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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-18 05:43 [#01568843]
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New to this artist i have just recieved Pulse demon from the post. I was struck by the immense screeching nature of the music. Is there melody behind the wall of noise? I'm gonna listen to it later but can't be arsed at the moment plus my mum will go crazy. I've heard pulse demon is thier best followed by 1930 is this true?
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Opto
on 2005-04-18 05:51 [#01568851]
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theres allways melody, its just the people used to think that melody must be hearable as a set of nice sounds in specific order. which is weird.
what autechre did with halfer trio was also a melody, harsh one, but still a melody.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 05:53 [#01568855]
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i wouldn't say there's any melody in his music..well the big majority of it. he's ace to see live though so go see him when you get a chance :)
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-18 05:53 [#01568856]
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yeah but ae's melodies are stunning. just wondered if merzbows were.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 05:53 [#01568857]
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i have 1930 and i listen to it when i wanna express protest to something.
Merzbow has made so much of stuff that there is no sence to listen to some particular album - take the first one you see and listen.
I like his Game Boy produced track (on Nanoloop 1.0 compilation) a lot. I need more stuff like this to play it LOUD.
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Opto
on 2005-04-18 05:54 [#01568859]
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you just need to reconsider theory of melody in overall look. what makes harmony, whats a "noise" therm and stuff like that.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-18 05:54 [#01568861]
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check under mp3 section
first track!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 06:00 [#01568867]
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yes, you're right, but it still doesn't sound melodic :)
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 06:04 [#01568881]
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a nightmare
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 06:05 [#01568882]
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have you been on a performance of Merzbow?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 06:08 [#01568888]
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yes, and it was fantastic..i've seen other noise artists play live before, but masami was much better..he's actually composing it live..great guy.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-18 06:09 [#01568890]
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it's a bit more dynamic than merzbow...but still,to each its own.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 06:12 [#01568895]
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cool. but a lot of noise artists improvise when playing live. If not all of them.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 06:19 [#01568904]
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yes, definitely, but they usually do it quite simple..laptop and a good piece of software and they're ready to go..merzbow was playing from two laptops and was sort of composing it with the way he was moving his mouse..he has a great sense for putting together layers so it turns out real intense..
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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-04-18 06:22 [#01568911]
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factory music...
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 07:02 [#01568948]
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you aren't joking, are you. :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 07:05 [#01568954]
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joking about what part? :) i was dead serious!
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 07:10 [#01568963]
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okay. i had a slight feeling of irony or sarcasm somewhere between the lines. :)
anyway, if merzbow performs nearby i will go.
some noise musicians make their sounds not from laptops - they use simple things like hi-hats which they knock with thair fingers, while another hand controls effects so that hihat sounds like something extratterrestrial.. some pour sand, little stones near the mic, rub bells, kid toys like small xylophone, use their own breath.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-04-18 07:11 [#01568964]
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hmm i like the idea of a game boy song...know where i can find other such songs?
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notmyname
from France on 2005-04-18 07:16 [#01568969]
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i only have satanstornade (merzbow+russ haswell), its great but do not have any melodies.
i have also 2 cds by powerbooks for peace (feat one guy from team doyobi) its pretty hardcore & not as "quiet" as merzbow, not very good also
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 07:19 [#01568972]
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it is from this release. all songs made on gameboy in nanoloop program.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-04-18 07:21 [#01568973]
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yes, i've seen those kinds of shows before and loved them, but for white noise they usually use laptops only. there was a funny guy opening for merzbow when i saw him few months ago and he was using rhythm machine and keyboard programmed with dirty heavy guitar sounds..it was fun but not really impressive music wise.
i'd love to see matmos live one day..they're surely one of the best live improvisation artists..they tend to use weird stuff and apperantly it always turns out great..
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 07:33 [#01568994]
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there is smth strange about matmos. i have 4 albums and don't like them more than "6/10". but they are said to be very cool live.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-18 07:58 [#01569013]
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fuck sake just listening now, and i thought graf was abstract...
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 08:08 [#01569025]
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hehehe :) Gantz Graf is rather abstract, too. Less, of course, but...
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-18 08:13 [#01569030]
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really difficult to listen to, makes gantz graf, pen expers and cap iv sound like Pop music.
However the more abstract the music is does not always make it better for me although i like it to be damn abstract.
Merzbow seems good from what i've listened but not in the same league as ae's abstract shit.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2005-04-18 08:32 [#01569043]
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Merzbow doesn't give me anyting on record, but it was ok to see him live. Ear-cleaning
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-04-18 08:34 [#01569047]
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pulse demon review
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 08:34 [#01569049]
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right.
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2005-04-18 08:37 [#01569053]
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try the Merzbox a 50 cd album of mr.Merzbow more than 60h of clean and very difrent noises.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 08:43 [#01569057]
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d'ya have it?
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ISayNothing
from Mt. Pus (Sweden) on 2005-04-18 08:57 [#01569066]
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i dont believe anyone have the merzbox. its just a publicity trick!
i wont believe 'till i've seen it with my own eyes!
someone better send me a merzbox, so i can start believe ;)
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-04-18 09:00 [#01569070]
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i looove masonna !!!!!
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-04-18 09:01 [#01569072]
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if anyone has it, please tell me. i'll have 50 cdrs when i'll be visiting your country. not a small job of copying 50 cds, maybe.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-04-18 09:01 [#01569073]
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merzbox
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-04-18 09:02 [#01569076]
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Any less than 50 CDs would not have done justice to the scope and ingenuity of MERZBOW's musical manifesto
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-04-18 09:05 [#01569078]
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500$ man
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rzezniq
from gorzow (Poland) on 2005-04-18 09:06 [#01569079]
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wanna get the 37cd`s of merzbox???? mail me at rzezniq@o2.pl
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ISayNothing
from Mt. Pus (Sweden) on 2005-04-18 09:13 [#01569085]
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yeaah, i kinda know that it exists. but we cant REALLY believe it can we?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-18 10:14 [#01569186]
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I could never really manage too enjoy noise music. But I can see the appeal.
I said the same about Autechre, so it could grow on me. I can't understand what actual skill goes behind it, but I supposed that's not really relevant anyway.
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-04-18 10:15 [#01569188]
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i have only this one...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-04-18 10:22 [#01569200]
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I only really like Promotion Man because it's Merzpop.
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