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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-07 03:30 [#01590516]
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I'm playing my first gig june 8th, and my plan is to record the set with stereo-sound, and put it all up on my site so you all can listen. Plus maybe a live-video for one of the tracks (it all depends on if I can get a decent camera).
My manager hooked me up with some professional projector equipment, so I'll have live visualization.
Here's some new shit I've been cooking...enjoy
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-07 04:49 [#01590531]
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I liked the track, but the synth sounds are a bit corny, and the programming seemed a bit off in places. However, these things could have been intentional.
It's nice to see more melodic content for a change in a track posted here.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-07 05:12 [#01590534]
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thanks.
Yes the synths are corny, but untill I get equipment instead of software, I like it that way...powerfull
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-07 05:17 [#01590536]
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...and the ending is pretty drummy 'cause it'll go over in a bas-guitar slap-part...which I haven't recorded.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 05:17 [#01591401]
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*b u mp*
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 05:24 [#01591408]
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needs alot of work dude, but have fun
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 05:24 [#01591410]
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what? the track or the gig?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 05:28 [#01591414]
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that mp3
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 05:28 [#01591416]
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can you explain? please?
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Clic
on 2005-05-08 07:07 [#01591470]
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That wasn't good.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-08 07:15 [#01591473]
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I agree, not very good.
it sounds a bit amateurish. especially the production sounds kind of dead.
the synths do not sound powerful, just cheesy. but I think the whole thing sounds kind of powerless because of the production.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 07:46 [#01591479]
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k i listened to it again man. the first half of the song is so bad i laughed very hard; it felt like i was going to piss in my pants dude
the last few moments aren't 100% bad. the whole thing though, it just sounds amateur dude. no production. its just, zero, empty. its weak. weak beats and weak sounds. it's wack. it needs work.
i havent put any of my music on the board so im not really in any place to judge
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-05-08 08:09 [#01591498]
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it's not bad imo. but I agree with qrter about the production. although it isn't THAT bad either. maybe you two (qrter and cygnus) are a bit too harsh?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 09:15 [#01591590]
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well that pisses me off. Not your comment, but the fact is that I myself feel this track a lot. I'm sooooo fucking tired of fiddling with software, and getting nothing but crap out of the production.
Why why why?! Some people like it as it is, and other shit all over it.
Can anyone PLEASE fucking suggest me some hardware I should buy, so I can get ANY sound out of this crap. (something with midi-in would do)
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 09:19 [#01591592]
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...and do you feel the same way about this track?
'cause if so, i'll start all over....
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-08 09:41 [#01591601]
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I calls em as I hears em!
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 13:27 [#01591763]
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that second track is not so bad dude
dude do not get pissed off at criticism. well i guess its ok to get pisssed. but, its expected that you like the music that you make. i just myself personally do not like it dude. relax
i suggest buying i dunno a hardware sampler or something w/ some effects, most people will tell you just to buy sofware and then a midi controller combo but i feel like that limits you. reccomend the boss sp-303.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 13:29 [#01591765]
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buy a mixer or something, start i dunno, like, studying digital music production.. whatever. i think that hardware > software if youre real serious about putting on shows dude
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 14:04 [#01591802]
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thanks for the explanation Cygnus...
I'm checking up on that Boss SP-303...It looks like the thing I could use...I like twiddling with little knobs and buttons. Right now I'm trying to get an old Yamaha Portasound PSS-480 wired through a Korg Toneworks guitar-pedal...it's kinda fun, but the Midi-In on the Portasound is broken, and I'm waiting for a friend to fix it. Then i'll use the Midi-Out-function in FL4 to play some of my compositions through the Portasound, maybe wire it through the Toneworks pedal, and re-record it into my computer. Basically remaster all the software-synths I've been using in my tracks, and maybe get a more "dusty" sound.
The only problem is that wires catch a lot of noise from computers, so I'm gonna use my laptop to limit it a little.
I'll ask some of my friends on some 'digital music production' PDF's ...I think one of my friends has shitloads of that stuff...
I just want out of the software-sound-situation
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 14:09 [#01591810]
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ive always said software-only is bad unlss you know what youre doing..
what kind of speakers are you using dude
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 14:40 [#01591831]
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none really...I have a pair of Sony MDR-7506 Studio Monitor Headphones, but it really doesn't give me a full enough sound to make a decent mix.
I also have a M-Audio Ozono.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-08 15:22 [#01591878]
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Oh dear I was going to try and be positive in light of the other comments posted, but sadly I have to agree with what has been said before. Structurally it is poor, the sounds are poor, the production is poor. It doesn't sound corny so much as dumb. The beat work is poor, to rigid and lacks drive.
Plus you can't blame software for your shortcomings because software is capable of pretty much everything hardware is capable of. You just need to put more work in.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 15:31 [#01591894]
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naah...fuck it...im tired of complex drum-programming. It requires too much work. I'm gonna make some chillout shit again, and focus more on the melodies
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-08 15:43 [#01591916]
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i agree, hardware is not necessarily going to fix your problems. the great thing about software is in a lot of cases, you can do more with it than you could with hardware. I find when i do use hardware, i end up sampling it and processing it with software anyway.
i don't think the end of your track is cheesy. when that really clean beat kicks in, i think thats like the only good part of the track. if it were my track, i would ditch the whole beginning and start with that clean beat at the end, add some breaks, some more layers of melodies, build a track using that as a framework.
but that's just me!
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 15:48 [#01591925]
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yeah...maybe...as I mentioned before I have some bas-slapping prepared for that part...maybe I should build it on that
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-08 15:58 [#01591941]
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I'm not even talking about complex drum programming, you can do a decent so called "complex" drum beat in about 2 minutes in Cubase, it's more to do with the flow of the break, it can even be something as simple as the tempo being off slightly...it just makes the break sound wrong.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 16:08 [#01591959]
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so, you're saying that I can make some good drum-effects if I exported the drums from FL, and played with them in the track as wav-files instead of sequencing?
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-08 16:09 [#01591963]
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No, just use Cubase with a software sampler like Kontakt or even just using battery. Then just sequence the hits in MIDI in Cubase.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2005-05-08 16:10 [#01591968]
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Ok...that sounds interesting...I will give it a try. Thanks. I'm kinda lost on the drum-side of my tracks, so hints like this is a good help :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-08 16:14 [#01591976]
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There are loads of other little tricks that you will have to figure out for yourself that eases the process and makes things sound better. You can pick them up by listening to some of Aphex's drill tracks on Drukqs...listen to the structure :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-08 16:18 [#01591980]
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He's something I have just done since my last post with about 25 drum hit samples, a sample from todays BBC news, Kontakt and Cubase.
LAZY_TITLE
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MrMarlboro
from Ethiopia on 2005-05-08 16:30 [#01591995]
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hey man, i really likes your solowsolo track, can't understand if the others
think it's lame or something.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-05-08 16:35 [#01591998]
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you are planning on bass-slapping over that music?
dude, dont do it
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-08 16:58 [#01592044]
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i'm just drinking some beers and eating some potato chips on a sunday afternoon...!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-08 16:58 [#01592046]
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oops, sorry. wrong thread!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-08 17:02 [#01592050]
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beats ^ vocal sample v
track >>>
:D!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-05-08 17:04 [#01592057]
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Uh.
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big
from lsg on 2005-05-08 17:18 [#01592077]
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we hate you, grr
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