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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:25 [#01464226]
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Hi,
Don't know if MTV in the States is this way too, but...
Can anyone explain why MTV (Northern European version) plays roughly the same 20 videos a day? There's so much else they could play!!! Is this a naive question? I really believe that people want to see more than what's on. I'd say every hour they throw in a different video for good measure.
Anyone know what's up?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-01-17 17:26 [#01464227]
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mtv has pretty much sucked for quite a while now, i think.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 17:28 [#01464231]
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we're getting our own mtv this year!! really excited about this, i might even apply for a job.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:35 [#01464242]
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Were you in Latvia? Sorry if I don't remember. So, you getting the real-deal MTV?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 17:37 [#01464244]
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that's what they telly me. (not latvia, slovenia, but apperantly it's going to be a south-east european version of mtv).
i was kidding about being excited, and i was kidding even more about the job thing, sorry.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:37 [#01464246]
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epohs: That would answer everything.
Here's the list as per memory: Gwen Stefani - Whatcha waitin for? Kylie Minogue - ... 411 - (nice grainy black and white video in a club) Roots Manuva - (Collasal Something or other) Beastie Boys - Letter to NY (or something like that) John Legend - Used to Love U Eminem - Toy Soldiers Feeder - (some black and white video) Blue - (the one that starts off with a phone off the hook) Britney Spears - My Perrogative Nas - Bridging the Gap The Music - black and white negative effect Destiny's Child - (the one where they are battling a different version of themselves in an alley)
JayZ and Linkin Park - (Some live song) Scissor Sisters - (on a stage somewhere with dancing scissors)
How many is that. Maybe there are a couple I'm forgetting.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-17 17:40 [#01464249]
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so you're from the Toronto in Sweden then?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-01-17 17:40 [#01464251]
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haven't seen mtv for 15 months (and i only watched it for couple of hours those 15 months ago :)
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:40 [#01464252]
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Would it be soooo expensive to run a station that plays a given video only once per day? I swear the world needs something like that, or better yet, maybe iTunes will increase their video selection and there won't be a need for MTV.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-01-17 17:40 [#01464253]
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MTV sorta stopped being about music, and started being about the most retarded aspects of pop culture (including a little music related stuff) sometime in the early/mid 90s i think.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-17 17:43 [#01464258]
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yes.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:43 [#01464259]
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qrter: I'm visiting family in Istanbul at the moment. It's been raining since I've been here, so I've been checking out videos on MTV among other things.
Ashlee Simpson - La La La Avril Lavigne - (the one with her all dolled up, intercut with her living on the street)
Is there actually a Toronto in Sweden, like a mirror in case the other Toronto goes down?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-17 17:46 [#01464263]
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I have no idea.
anyway, MTV is a corporation, they care about money in the first place.
so that means the more popular stuff wins.
MTV wasn't always as shit, I might add and also there are worse things - MTV owns a second channel in the Netherlands, called The Music Factory (or TMF), which is even more disgusting.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2005-01-17 17:52 [#01464268]
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The problem with MTV is shown in it's name. Music Television. Music should really have nothing to do with television.
Music should be held on it's own for the most part. The idea of putting audio and video together is interesting but leads to cliches one after another and takes ultimately takes time away from the music itself.
Epohs was quite right too about when MTV abandoned music videos for the most part and went cultural, if you can consider that culture without vomiting for hours.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:52 [#01464270]
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yeah, it's a corporation and, you know, I would think there'd be money in offering a diverse, non-repetitive product because it'd be better than what's on now.
Any good places online to watch a wide selection videos?
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ka
on 2005-01-17 17:56 [#01464274]
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you've got to admit though, barring the usual cliches, marrying music and video together leads to some interesting visuals you don't really get to see anywhere else. You'd never really see stuff like that in a movie theatre or even an art gallery.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-17 18:16 [#01464289]
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so right, thecurbcreeper. When do we get Richard and Cunningham? Almost never. It is all cliches and canned junk.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 18:33 [#01464315]
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There should be a site that caters to hosting IDM videos. Then maybe more could of those videos could be made. Hey, maybe I'll do it. Does that sound cool?
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ka
on 2005-01-17 18:36 [#01464318]
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Wait, is xltronic supposed to do that eventually?
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-01-17 18:52 [#01464336]
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not to mention the commercials, they are the same each 15 minutes
I still miss the Chilloutzone, that used to be on every saturdaynight from 3:00-5:00 here in Holland
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-17 18:58 [#01464352]
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Actually, to be fair. I do like an hour long show on mtv2 called subterranean. I would support a subterranean channel.
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corrupted-girl
on 2005-01-17 19:00 [#01464357]
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i dont have MTV, or really watch TV at all.. but i remember muchmusic was similar to that kinda repetition.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-01-17 19:06 [#01464365]
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isn't this what mtv2 was supposed to be
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-17 19:10 [#01464372]
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welcome to American MTV circa 1990.
MTV, music television
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-01-17 19:19 [#01464394]
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yeah, I thought I was going to get subterranean type programming all day with mtv2. Not so.
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ka
on 2005-01-17 21:35 [#01464534]
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I had MTV2 in Canada and I think it played mostly Hip Hop/R&B.
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