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offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 09:47 [#01568151]
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Does anyone know if it is possible to disengage rewire when
playing a track? I want to run Cubase and Ableton together
but be able to open a different track in one of them,
without stopping the sequencer in the other.

Any Ideas/Abuse welcome


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 10:15 [#01568183]
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lol,what?


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 10:16 [#01568186]
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as i understood...

you want to play a certain channel from one of the
apps,let's say u got a drum track in ableton and you just
want to preview it without hearing the other sounds?


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 10:41 [#01568208]
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Sorry if my initial post was confusing...it may just get
worse...

Im playing a live set, I have 6 tracks I want to play, the
elements of the tracks are shared between cubase and ableton
live.

As I reach the end of a track I would like to disengage the
rewire to cubase, leaving the elements in ableton running or
visa versa.

That way I can load up the next track in cubase,
resynchronise with ableton and start bringing in elements of
the next track into the mix. Is this a really bizarre way
to perform or do most people just set up one huge sequencer
file?


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 11:43 [#01568277]
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ahh...live play. :)

well,the setup you have can be a roulette,because cubase can
freeze,so i advise you to make it simple and easier for
you.
just imagine you are now on stage and u have a live set,okay
everything sounds nice untill you have to load parts from
the other track in order to make an transition.
basicly a whole bunch of ppl who perform live usually export
all the channels (into loops) from tracks and load em to
ableton.
seriously,it will save you processor power and freezing ur
laptop or pc cos you wanted to load a big file in cubase or
live.
ableton is made for that...he alone is more that enuff for
live play,so i sudgest you bounce all your channels from
tracks and load em to ableton.

once u got everything loaded in u got 2 options...either
make an altering arrangement to the tracks u will play press
start and twiddle with knobs, or make small loops with which
mark one position in a track.
let's say...u can make an intro,start of the track,break and
so on.
basicly that's the most fun part with ableton...jamming.
i know to export each channel with a sounds looped in like 2
to 4 bars and improvise on the go.
by that you will understant how the arrangement works and it
will bring some new ideas to the fortcoming tracks.
jamming is (imo) the best possible way to understand the
principles of music arrangement.

hope i made some things easier for you?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2005-04-17 11:48 [#01568281]
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what about when a cat sees it's rreflection


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 11:51 [#01568289]
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Thanks for the advice plaster :) You are right cpu is
critical to it being succesful, a system crash in front of a
crowd would be rather bad.

Some of the sounds in my track depend on live effects
tweeking that can't be captured properly in a loop (Reverb,
dely tails etc). Hopefully they will be compatible with
ableton aswell.

I will spend some time transferring everything into loops
and have a go at it...I recently bought an evolution
x-session controller which is good for jamming in
ableton....I will let you know how I get on.


 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 12:22 [#01568305]
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i used to export for like 2 hours per track..each
channel,that being about 50 of em.

umm...if you have effects,just export the sound as much as
it needs to have all of the fx on it...nothing to worry
about.



 

offline plaster from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 12:23 [#01568309]
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my dog doesn't know who is in the mirror...i think it's the
same as katz.
they probaly think it's another creature infront of them.

try asking your cat?


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-04-17 18:57 [#01568561]
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A simpler sollution that running them as separate programs,
and just load all the elements into different cubase songs
that are open at once, and have the first ableton song muted
in the mixer, with the rewire chanel it is running through
on a low setting... then, as you are going to start the next
song, unmute ableton, start turning up its channel, and
progressively bring the channels that are sequenced in
cubase down to nothing. Not only does this allow you to
seamlessly crossfade (if done correctly), it adds the
benifit of beatmatching your song for you. Unfortunately,
you would have to pause for a second to start the third
song, or else your cubase session might freeze up, and you
risk loosing communication with your soundcard, or having
one sound frozen in your audio buffer, or countless other
bad things. Not good for a live setting. Another solution,
would be to have a minute or so filler track cued up in
winamp, so that when you want to stop the cubase song, and
want to load the next one, you can just press play in
winamp, then close the first cubase song and get everything
cued up for the next cubase/reason volley.

That is how I would do what you seem to want to do.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2005-04-17 19:00 [#01568563]
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Or you could do the same as plaster suggested with ableton.
Maybe I should read past the first post next time :S

If you want a seamless mix though, you could also do the
winamp thing, only in between each ableton song.

Or you could have two songs worth of loops set up in
ableton, and just arrange it through the first to the next.


 

offline KADO from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-18 01:35 [#01568680]
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That sounds like a good system to use. I never thought of
using winamp for filler tracks, that would work well, giving
me plenty of time to cue up the next track. I will try the
multiple song loading thing aswell, hopefully my cpu will
handle it.

Cheers for the advice :)


 


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