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I had to happen. The boring fucker has managed to produce a mature well conceived album that is most enjoyable. kétsarkú mozgalom is my current most liked. You can guess the album from the track name. |
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Fuck shit love Venetian Snares. |
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They are also a gang of stupid pricks even considering trying to compare snores with autechre...different sound, different vibe and snares has a long way to go before he could come close to matching ae. John Bush is a gobshite. |
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yeah i dont think hccbu sounds like autechre at all, except in the way that autechre is also electronic music with out fast breaks |
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Yeah John Bush fucked up spectacularly there. Critics and Autechre don't mix at all. Three stars for Confield etc. |
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Reading the reviews of Ae's work by Mr Bush is equally as shit. About Draft: "The record is immediately more compelling than Confield, with less focus on their trademarked random-beat-making software." Random beat making software? The fucker hasn't got a clue what he is writing about. That was the first and last time I will visit that site to see what opinions are held because it is obvious this John Bush character is totally ignorant about the subject he is supposed to be reviewing. |
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what you said about snares in your first post i said something similar earlier in the week. in fact ill probably buy it. |
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you cant compare vsnares with ae imo..they are both great..both exploring the univers in their ways..but maybe i'm just saying stupid things cause off alcohol % in blood |
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I like his new one as well. |
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wanna tell me confield isn't random ? |
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You are joking. |
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Confield is far removed from random. |
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really ? try to make me believe |
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proof it to me |
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Easy. Listen to the album, every track is very structured just applying different production techniques. Most of it is loop based but the loops are sometimes longer than you would expect and the DSP is used to great effect. I would find it difficult to prove something you don't want to beleive though. |
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this album is just to hm... weird for me... i mean i listen to everything - otto, devine, vsnares - so i can imagine i'm able to find patterns and structures in music... so many times i have heard that confield is great - vene the best album ever. - i tohught that i just can't get it. i tried it so many times - but after the 4 songs it's the end for me - and the intro is kinda anoying for me too. that's why i think that it is kinda overhyped and random - but i wouldn't argue with anyone that says something different |
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I know it sounds stupid but I think ae's music trades very much on emotion, they pack a lot of their own emotion into the tracks and if you don't get hooked on that then I can imagine it sounding very sterile. I think that is why I just don't see appeal in Snares music, nothing about it grabs me and yet many people see it as angst ridden genius. |
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Good Lord, I guess I'll have to listen to it. |
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ha ha |
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I bought the new snares on friday, its great. i really like it. I also really like confield. They are both fantastic albums. What is the big problem with DSP? The only problem with DSP is the 'make new track' button which any moron can press and out pops a track, except not every moron has done it, because there are not tons of 'DSP' tracks around, infact there are hardly any crap so called 'DSP' or 'random' tracks, let alone good ones, so this arguement is rubbish. Anyway, new Vsnares is absolutely brill. If you don't like vsnares give this a try, because it is in his style, but not so in your face, or dare I say random as before, you may well like it. |
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I like how some tracks on Confield take your attention away from the overall "storyboard" or timeline of the song and keep the focus upon the present moment in the track. That didn't make any sense at all, did it? |
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No I get what you are saying. Like how some songs have little drum changes to stop a 4 to the floor beat getting monotonous, only more so, in the case of confield, much more so. |
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No body was argueing here about the use of DSP to the extent of Confield being a good or bad thing. In fact I made the only reference to DSP in the topic and it wasn't from a conversation viewpoint. There is indeed a misconception that DSP is some sort of magical do all routine that magically creates tracks from nothing...a concept that is complete bullshit. Ae have used the off beat thing ever since flutter...it is a brilliant effect which if used too much is rubbish but used just right it is unsettling. |
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perhaps not in this thread, perhaps not yet, but that sort of nonsense always seems to pop up sooner or later. anyway I thought this was about the new snares not old ae??!? I like the track about the pigeons. :) |
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This new album is really poor, but I've explained why I think that in previous threads. I don't get the praise it is recieving, people who bashed Snares before all over it. Blah. This album is nowhere near as good as Doll Doll Doll, WITBOAS, Choc Wheelchair or even Find Candace. So if you love this album but dislike all of the aforementioned, I think you're a psychopath. |
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Oh, but track 3 is okay. |
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could you try to describe which emotions you feel in Confield's tracks? i'm curious, i find Autechre to be some of the coldest music i know... (sometimes beautiful, Vi Scose Poise for example, but far from conveying human emotions) |
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yeah, exactly ! |
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I will explain with a picture: |
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It really isn't that good. |
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As much as I enjoy listening to it, I don't feel connected to some of the tracks yet, and it has taken over a year to be able to get anything from it at all. Bine scares the shit out of me at high volumes though. |
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brokephones: haha, nice ^^ DJ Xammax: my most enjoyable listen was the first one, actually... i don't know why : ) |
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now nothing stands in the way of a healthy sex relationship between you and nacmat <3 nacmat and ecnadniarb, sitting a tree.. |
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