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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:43 [#01493260]
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hey what's your favorite track on amber? and how about incunabula? piezo/windwind for me, these days.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-09 14:45 [#01493266]
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The exact same. :)
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 14:45 [#01493268]
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Let me think properly before making a reply as this is important.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-09 14:47 [#01493274]
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Ok i know i'm not dog_belch :) but i really felt like posting, i get so bored here.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:48 [#01493276]
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excellent!! =)
dog_belch ok excellent.
here's my official competition standing:
piezo further windwind teartear 444 eggshell foil yulquen
shit nevermind, that's a hard list to make
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:48 [#01493277]
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yeah this place can be tedious. especially with no trolls =(
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-09 14:50 [#01493282]
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basscadet for me..as for amber-i'd have to find the cd first but i don't remember particulary liking any songs there. i could be wrong though, since i didn't really like any autechre in the past. hmm. ohh.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:51 [#01493287]
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THIS THREAD IS FOR EVERYONE, OBVIOUSLY
DOG_BELCH IS A BETTER TITLE THAN "I LIKE AE, I'M A WANKER"
CAPS
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:51 [#01493290]
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hey when's the last time you put xmd5a on?
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big
from lsg on 2005-02-09 14:52 [#01493293]
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basscadet all the way
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 14:57 [#01493314]
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yeah it's pretty good, for some reason I didn't like it early on, coming to appreciate it somewhat though.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-09 14:59 [#01493321]
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i must say i agree.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:01 [#01493329]
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don't worry dear, I'm still here, and I'm just as belligerent as ever.
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a guest
from the visual field on 2005-02-09 15:01 [#01493331]
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piezo/eggshell
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:02 [#01493332]
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it's YOU! MY best friend! It's been so long. the eyes are indeed everywhere.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:04 [#01493333]
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i am not dogbelch but i will give an answer, amber and incuna not really big favs of mine, but will say:
basscadet / nil
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hobbes
from age on 2005-02-09 15:05 [#01493335]
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I've always had faith in you somehow. nearly.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:06 [#01493337]
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uh oh. Don't make me do something mean to deserve your generosity.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:07 [#01493340]
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damnit I was going to comment on nil but realized I had derailed my ae listening to check xmd5a.. oopssss
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-09 15:08 [#01493342]
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i listened to it yesterday infact..couldn't help not to when i read that thread about how much it suck.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:09 [#01493344]
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oh I tore some ass in that thread! One post only, but if it gets bumped again I'll go ballistic. I was banned when they made it, sorry for not giving proper defense =(
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:11 [#01493346]
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xmd5a, i cant get enough of this track, i ve only listened to the other track on analord 10 once, while this one ive listened to countless times - its a bloody aphex smudge. its got that great tableau thing going on with those classical piano chords, so much going on.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-09 15:11 [#01493347]
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haha, i think elusive did a pretty good job on that :)
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:12 [#01493348]
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The thing is fucking insane. It's easily the richest electronic track I've ever heard. I'd call him a genius just for it.
I really can't believe the detail and structure. There's just fucking shit everywhere in it. and I mean FUCKING SHIT
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:14 [#01493352]
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Why the first two Autechre albums are important: They have to be heard in context, appearing in 1993 and 1994, with the explosion of new electronica, Autechre had a very distinct sound. Ambient but not hippy or indulgent, hip hop but no bravado, electronica with a human heart. Incunabula, heard along with SAW 85-92, and the A.I. series like Black Dog's "Bytes" and B12's "Electro (Soma)" just made some kind of perfect sense, a perfectly realised accumulation of all past music and a map for the future.
Best tracks: Amber: Piezo: when it breaks down at about 2:50 and the background keyboard dominates, then the rhythm comes back slightly deflated, skitterish, until it goes again later leaving just the icy majesty of the chords/notes/sounds (I'm not musical) ... this is a lengthy track that doesn't outstay one nanosecond it's welcome, it goes on getting more minimal and yet more and more evocative. It's warm, it's simple, it's expansive, it's uniquely Autechre without the dry academic approach to "beats". It fucking rules. It's, to steal Black Dog's line, ambience with teeth. Followed up by the perfect accompniament Nine, another honorable mention must go to Yulquen and that I wish the album started with Montreal.
Incunabula: Where to begin, all of it, apart from Lowind which doesn't fit, is just unique, genius, spine-tingling, legendary, pioneering electronic music. What's not to like about it? But again, if you like Autechre but don't like this then you have to understand you're not listening to it in context. I'd hate to hear Draft and then go back to this, but Draft is the end of a journey that was started here. And I think they were happier at the begining then their rather bitter sounding arrival on planet Confield. Bike, Aut Riche, Basscadet, Maetl for fucks sake---- 444, 444 is the sound of ... the past living with the present and the future in the 21st Century, what the fuck is not to like about this alb
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:15 [#01493353]
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..album?
In summary: Incunabula: 444 Amber: Piezo
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:16 [#01493355]
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do you like any of the lego feet stuff or earlier gescom, because it sounds very similar to incuna and amber, i am guessing you already heard it.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:18 [#01493356]
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holy shit professor, gimme a sec to read this
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-09 15:19 [#01493358]
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dog_belch, what is your current position on the problem of global warming?
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:24 [#01493362]
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DUDE YES, YES (hahaha sorry I'm being lamely emphatic today)
btw I like electro soma too; I highly recommend moonshine's 'united states of ambience 2' compilation.. I know another one in a similar vein which is superior, but harder to find..
but yeah when the strings dominate in piezo it's incredible. I just went to further to find similar portions and holy fuck it's great.
yeah 444 .. I've started liking kalpol introl too lately, which makes me happy because that was the only one I initiall didn't like.
When I purchased it, incunabula gave me more joy than almost any other CD purchase, maybe with the exception of surfing on sine waves.
Damn that was a great period of time; 1.3 years ago when I'd never heard autechre and I just blasted through the whole discography.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:25 [#01493367]
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I have high faith (and of course some worries) in the next album. I feel they've been on a path since amber to really get a unique sound for themselves, and they're really settling on something now. ORRrr I'm just being gay, wishful thinking.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:26 [#01493368]
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speaking of classics, i put on aphex's surfing... the other day as my kids took a nap in the van.... thats some relaxing stuff - i love portreath harbour, but all of the tracks are great, its got a great feeling to it, kind of innocent but dancy / just plain luchiously great music, sometimes it can border on repetetive but i like that as well, sometimes.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:29 [#01493375]
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mrgypsum: To be honest, i never heard Legofeet, which kind of puts a big hole in my self proclaimed position of having an authority on early Autechre. And anything of Gescom leaves me cold, but again, i haven't bought any and I never heard it. What a complete shit I am. I'm kind of saving it for the future to be honest.
earthleakage: Well, in this part of the world, I am completely exposed to the suns cancerous rays without Gaia's shield of plankton or whatever. And I fucking love it.
Sneak-O I'm very happy that you're happy and that you have realised that early Autechre is to be enjoyed, not shuned and poo-poo'ed.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:30 [#01493376]
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yeah, it's not as intense as say drukqs or come to daddy, but the stuff after 'if it really is me' is all the highest quality music in my estimation IMHOTEPSSSS
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:32 [#01493378]
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portreath harbour is one of RDJ's crowning achievements, just... that track has the unquantifiable elements that equal genius. And it wasn't even on the original release! What the fuck is that man thinking about!?
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:34 [#01493381]
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I had trouble with the two added tracks, mostly because the rest is molded into my body, but yeah I'm crazy about them now. I don't think it's one of his very very best tracks (say, top five), but I definitely love it. He has one wicked sense of rhythm, holy shit the interplay.
and damnit can no one use claps like that. FANBOYing
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-09 15:35 [#01493382]
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you guys are intense.
I have only heard ep5 (or 7, i cant remember) and draft and confield.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:37 [#01493386]
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hey dog_belch, xtal and tha are two of your favorite rdj tracks, yeah?
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:41 [#01493394]
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i have a dirtly little secret, SAW 1 is just ok for me, hedphlem and xtal however are masterpieces, but the rest is just eh, anything after that i am 100% fanboy to, and you all know my opinions on ae so that settles that.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:43 [#01493397]
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schottkey 7th path, heliosphan, and pulsewidth are great too!
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 15:47 [#01493404]
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actually i never warmed to the caustic window stuff, oh well...
sneak, yess i like all of the tracks, but some didnt warrent the masterpiece status that xtal and headphlem did - i guess he spoiled me to early, ptolemy is very good also.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:49 [#01493411]
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yeah
tits
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:49 [#01493412]
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You have correclty surmised that, indeed, xtal and tha, played in sequence, represent, for me, the pinnacle of electronic music. They, for me, leave little or nothing to be said about anything ever, just... listen.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 15:51 [#01493416]
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hehe I didn't guess anything, I just remember you mentioning it once and was surprised because at that time I didn't think much of saw1.
dude 10 analords? There will be some gems (I hope, fuck).
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-09 15:58 [#01493428]
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I hope so, i mean, if you listen to Analords 01 and 02 alongside SAW 85-92, they do sound kind of like a likeness. I don't know if they are old tracks, or old tracks re-done, but, i think one has to remember the subtlety of the early releases when appreciating Analord, because i think that's where, at least as far as 01 and 02 are concerned, they're from.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 16:02 [#01493434]
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I dunnnooooooo he sounds a little bored, a little tired in analord 1 and 2 =( he's not loving fucking around as much in those..
who knows. I think he made himself produce a 10 vinyl series to get his lazy ass in gear; no idea how successful it will be.
I've started to recently appreciate drukqs.
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 16:02 [#01493436]
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yeah my english sucks =(
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mrgypsum
on 2005-02-09 16:06 [#01493442]
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analord 1 is my fav so far
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sneakattack
on 2005-02-09 16:06 [#01493444]
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hmmmmmmmmm really? that's the one I can't really listen to. oh well.
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nacmat
on 2005-02-09 16:19 [#01493462]
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kalpol introl+bike
nine
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