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offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:04 [#01604661]
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.... doesn't it?

I'm supposed to be an engineer, but at the moment I spend
most of the day twiddling my thumbs. It's really depressing
and demotivating. I feel like my brain's rotting and my life
has no direction.

I reckon I have enough work to occupy maybe 40% of my time
(most of it is English teaching to my colleagues, so I
actually do very little engineering). The 60% of the time
that I do nothing I get so tired and frustrated that it's
really difficult to put any effort into the other 40%.

Fuck, I was over-the-moon when I got this job, and I spent
years at university and worked bloody hard during my Masters
last year (getting the highest mark on the course), and all
for this!

I'm 25 and I feel like I should be learning something,
getting some experience, doing something of worth.

Please, someone, empathise with me or something.


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-19 06:08 [#01604664]
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kind of engineering ?


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:08 [#01604665]
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environmental engineering


 

offline furoi from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-05-19 06:12 [#01604667]
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i'm an engineer too (more or less)
fuckin boring work...but i can masturbate my brain on
internet all the day...so...
i rexist


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:12 [#01604668]
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perhaps you could get another part time job..something to
exercise your brain. that's what i did anyway - my work
sucks as well, it's boring office job but at least i get to
post here during my working hours. i now applied for a part
time job for some radio station and i hope that'll make me
happier :)
if you get enough money from what you do now, just find
something you'd enjoy doing and go for it!


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-19 06:13 [#01604669]
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im structural engineer and i find my work very enjoyable.
what else should i say.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:16 [#01604671]
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you're one lucky fellow..not many get to do what they
enjoy..


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:16 [#01604672]
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I am DJing in my spare time, making my radio show at
www.mishkas.com and hopefully might be able to get some FM
broadcasts for that in Lithuania.... this is all fun.......

..... but I spend 45 hours a week in this office, which is a
huge chunk of my time, and I just need to have something of
value to occupy my mind while I'm here.

Posting on the internet all day just makes me feel lazy and
worthless.


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-19 06:17 [#01604673]
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i spend 50 hours weekly in office. sometimes im tired as
fuck, so i know the feeling.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:19 [#01604675]
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But how much of your time do you actually spend working, and
how much messing around? Are you constantly busy, or do you
have huge chunks of time to fill? Do you feel like you're
learning much as you work?

You see, maybe everybody else is in the same boat as me and
not worrying about it? I just don't know!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:20 [#01604676]
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i see..yeah, that can be a problem..maybe you could talk to
your superiors about it, make some suggestions or
something..perhaps something they taught you in school :)


 

offline Opto on 2005-05-19 06:24 [#01604681]
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surely i have spare time - thats why im teasing with others
here. but mainly im doing something - and if theres nothing
around, im looking for something - sometimes you need to
find it.






and if theres really nothing to do , then BAH ! ENJOY !!!
youre payed for DOING NOTHING !!!! haha, thats
perfect, isnt it ?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:24 [#01604682]
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i spent about 2 years working 10-12 hours per day without a
day off in the whole two years..i was totally exhausted and
got real weird..i didn't get anything out of it so i just
don't bother anymore..it doesn't worth it.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2005-05-19 06:27 [#01604683]
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surfing on the internet all day long? sounds like the
perfect job to me. i want one!


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:29 [#01604685]
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Believe me, I've looked.... talked to people..... tried to
find jobs... but it doesn't seem to be working.

The boss usually just says "Don't worry, something will come
along soon."

I've even been making phone calls trying to find new
projects for the company that I could maybe be involved in.
I made the first contact with a company with which we've
recently embarked on a really big new project and, guess
what? My role in the project is going to be really small,
even though they wouldn't have it without me! ARGH!


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:31 [#01604688]
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Surfing on the internet all day long and getting paid for it
is shite. Honestly, it is. I mean, if you were being paid
millions for it, it might be different. And if that was in
your job description (and you didn't therefore feel guilty
over it), then that might also be different.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-19 06:34 [#01604689]
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i dont even have a job, i cant emphatize with you.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 06:39 [#01604692]
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Don't worry mate, I'm in a similar position to you. Nice to
know all that staying up all night to get a first and
distinction has been recognised at long last, eh? :-/


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:47 [#01604700]
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Exactly. I mean, what was the point? I don't know - as my
dad always says, working for a living is bloody awful. But
unfortunately we have to do it.

My plan is to stick this job out until the end of summer,
and if it's still a pile of steaming elephant turds then I
might quit. The only problem is, that will inevitably mean
I'll have to return to the UK and leave my g/f here, as the
only other thing I could do here is teach English (which I
really don't want to do). Still, she might come with me.

Anyway, it's good to know that I'm not the only one. Well,
sort of - it's also crap that you're in the same situation.
What will you do? Sit it out or do something else?


 

offline furoi from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-05-19 07:12 [#01604720]
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it happens sometimes...of course
;)



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 07:14 [#01604724]
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Don't get me wrong, my current job isn't awful, it's just
it's pretty boring/doesn't stretch me. Whilst it's probably
a better than a job I could've gotten with mediocre
results/CV, it's not proportionally better, given the extra
work/effort.

It sounds arrogant, but I was one of the best on my degree
(and am currently one of the best on my Masters that I'm
doing part time) and on top of that, I'm comparatively
experienced and very good/popular with our clients (a rarity
among technical people). I just don't feel my job is fitting
for one of the best, you know?

What will you do? Sit it out or do something else?

I basically took my boss aside, expressed these concerns to
him and he agrees they're ont paying me enough/giving me
interesting enough work, to reflect how good I am for the
company. I basically said, "This isn't a threat, but if
that's (payrise) the best you can do, I really will lose a
lot of motivation- I've worked as hard as you wanted, then
some, bent over backwards to be flexible, etc. if I only get
a marginal payrise, it's not worth the effort and I really
won't be like that in future, sorry."

Fortunately, he's a reasonable bloke and assures me a
promotion/significant payrise is on the horizon. If it's
just another payrise (I've already had one in the 6 months
I've been here) that'll be good, but if it was a promotion
to a more interesting role (with more pay), that'd be ideal.


If nothing materialises in the next 6 months, I'll
definately seriously start looking for another job.
Currently, I'm looking, but I'd want a job that I knew was
better. If there's no opportunities here, there's nothing to
be lost by moving somewhere that's only 'equivalent', but
with better chances of promotion.

Hope you sort your situ too.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 07:19 [#01604732]
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Cheers. Your plan sounds good to me.... I think I will do
the same - wait a while and see what happens. My job isn't
*that* bad either when I actually have something to do, and
I think it will look pretty good on a CV when I go back home
(I don't really want to be out here forever - wages are very
low, etc) - not many people have worked in one of the new EU
members and there's quite a lot of environmental work to be
done out here by Western companies, so local knowledge could
be good.

Anyway, one thing I'm thinking of doing is going back and
doing a PhD in Sept 2006. I enjoy and am successful at
studying, but every job I get seems to end up being a joke.
Maybe a career in academia is the only way forward.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-19 07:22 [#01604734]
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work ona project at home
there is tons to do
but doing your own little engineering project at home may
fill that gap you are feeling.



 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-05-19 07:33 [#01604753]
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no, not worrking sucks.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-05-19 07:34 [#01604754]
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i've just this second come back frrom a jobfarre. waste of
fucking time. but i did get a sweet.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-05-19 07:38 [#01604760]
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Start killing people at night


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:18 [#01605012]
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I agree experience abroad is almost always a good thing. It
shows you're more likely to be up for a bit of 'on the road'
work and also likely to be reasonably open minded. As you
say, ideal would be a uk firm with contracts out there that
they'd need you to visit occassionally.

Re: Academia. Yep, I'm looking at that too. Once the masters
is in the can (2 years to go, if all goes to plan), and
assuming I continue to do well at it, I'll work in industry
for another couple of years, then probably go and do a
doctorate full time. Go back to work for a few years after
that to make most of my money, then 'retire' into academia.
For all their whingening re: pay, lecturers get a bloody
easy and interesting time of it compared to working 'in the
real world'. 3 mates are lecturers, 2 of them senior ones-
I'm not just basing that statement on what I saw as a
student. :)


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:27 [#01605018]
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I wish my job consisted of surfing the net all day. I dont
learn anything here, I deal with idiots all day, bullshit
dribble day-in, day-out. I miss my sleep and I'm way too
stressed about nothing at all. My only solice is that I can
listen to music all day and sneak in some posts here on xlt.



 

offline thatne from United States on 2005-05-19 10:29 [#01605022]
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maybe you could use your free time at work to learn a new
creative skill. when i have free time at my office, i
usually browse wikipedia. my boss even commended me for
having it as my homepage.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:33 [#01605024]
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pfft, I wouldn't do that unless I was being paid millions of
dollars and it was in my job description

[/sarcasm]


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-19 11:47 [#01605075]
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At least you all have jobs, im still searching for a job and
im skinter than a weasel in the third world.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 11:51 [#01605081]
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Now *that* sounds like a good plan - I like it. Go and do a
PhD, then back to work for a bit, then academia. I'm going
to have a think about that.

I think the chances are that I will go back and do a PhD. I
really enjoy academic research and the whole university
thing. I like the idea of an interesting, mind-expanding
career that involves working with like-minded people who
aren't just "in it for the money". Also, I'd love to teach
the next generation of environmental scientists about how
much we're fucking up this planet and what we need to do
about it.

I reckon I'll try to stick things out here for another year
and a half, then plunge headfirst back into studying. It's
actually quite easy to secure a fully-funded PhD in the Uk
now - 12k a year tax-free


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-05-19 14:11 [#01605219]
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mind-expanding career that involves working with
like-minded people who aren't just "in it for the
money"


I worrk to live, I don't live to worrk.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-05-19 14:41 [#01605253]
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I work in a call centre. Full-time. It's fucking bollocks,
but I've saved for a few month and have a few grand together
and me and my band are going to record an album in my flat,
so I'm quitting soon. I can't wait! I'm going to put my
heart and soul into this project.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 14:59 [#01605276]
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I want to hear it when its done.


 

offline OK on 2005-05-19 17:27 [#01605453]
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make a php script so teachers can mantain personal webpages
easily, upload course notes, as well as homeworks, and
course info. keep curriculum updated and general info.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-20 04:29 [#01605919]
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I reckon I'll try to stick things out here for another
year
and a half, then plunge headfirst back into studying. It's
actually quite easy to secure a fully-funded PhD in the Uk
now - 12k a year tax-free


Yeah, you can land up to 15K tax free if you do a bit of
tuition whilst studying for it, plus all the usual uni
benefits like subsidised meals, accomodation, etc. Mounts up
to an equivalent salary of around £25K taxed, so it's
hardly like going back to 'roughing it' as a student :)

MC_303. Best of luck with that, I genuinely hope it all
works.


 


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