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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 12:00 [#01446354]
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okay... i searched for something like this for i don't know how long, some neat vst, maybe emulated hardware synth that makes really crunchy, fat basses...
like for example in sp's fat controller...
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-01-05 12:02 [#01446357]
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pump pump pump pump it up!
that song is great. :D
i'm getting so tired of using software for music production. i need to get a good midi setup so i can finally use my microkorg to full capacity. currently i'm sampling the sounds and sequencing them.
what kind of vst's do you currently use? i'm looking to start using a few more.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-01-05 12:03 [#01446359]
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Flanger.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 12:05 [#01446361]
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v-station is the best one... about 20 megs - fully controlable, analog sounds... just great.
it's my absolute top favourite synth !!
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-05 12:31 [#01446396]
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Its all about layers baby!
Several Different Raw tones + offset frequencies = booooooooooooo
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 13:26 [#01446471]
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v-station is ok.
I like micromoog and minimoog... they got a phat ass sound.
Somejerk; if you get a midi to usb addapter, you can use your korg with a standard usb port. It also lets you edit the synthesis matrix on your computer instead of trying to float around 5 knobs! It should only cost 50$ us for one of these contraptoins (altho I am not sure about latency and all that jazz)!
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 13:41 [#01446501]
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is it one of the reaktor session ones ??
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-01-05 13:43 [#01446510]
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i actually bought one of those, but i had problems getting rid of the delay between the computer and the keyboard. someone told me that i need to adjust the midi time clock, but i wasn't able to get it to work. thanks for the suggestion though! i think i'm going to save up and buy a decent midi-mixer type of thing that has regular/analog inputs, for my bass amp, keyboard, etc. i like to play in 'real-time', and having to make music with a mouse is debilatating.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 13:52 [#01446533]
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fucking right... !!
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-01-05 13:57 [#01446542]
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i need to setup anonymous ftp on my webspace so we can start some sort of a VST exchange thing. i think that would help a lot of people.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 14:07 [#01446557]
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Soulseek isn't good enough? Just share your vst's in a directory only accesible to people on your list.
I am going to make a soulseek directory to that effect.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 14:08 [#01446559]
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i have 50 megs if you want
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 14:09 [#01446563]
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oh and btw... - why sharing when there are sites like THIS one
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 14:19 [#01446577]
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That site was alright...
Although its prolly not best to be posting links to warez sites...
I like the russian text :)
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 14:23 [#01446589]
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it wouldn't be alright if i would post a link to the biggest warez site on earth - google.com
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 14:28 [#01446599]
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Heh... yeah. Your right. I downloaded the best crack of reaktor of that site the other day...
I works just as advertised. :P
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-05 14:32 [#01446613]
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i just did a track which has quite a fat bass sound in it. you can get the vsti here
you can also create fat sounds with the use of compressing, stereo detuning, making a very short delay on one channel, phase inversion, eq etc...
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 14:38 [#01446634]
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explain
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 14:48 [#01446654]
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Well, if you invert one of the sterio channels, and then offset it slightly (like, one or two millaseconds) it will make the sound appear much louder, or fuller, without making the audio clip. Use this trick for the force of good, and not evil. Best for bass or drum tracks.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-01-05 15:09 [#01446682]
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wow - thanks ! have to try it out !!
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-05 19:50 [#01447064]
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VST Instruments | Windows (Not Made With SynthEdit)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 20:02 [#01447073]
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Also, check out some of arturia's classic analogue synth vst's. The ones I have played with; cs80v, minimoog, moog modular are totaly classy. They sound good, they look decent, and they are relatively easy to use. And the bass is rich. They Arp2600 is comming out, and I am looking forward to getting my hands on it.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 20:10 [#01447083]
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Damn... there are way too many vst synths out there...
I just got into the whole "software collect and archive" mindset the other day, and am getting intimidated again. This is why I cut my internet connection last time... never working on anything... downloading way too much stuff... research research...
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-05 21:58 [#01447139]
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moog modular
korg legacy collection
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-05 23:34 [#01447211]
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Heh... I just loaded that onto the computer today. The controller that its sold with is some hot shit...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2005-01-05 23:43 [#01447215]
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The WASP synth in FruityLoops is capable of churning out some pretty fat sounds I think. That's my favorite synth on there anyway.
I hate to admit it, but I pretty much only use software at the moment.
If you go to Vintage Synth Explorer, you will come across a fine array of "fat" synths I'm sure. Very reliable site I think, for audio samples, reviews, and lists of artists that use a particular synth are provided.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-01-06 07:27 [#01447436]
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moof modular or the legacy collection?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-06 08:16 [#01447546]
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He's right-
The classic is 2 oscillators, one an octave lower than the other. I like layering two synths with the same patch, then slightly detune/out of phase one synth.
So, you have 2 slightly different ones at 2 different octaves.
EQing and compression are important too. Don't fall into cutting the cutting the high freqs out entirely, it can make the bass sound a bit muted and lifeless. As well as sititng "murkily" in a mix.
Squares and Sawtooth are classic bass wave shapes.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-06 09:56 [#01447729]
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Why not Create harmonics to fill your sound out,
If you play a chord and hit all the keys at an equal velocity it sounds like a chord. To create a harmonic lower the volume as you increase the frequency (you can see this in the image i posted above.)
It begins to sound less like several notes/tones and more like a single dense texture.
Ceri knows his stuff: dont be tempted to roll off the top frequencies and overboost the bottom end, this is a mistake i always used to make, the track ends up drowning in low frequency. To boost the overall track volume try a master limiter on your stereo output.
There are some excellent free plugins here
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-01-07 04:41 [#01448756]
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basstation is certainly cheaper than v-station and it is extremly phat!!!
endless hours of fun & heavy bass yesterday with it and my ms-20, until the comp crashed... :((((((
albino is also extremly good sounding and phat.
but the best plug-in is still the vintage warmer by psp audioware, with it you can phatten-up any sounds you want, got a cheap and unpowerful sound? put it thru the warmer and gently(or agressively) compress and overdrive it, plus eq and voila! instant powerful drums, phat bass, piercing hi-hats or warm voice, you name it and it does it with amazing quality/presence.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-01-07 05:26 [#01448780]
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Yes, Vintage Warmer gets my vote as "best software compressor, ever".
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-07 05:42 [#01448789]
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Novation KS4 is an incredible hardware synth for the price.... microkorg pah!!!.... shite them is (used to own one), considering you can get a KS4 for around the same price as a micro second hand. The KS4 will kick synths in a much higher price bracket.... I'm not sure if they sell them new anymore but i bought mine for about 250 pounds around a year ago & its a beast.
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