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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 15:39 [#01510141]
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yay (as in: good stuff)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-23 15:50 [#01510156]
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no.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 15:55 [#01510163]
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yay:1 nay:1 ooh, xciting times at xltronic
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 15:59 [#01510165]
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Big, no one gives a shit because:
If it's real, it's shit, boring, heard it all before "mad beats" party like it's 1999.
If it's fake, it's shitter, boring, heard it all before "mad beats" party like it's 1999.
Alright?
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-23 16:03 [#01510168]
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Poll McCartney
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-23 16:03 [#01510170]
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It is breaking my heart to read about this album here. :(
It went from being good, to being OK, to being worse than average, to being a crime against ears...all this and I still haven't listened to it yet. Not that I really trust anyones jusgement other than my own.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-23 16:10 [#01510182]
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you must update autechre.co.uk with untilted plight.
and oh i am reserving my vote for when i know fer sure that its autechre untilted that i am listening to, kthx
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 16:11 [#01510188]
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I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, but I was listening today to Advance and that album has SEX, BALLS, it makes you HORNY and DIRTY, plus it's "DIFFICULT" to keep the gaylords erect. This fucking "Untilted" mong-dirge wank is it / isn't it fan them, fan-boy reach-around horrible mess is just what is WRONG with music, WRONG!!!!!!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-23 16:13 [#01510193]
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Sit on the fence why don't you?
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 16:14 [#01510195]
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that's cheating :(
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 16:17 [#01510199]
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Ok, i think leak 1 is them and it's fucking horrible, even if i quite like a couple of the tracks I just don't want to hear any more music like this, it's just... not good. Fuck me, what is it with releasing 7 albums as the same band, do 2, if they'd done Incunabula and Amber, then classic, but no, limp on, become weirder/more cliched. Aaaaagggh. Just fucking shut up!
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-23 16:20 [#01510203]
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well i will give you two scenario's:
its not autechre untilted - i would say that it is a poorly ripped to mp3 bunch of 8 tracks.
its autechre untilted - i would say that it is a poorly ripped to mp3 version of untilted.
either way i would like to hear what the original edition sounds lilke - as ive listened to leak 1 many times.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-23 16:26 [#01510206]
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It's just good sound/beat fuckery for about 69 minutes.
Unlike Confield or Draft, which may you go "oooh" and "aaaah" and stuff, this is just like...uhhh.."there." It just "is".
YAH.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 16:26 [#01510208]
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come on Dan, you don't like how Autechre has developed and that really is all you have to say on the subject.
you try to bring it as if you really have a point that is more than just "I don't like it", but you don't and just about everything you say after that can then sadly be labeled as "BULLSHIT".
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 16:29 [#01510212]
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two yay then i understand now
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 16:38 [#01510221]
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You .. how dare you... frikkin... WHAT? Do I have to deconstruct this mess, do I have to say "Ok, the logical conclusion of all music is avant-garde jazz classical, because that's the only way you get taken seriously by your dwindling group of listeners, that get reduced to hardcore fruitcakes that would be happier listening to their teeth being drilled than any form of music that's (spit spit) enjoyable"? Fuck them, it isn't orginal, was it Alvin Toffler in dodgy book Future Shock said that people would listen to music that sounded like the factories the worked in, published in 1970? Ok, so people now work mainly with computers, congratulations, you've created an album that sounds like a system crash, YOU FUCKING SPECCY TWATS. Stop rimming the fanboys, stop hiding behind being "difficult" and release a fucking decent album you cliched Hoxton-appeasing nob-ends.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 16:46 [#01510235]
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im only taking yay's and nay's from now on, with the odd yah or yeay or so
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-23 16:53 [#01510243]
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oh, sorry
yay's and nay's
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-02-23 16:58 [#01510251]
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hmm, I might have to listen to the leak and see what all the fuss is about...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-23 17:02 [#01510255]
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i like it more than draft but much less than confield..usual autechre, no real difference to my ears..
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 17:03 [#01510257]
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autechre
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:10 [#01510264]
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Haha!! brilliant! I see what you mean but i feel music should be taken out of context sometimes.
it must be a pain when you can do what you like and have the opportunity to release albums when you want only to be reduced to i don't know what because of twat fans who wanna see a meaning and a logic in everything.
it's just tracks.
( i wanted to write more and be a little more detailed, but i can't explain myself too well, i feel like a sack of shit.)
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:13 [#01510270]
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Oh! i didn't mean you where the twat fan btw, i think you are far from being a twat (or a fan). :)
i meant the ones that make you a bit "upset" or something.
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disasemble
from United States on 2005-02-23 17:18 [#01510281]
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i hope you realize everything you retardedly stated in a maniacal fit, is in fact, cliched.
you sure showed them!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-23 17:19 [#01510283]
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haha, it seems to me that the people here who don't think of autechre that much, have more of a problem with hardcore fans than music itself :)
maybe it'll help if i just avoid those debates in the future and i'll be alright :D
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 17:24 [#01510291]
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hobbes (decent, proper name): Yes.
disasemble (techno IDM name): No.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:27 [#01510294]
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yeah
disasemble:it's his point, if you don't agree it's ok, it shouldn't be a problem you know....
personally the only bits that i thought were really unfair were:
"..the only way you get taken seriously.." bit and the "..stop hiding behind being difficult..." one.
dog_belch is one of the greatest posters around, and i think his comments are in a way healthy.... comunication is ace!!
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 17:31 [#01510298]
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I may have overstated the case, and fine, if this music isn't for me then, you know, leave it alone, some people do enjoy it so, let's... until I have anything worthwhile to say I'll shut up.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:37 [#01510308]
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i think you made some pretty good points though lately. i'm eating dates atm, but massive dates, not the shrinkled little dry shit i usualy get.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 17:40 [#01510311]
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i just shouted at some kids on the street, go figure (as they say in ....America).
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:42 [#01510313]
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i think i'm gonna gout and shout at a child.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 17:46 [#01510318]
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what the hell are you on about?
I said all you really have to say is "I don't like this music" and that's it. and that's fine. but you're trying to make it sound like there's more to it than that and I haven't seen any arguments that basically go beyond "I don't like it".
that you hate all the intelectualising and fanboyism surrounding this release - I'm with you on that one.
I think there are still quite a few people, like myself, who actually like this music. and not to say to other people "I like this music, I am cool" (to be frank, if you really would want to do that you'd have to come up with something a lot more obscure) or to read all kinds of semi-deep crap into it.
I either like what I hear or not. and I do this without context, which you seem a bit stuck onto (you always bring up context in discussions and the thing is - if I don't think it sounds good, the context could've been different when it was originally released, it doesn't change how it actually sounds to me).
it's not really any more complicated than that.
this kind of fits in a strange thing that happens in art - when someone doesn't like something an artist has made, people tend to make a problem out of this and then blame the artist for this (non-existant) problem. it's shifting the responsibility to the artist, while the audience has as much responsibility, if not more.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-23 17:49 [#01510324]
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do you like it?
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oyvinto
on 2005-02-23 17:51 [#01510325]
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it's all cx's fault
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 17:51 [#01510326]
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haven't heard it yet. :)
I decided to not listen to any mp3s, to only listen to the real thing.
no hype for me. :)
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 17:53 [#01510327]
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blimey you dind't half go on!
anyway i think we all understand each other (the elite i mean) and make this world a better place.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 17:58 [#01510330]
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I think I was entitled after Dan's mindless rant.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 17:58 [#01510332]
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I know what you mean, and you're a better man than i for rising above it, and I say that, you know, without being sarky... what is the problem... Context...you raise a good point.... I think, or perceive, that the music, say of Autechre, isn't genuine but relies on some kind of audience going "Wow, isn't this like, totally out there" wankduggery. Ok, I just don't like it... but why am I going on about it, I don't like Busted but don't feel compelled to bang on about it... but then Busted never made a decent record in their lives, and Autechre have made some of the best music ever.... I don't know, I'm too old maybe. I like Stockhausen, I like some electroacoustic stuff, why does Ae stick in my craw... maybe I should just say I like Autechre up to ep7 and then leave them to the guys that like Autechre only from ep7? Sorry everyone, I have, and i mean this, wasted your time.
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 17:58 [#01510333]
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i hope woof can help me with this poll...
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 18:00 [#01510337]
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i like dog_ for liking old ae :)
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-23 18:01 [#01510338]
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and i mean that as sincere as a hulatiger can be
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 18:01 [#01510339]
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your words have never wasted my time!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 18:02 [#01510340]
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I think a lot of it stems from the fanboyists constantly harping on how supposedly "intellectual" the music is.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 18:04 [#01510342]
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dude stop it!! am i invisible or something??
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 18:04 [#01510343]
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I wonder why I didn't just write "fanboys" but "fanboyists".
maybe the word "fanboyist" is better suited to ae-fanboys.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 18:05 [#01510344]
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fuck i said "dude".
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 18:05 [#01510345]
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what is the problem, my dear hobbes?
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-23 18:05 [#01510346]
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Ok, yes, that makes sense, so with that in mind, and I know everyone's past caring, but, for the record:
I like Ae and fair play to the lads for pushing the boat.
I fucking hate every single one of their fuckwitted, deluded fans. Apart from the lovely Phobiazero.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-02-23 18:06 [#01510347]
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HA HA
I was just thinking about that!
"hobbes said dude..!"
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-23 18:06 [#01510348]
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that "word" makes me think of keanu reeves.
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