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offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-12 10:45 [#00086195]
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hi,

i recently discussed with some friends what rdj's impact on
music in general is.

i really believe, that in some years from now, rdj will be
fully regarded and acepted as contemporary composer. (like
phillip glass or kronos quartet)

it's funny to imagine people sitting in classic
concert-venues, listening to orchestral interpretations of
aphex-stuff.

what do you think will remain of aphextwin's music in 20, 30
or 50 years? will it become part of the heritage of
contemporary music, or will it just be played on oldie-radio
or webradiostations? "the greatest underground hits of the
90ies and 00ies" ??

?!

.a



 

offline nacmat on 2002-02-12 10:48 [#00086198]
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time is the only one that can tell
anyway if i go to the auditorium to listen to aphex music i
would like it to be the original... i mean no orchestra´s
reinterpretations (if so, made by him)


 

offline nacmat on 2002-02-12 10:56 [#00086202]
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now that we talk about future... when will we have another
new release by aphex? I have even heard that he is never
releasing again... but that cant be truth....IT CANT



 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-12 12:08 [#00086240]
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don't forget that rdj is a master in self-promoting. how
often did he say he wouldn't release new material?

maybe he won't release any new stuff on warp records. but
who cares? he'll release on rephlex....



 

offline big from lsg on 2002-02-12 13:06 [#00086250]
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i don't think it's going to be regarded as classical music,
i think it's just the avant-garde of dance, but maybe the
difference between these styles will fade and it''ll become
just classic but then not as a style


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-12 13:35 [#00086267]
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I just think hell fade away soon....


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-02-12 14:47 [#00086314]
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I think there's no way he'll be regarded as a contemporary
composer with his current body of work.


 

offline leftrightronic on 2002-02-12 16:15 [#00086402]
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your picture scares me, thx you


 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-12 16:30 [#00086416]
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but it's already a fact that rdj's music's concidered
important to contemporary (not really classic) music. and
frankly, most of the recent releases can't be classified as
dance-music.

.a


 

offline D-Hex from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-12 16:47 [#00086433]
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There really isnt many differences between beethoven and rdj
except for the advance in technology.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-02-12 16:51 [#00086435]
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Except for universal (well Western at least) appeal,
perhaps.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-12 17:00 [#00086444]
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I reckon he won't release under his old name on rephlex and
in a few years time it'll turn out that a 'new' rephlex
artist is actually him.

RE: Classical interpretations. I'd like to hear a classical
version of Mt. ST. Michaels mount!


 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-12 17:02 [#00086445]
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with every rephlex-release there are stupid rumours going
on. but hey, most of the rephlex-artists are real persons
;-)

.a


 

offline DirtyPriest from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2002-02-12 19:16 [#00086527]
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But why aphex exactly? if he´s respected in such a way,
some real geniuses we havent seen yet, will be in the shadow
of him.....


 

offline LionelCosgrove from Baden Württemberg (Germany) on 2002-02-12 19:58 [#00086586]
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i've heard that this is the last album on warp---somewhere i
heard he's planing to make a label together with
squarepusher...and this was in an interview with aphex.


 

offline joey from montréal (Canada) on 2002-02-12 20:04 [#00086589]
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I'm no musicologist. However, Aphex Twin strikes me as a
genius, as a lasting artist who will be highly regarded in
the future. I was reading a question and answer with the
musician for whom I hold the most respect - Pat Metheny -
and he thinks quite highly of Aphex Twin and Squarepusher.
This just confirmed my thoughts about Aphex. joey


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-02-13 00:27 [#00086939]
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i've always thought that aphex twin's catalogue of music is
the type of music that is meant to be studied in text books
50 years from now. i love certain groups/artists like nin,
radiohead, autechre, mogwai, etc. but i don't think they're
on the same level of originality and passion. i can't think
of anyone else who has come out since 1980 at the moment who
deserves to be in text books along the likes of beethoven
and chopin, and i listen to all types of music. hats off to
aphex for 17 years of creativity, and fuck the haters (you
know who you are).


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-02-13 00:40 [#00086951]
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Because of the way western society has evolved in the last
50 years, I think it highly unlikely that any single artist
will be remembered in the way Beethoven, Mozart etc.... are
today. Music has become so widely accessible and FAR more
people are in a position to be making music themselves and
can get their music heard. If everyone making music today
was limited to a sampler, some synths, and a few drum
machines (as classical composers were largly limited to
piano/violin etc) then indeed I think he would be remembered
for his ability. With so many genres and tastes out there
readily available to the public, I have a hard time
believing that aphextwin will ever be written about in text
books.


 

offline alienworkshop from Claymont (United States) on 2002-02-13 01:41 [#00087032]
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i think when he ripens in age, he will delve into eric
satie-style piano work more and more, it'll still be good,
keep your faith in rdj


 

offline dave from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-13 01:44 [#00087039]
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i think he will be a drunken werck and spending his days
chaseing little kids around with his come to daddy mask


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-13 01:50 [#00087050]
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there was a voting question on this wasn't there? I think
that he'll probably be remembered as Kraftwerk are now, an
innovator, and a highly influencial one at that...
especially with the increasing popularity of this music that
I think is inevitable with bands like Radiohead, and Nine
Inch Nails and stuff...


 

offline Xanatos from New York City (United States) on 2002-02-13 03:52 [#00087130]
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wow...I'll be old.


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-13 05:22 [#00087165]
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maybe be like Dave Bowie?


 

offline REFLEX from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-13 06:01 [#00087190]
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leftrightronic: wtf?


 

offline morpheme from Ninly, New York on 2002-02-13 06:45 [#00087214]
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Whether or not rdj's innovations will be codified and
catalogued in textbooks, I can say for sure that he has been
noticed and influential in various fields of contemporary
composition/performance. He has and will likely continue to
make a mark.

00ies, that's funny! How would you pronounce it?


 

offline andreas from an der Saar (Germany) on 2002-02-13 09:03 [#00087283]
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i dunno how to pronounce 00ies. how do you english speaking
guys call this decade?

.a


 

offline Fernz from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-13 14:05 [#00087410]
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ICCT Hedral.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-13 17:31 [#00087541]
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He reminds me of the Beatles... (here we go again)...
there's technically superior artists (Harrison was no
Hendrix, and Richard is no Jenkinson, musically), but their
creativity and range is so great... and they both evolved at
light speed. From A Hard Day's Night and Digeridoo, to
Because and Ziggomatic... they both went a long way,
musically. They're both chameleons, and everyone follows
their lead. You can't peg either of them to one style.

And they both have huge, bloated, criticized double
albums... well, I think Aphex will out out an Abbey Road
soon, a really perfect album... I can't wait.

One thing I hope they differ in is career length... I don't
want Aphex to quit for decades, and the Beatles were only
around for 6 or 7 years.

That makes me cry. :-(


 

offline nacmat on 2002-02-13 21:08 [#00087721]
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perfect post... nothing to add... just wanted to say that
agree totally and that i found the parallelism very good
(didnt find a better word)
i love that comparison of the two beggining and mature songs


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-02-13 21:18 [#00087738]
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Maybe a comparison to the Velvet Underground is more apt:
"they didn't sell very many records, but that everyone who
bought one of their albums went on to start a band."

Don't get me wrong, I think RDJ is really talented and a
creative genius, I just can't lump him in with the Beatles
and Beethoven.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-02-13 21:22 [#00087746]
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velvet are one of my favourites music groups


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-13 21:29 [#00087756]
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Oh no, RDJ is a LOT better than the VU. Velvet
Underground=OVERRATED. You can go through RDJ's career and
hear all these different stlyes and phases, hear his
development... the VU is pretty generic.

They're just... boring. I was so disapointed when I heard
all these underground guys talking about how brilliant Reed
was, and how the VU were the most important band ever... it
was so underwhelming hearing them at last, and just... blah.
This was shortly after I became a Beatlemaniac, and after
hearing all the fun, insane (sometimes lighthearted,
sometimes WEIRD) stuff the Beatles did... the VU was a real
anti-climax. I like them, and I'm a VU fan, BUT... they're
not all they're cracked up to be.

Whoops, didn't mean for my post to be about the VU...

Anyway... RDJ's broad catalogue is what reminds me of the
Beatles... every possible style you can think of. And he's
FUN! Squarepusher, Autechre, BOC... all sorely lacking FUN,
and the RDJ creativity. He's actually got a sense of humor,
like the Beatles. Not taking it seriously, you can tell.

Fuck the VU, RDJ has the creativity, the influence, the
talent, the dynamics, the fun, the people copying his every
move, and he's pretty popular... he's the Beatles of
electronics, I think.



 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2002-02-13 22:07 [#00087796]
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Let's just check back in 30 years ...


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-13 23:45 [#00087854]
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would RDJ still be active by that time? i heard that the
title "drukqs" itself indicates his conclusion to his Aphex
Twin project, since "druk" is from the Dutch "drukken",
meaning "to press" (correct me if i'm wrong), and "q" is for
"quit", but i don't know what the "s" is for.

i may be wrong, though. we'll just rely on the usual news &
press.


 

offline Kryocera from Plano, TX (United States) on 2002-02-13 23:54 [#00087868]
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hey joey, speaking of pat metheny, I get to see him in
Dallas like in a month.


 

offline Vader from € Lisbon, PT on 2002-02-13 23:54 [#00087869]
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Don´t have a clue mostly cause i believe if the aphex twin
project was still alive by then, i think RDJ would still be
improving humans creativity has no limites.


 

offline Taoist Blockade from Wales on 2002-02-13 23:54 [#00087870]
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You dont think BoC is fun Ophecks?
"Orange............Yeeeeeah..... Thats right" fun Fun FUN!
:)


 

offline Kryocera from Plano, TX (United States) on 2002-02-13 23:55 [#00087871]
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hey joey, speaking of pat metheny, I get to see him in
Dallas like in a month.


 

offline Zombiekev from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-14 00:08 [#00087888]
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i think he'll be an old man
a very old man indeed


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-02-14 00:31 [#00087908]
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actually he'll be a youthful 60/61


 


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