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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:04 [#01604661]
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.... doesn't it?
I'm supposed to be an engineer, but at the moment I spend most of the day twiddling my thumbs. It's really depressing and demotivating. I feel like my brain's rotting and my life has no direction.
I reckon I have enough work to occupy maybe 40% of my time (most of it is English teaching to my colleagues, so I actually do very little engineering). The 60% of the time that I do nothing I get so tired and frustrated that it's really difficult to put any effort into the other 40%.
Fuck, I was over-the-moon when I got this job, and I spent years at university and worked bloody hard during my Masters last year (getting the highest mark on the course), and all for this!
I'm 25 and I feel like I should be learning something, getting some experience, doing something of worth.
Please, someone, empathise with me or something.
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Opto
on 2005-05-19 06:08 [#01604664]
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kind of engineering ?
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:08 [#01604665]
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environmental engineering
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-05-19 06:12 [#01604667]
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i'm an engineer too (more or less) fuckin boring work...but i can masturbate my brain on internet all the day...so...
i rexist
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:12 [#01604668]
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perhaps you could get another part time job..something to exercise your brain. that's what i did anyway - my work sucks as well, it's boring office job but at least i get to post here during my working hours. i now applied for a part time job for some radio station and i hope that'll make me happier :)
if you get enough money from what you do now, just find something you'd enjoy doing and go for it!
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Opto
on 2005-05-19 06:13 [#01604669]
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im structural engineer and i find my work very enjoyable. what else should i say.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:16 [#01604671]
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you're one lucky fellow..not many get to do what they enjoy..
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:16 [#01604672]
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I am DJing in my spare time, making my radio show at www.mishkas.com and hopefully might be able to get some FM broadcasts for that in Lithuania.... this is all fun.......
..... but I spend 45 hours a week in this office, which is a huge chunk of my time, and I just need to have something of value to occupy my mind while I'm here.
Posting on the internet all day just makes me feel lazy and worthless.
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Opto
on 2005-05-19 06:17 [#01604673]
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i spend 50 hours weekly in office. sometimes im tired as fuck, so i know the feeling.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:19 [#01604675]
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But how much of your time do you actually spend working, and how much messing around? Are you constantly busy, or do you have huge chunks of time to fill? Do you feel like you're learning much as you work?
You see, maybe everybody else is in the same boat as me and not worrying about it? I just don't know!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:20 [#01604676]
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i see..yeah, that can be a problem..maybe you could talk to your superiors about it, make some suggestions or something..perhaps something they taught you in school :)
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Opto
on 2005-05-19 06:24 [#01604681]
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surely i have spare time - thats why im teasing with others here. but mainly im doing something - and if theres nothing around, im looking for something - sometimes you need to find it.
and if theres really nothing to do , then BAH ! ENJOY !!! youre payed for DOING NOTHING !!!! haha, thats perfect, isnt it ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-19 06:24 [#01604682]
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i spent about 2 years working 10-12 hours per day without a day off in the whole two years..i was totally exhausted and got real weird..i didn't get anything out of it so i just don't bother anymore..it doesn't worth it.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-05-19 06:27 [#01604683]
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surfing on the internet all day long? sounds like the perfect job to me. i want one!
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:29 [#01604685]
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Believe me, I've looked.... talked to people..... tried to find jobs... but it doesn't seem to be working.
The boss usually just says "Don't worry, something will come along soon."
I've even been making phone calls trying to find new projects for the company that I could maybe be involved in. I made the first contact with a company with which we've recently embarked on a really big new project and, guess what? My role in the project is going to be really small, even though they wouldn't have it without me! ARGH!
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:31 [#01604688]
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Surfing on the internet all day long and getting paid for it is shite. Honestly, it is. I mean, if you were being paid millions for it, it might be different. And if that was in your job description (and you didn't therefore feel guilty over it), then that might also be different.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2005-05-19 06:34 [#01604689]
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i dont even have a job, i cant emphatize with you.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 06:39 [#01604692]
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Don't worry mate, I'm in a similar position to you. Nice to know all that staying up all night to get a first and distinction has been recognised at long last, eh? :-/
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 06:47 [#01604700]
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Exactly. I mean, what was the point? I don't know - as my dad always says, working for a living is bloody awful. But unfortunately we have to do it.
My plan is to stick this job out until the end of summer, and if it's still a pile of steaming elephant turds then I might quit. The only problem is, that will inevitably mean I'll have to return to the UK and leave my g/f here, as the only other thing I could do here is teach English (which I really don't want to do). Still, she might come with me.
Anyway, it's good to know that I'm not the only one. Well, sort of - it's also crap that you're in the same situation. What will you do? Sit it out or do something else?
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-05-19 07:12 [#01604720]
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it happens sometimes...of course ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 07:14 [#01604724]
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Don't get me wrong, my current job isn't awful, it's just it's pretty boring/doesn't stretch me. Whilst it's probably a better than a job I could've gotten with mediocre results/CV, it's not proportionally better, given the extra work/effort.
It sounds arrogant, but I was one of the best on my degree (and am currently one of the best on my Masters that I'm doing part time) and on top of that, I'm comparatively experienced and very good/popular with our clients (a rarity among technical people). I just don't feel my job is fitting for one of the best, you know?
What will you do? Sit it out or do something else?
I basically took my boss aside, expressed these concerns to him and he agrees they're ont paying me enough/giving me interesting enough work, to reflect how good I am for the company. I basically said, "This isn't a threat, but if that's (payrise) the best you can do, I really will lose a lot of motivation- I've worked as hard as you wanted, then some, bent over backwards to be flexible, etc. if I only get a marginal payrise, it's not worth the effort and I really won't be like that in future, sorry."
Fortunately, he's a reasonable bloke and assures me a promotion/significant payrise is on the horizon. If it's just another payrise (I've already had one in the 6 months I've been here) that'll be good, but if it was a promotion to a more interesting role (with more pay), that'd be ideal.
If nothing materialises in the next 6 months, I'll definately seriously start looking for another job. Currently, I'm looking, but I'd want a job that I knew was better. If there's no opportunities here, there's nothing to be lost by moving somewhere that's only 'equivalent', but with better chances of promotion.
Hope you sort your situ too.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 07:19 [#01604732]
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Cheers. Your plan sounds good to me.... I think I will do the same - wait a while and see what happens. My job isn't *that* bad either when I actually have something to do, and I think it will look pretty good on a CV when I go back home (I don't really want to be out here forever - wages are very low, etc) - not many people have worked in one of the new EU members and there's quite a lot of environmental work to be done out here by Western companies, so local knowledge could be good.
Anyway, one thing I'm thinking of doing is going back and doing a PhD in Sept 2006. I enjoy and am successful at studying, but every job I get seems to end up being a joke. Maybe a career in academia is the only way forward.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-05-19 07:22 [#01604734]
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work ona project at home there is tons to do but doing your own little engineering project at home may fill that gap you are feeling.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-19 07:33 [#01604753]
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no, not worrking sucks.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-19 07:34 [#01604754]
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i've just this second come back frrom a jobfarre. waste of fucking time. but i did get a sweet.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-19 07:38 [#01604760]
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Start killing people at night
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:18 [#01605012]
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I agree experience abroad is almost always a good thing. It shows you're more likely to be up for a bit of 'on the road' work and also likely to be reasonably open minded. As you say, ideal would be a uk firm with contracts out there that they'd need you to visit occassionally.
Re: Academia. Yep, I'm looking at that too. Once the masters is in the can (2 years to go, if all goes to plan), and assuming I continue to do well at it, I'll work in industry for another couple of years, then probably go and do a doctorate full time. Go back to work for a few years after that to make most of my money, then 'retire' into academia. For all their whingening re: pay, lecturers get a bloody easy and interesting time of it compared to working 'in the real world'. 3 mates are lecturers, 2 of them senior ones- I'm not just basing that statement on what I saw as a student. :)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:27 [#01605018]
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I wish my job consisted of surfing the net all day. I dont learn anything here, I deal with idiots all day, bullshit dribble day-in, day-out. I miss my sleep and I'm way too stressed about nothing at all. My only solice is that I can listen to music all day and sneak in some posts here on xlt.
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thatne
from United States on 2005-05-19 10:29 [#01605022]
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maybe you could use your free time at work to learn a new creative skill. when i have free time at my office, i usually browse wikipedia. my boss even commended me for having it as my homepage.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 10:33 [#01605024]
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pfft, I wouldn't do that unless I was being paid millions of dollars and it was in my job description
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-19 11:47 [#01605075]
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At least you all have jobs, im still searching for a job and im skinter than a weasel in the third world.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-05-19 11:51 [#01605081]
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Now *that* sounds like a good plan - I like it. Go and do a PhD, then back to work for a bit, then academia. I'm going to have a think about that.
I think the chances are that I will go back and do a PhD. I really enjoy academic research and the whole university thing. I like the idea of an interesting, mind-expanding career that involves working with like-minded people who aren't just "in it for the money". Also, I'd love to teach the next generation of environmental scientists about how much we're fucking up this planet and what we need to do about it.
I reckon I'll try to stick things out here for another year and a half, then plunge headfirst back into studying. It's actually quite easy to secure a fully-funded PhD in the Uk now - 12k a year tax-free
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-05-19 14:11 [#01605219]
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mind-expanding career that involves working with like-minded people who aren't just "in it for the money"
I worrk to live, I don't live to worrk.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-05-19 14:41 [#01605253]
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I work in a call centre. Full-time. It's fucking bollocks, but I've saved for a few month and have a few grand together and me and my band are going to record an album in my flat, so I'm quitting soon. I can't wait! I'm going to put my heart and soul into this project.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-05-19 14:59 [#01605276]
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I want to hear it when its done.
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OK
on 2005-05-19 17:27 [#01605453]
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make a php script so teachers can mantain personal webpages easily, upload course notes, as well as homeworks, and course info. keep curriculum updated and general info.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-05-20 04:29 [#01605919]
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I reckon I'll try to stick things out here for another year
and a half, then plunge headfirst back into studying. It's actually quite easy to secure a fully-funded PhD in the Uk now - 12k a year tax-free
Yeah, you can land up to 15K tax free if you do a bit of tuition whilst studying for it, plus all the usual uni benefits like subsidised meals, accomodation, etc. Mounts up to an equivalent salary of around £25K taxed, so it's hardly like going back to 'roughing it' as a student :)
MC_303. Best of luck with that, I genuinely hope it all works.
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