on 2005-06-08 05:17 [#01626285]
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yeah i have a m-audio oxygen 8 too, and i fucking hate that dead space. and the octave +/- buttons are really cheap and crap. if i dont press them in a special way the won't respond. I think ill sell it and by one of these doepfer
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theo himself
from +- on 2005-06-08 11:47 [#01626750]
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and in/kontakt are run within other programs, or can they operate independently? and can you record within in/kontakt?
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theo himself
from +- on 2005-06-08 14:00 [#01626838]
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oh ok.
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