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offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 16:34 [#01442641]
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Have you ever pissed into a plastic bottle...screwed the
lid on it and then watched as slowely the sides of the
bottle are pulled inwards as a mini vacuum is formed?

Anyone know why this happens?



 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2005-01-02 16:36 [#01442643]
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ahahah are you serious?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 16:38 [#01442644]
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Just finished a bottle of cheap nasty cider I found in my
mates fridge and can't be arsed standing up to go to the
toilet. In conclusion...Yes...yes I am.


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 16:38 [#01442646]
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New Scientist magazine has a section for this sort of thing.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 16:39 [#01442650]
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Really? Saves writing into the BMA.


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 16:42 [#01442652]
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It's probably something to do with warm air from the piss
rising to fill the rest of the bottle as it's first sealed,
then as it cools it contracts, pulling the bottle a bit with
it.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 16:43 [#01442654]
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Urine's a liquid, sure, but there's lots of stuff in it that
readily forms a solid (hence kidney stones, bladder stones,
etc. in all animals which have bladders and kidneys). I'd
guess that, as the temperature drops, some things condense
on a very tiny scale. It's probably invisible because the
mixture is good and that's why we don't normally get stones.
Most people are equipped with a microscope on the underside
of their tongue; if you pour some of this into your mouth
you may be able to witness the transformation..


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 16:44 [#01442655]
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OK I have stood the bottle next to the fire to see whether
it expands again. It's like being back in science class.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 16:45 [#01442656]
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there's no way just temperature expansion could account for
a great change. I'd be more inclined to believing something
chemical happens..

WHERE THE FUCK IS JEROEN, oh well he's sleeping, maybe he
can explain in the morning, or we can use the internet.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 16:46 [#01442658]
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this is awesome.

Some of the shit that condensed may not happily go back to
liquid state, so maybe it won't expand again.

fuck, gotta think up many defenses to my wrong statements


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 16:47 [#01442660]
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The variables are too many to conclude this one way or the
other. Further experimentation is definitely required.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 16:49 [#01442662]
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Seriously, i have around 40-odd 3 litre cider-bottles of
piss stored in my garage*. And yes, i have noticed this
effect. I think it's something to do with the warmth, it
happens when you put hot water in there too.

*art project


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 16:51 [#01442665]
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Art project...haha I will have to use that for the body
parts stored in my freezer.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 16:51 [#01442667]
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*art project

that made me fall over laughing..! :D :D :D


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 16:53 [#01442668]
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Please, don't laugh at my Important Work.


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 16:55 [#01442671]
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For future "art works"


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 16:55 [#01442673]
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I now have an image of you standing in the middle of your
room pissing in an empty bottle, someone walking in.

"Important Work! Important Work, damn you"


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 16:57 [#01442674]
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into an empty bottle, even.

doing this inside a huge empty bottle can be a bit too arty.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 17:02 [#01442681]
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"Bull Elk in Rut" shall now be the title of my
piece.

It's actually a conundrum, this one. I started doing it as a
lazy, drunken necessity whilst sat in front of the computer,
but had to turn it into a Project so i could feel better
about myself. And now i've got a load of months-old piss in
the garage.

Such is the existential torment that we artists must bear.


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 17:07 [#01442690]
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I remember years ago when I was a kid I pissed into a some
old pot in the back garden, and then a friend of my brother
who was round at the time did the same. The next day there
was a perfectly circular layer of material (like linen or
wool) covering the top. Obviously now I know there was this
material lining the bottom of the pot and it had risen in
the night, but for years after I thought that if you combine
two people's piss you get cloth, and I'd discovered
something amazing.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 17:09 [#01442692]
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b7


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-01-02 17:09 [#01442693]
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try putting hot water into a bottle and see what happens


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 17:10 [#01442695]
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heh.

so that's why you had to flush the toilet after you
went!


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 17:10 [#01442696]
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sorry the temptation was infinite. Anyway yeah like I said
there's weird stuff in urine. The most interesting thing
I've learned in the past month (I learned that I'm a wanker
but that's not interesting) is that bird shit is white due
to chemicals which we have in our urine, and they don't
piss, so.. fierce stuff in there


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 17:11 [#01442697]
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HAHAHA! Like alchemy, only better.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 17:13 [#01442700]
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I can vouch for there being some truly unpleasant chemistry
in piss. Never, Ever open an old bottle of the stuff
and take a whiff. It makes you want to fall right the
fuck
over.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 17:16 [#01442702]
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you just couldn't let it lie, could you?

you saw the bottle, had a bit to drink and you just had to
do it..


 

offline xceque on 2005-01-02 17:19 [#01442707]
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Before you know it he'll be emptying bottles into the font
at church and dipping grandpa's Werther Originals in the
stuff. Shameless.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2005-01-02 17:20 [#01442708]
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It's like you're inside my head being all psychic and shit.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-02 17:24 [#01442713]
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why do people pee in a bottle?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 17:26 [#01442715]
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otherwise it stinks up the place, ofcourse.

are you MENTAL!?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-02 17:27 [#01442716]
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right..i forgot about the smell.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 17:33 [#01442725]
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my GOD man.. you must smell AWFUL!


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 17:34 [#01442726]
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I heard a stupid trick of freezing piss in a frisbee and
then cracking it out and sliding it under someone's door.
So much work and you fuck a frisbee (ha) in the process.
A+++ insightful will read again


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2005-01-02 17:35 [#01442727]
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yeah...people complain sometimes..i don't smell anything
though so im ok with it.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2005-01-02 17:35 [#01442728]
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Piss is a good anticeptic. Apparently if you are stung or
something and have no medical supplies if you piss on the
wound it helps.


 

offline sneakattack on 2005-01-02 17:39 [#01442729]
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dude I'm going to start depending on that from this second.
"Honestly, I pissed on you to save your life!"


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2005-01-02 17:41 [#01442730]
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it kills the bacteria on your feet if you piss in the shower


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2005-01-02 17:43 [#01442734]
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Because the piss is hot, it is less dense and has a greater
volume than when it is at room temperature. Hence when it
cools the total volume inside the bottle is less and since
it is a sealed container the sides of the bottle are pulled
inwards.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-01-02 18:40 [#01442789]
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i'm pretty sure you can get a foot fungus from that.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-01-02 18:44 [#01442795]
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that's why my cock is clogged with fungi.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2005-01-02 18:52 [#01442800]
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DAMN YOU qrter!!

ok i wasn't exactly right, but neither was nigel.

internet


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-03 01:19 [#01443027]
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piss heats air, hot air cools off, occupying less volume ->
bottle shrinks

im sure ive repeated everyone else in this thread.



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-03 01:21 [#01443028]
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try pouring hot water from the tap in a plastic bottle.
screw the lid on, wait, ooooooh amazing!


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-03 01:23 [#01443029]
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okay ive decided to read the tread, i think xceque was
right. if you're doing the dishes and you put a hot glass
upside down on a wet kitchen table, you can see small
bubbles form around the edges of the glass. its the air
changing temperature and thus changing volume.

p*V = n*R*T


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-03 01:26 [#01443031]
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id include pointless diagrams from some book but i cant
readily find them and my train is leaving in 1 hour

RUKSPOKEN BUNGALOW PARK HERE I COME


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2005-01-03 01:27 [#01443032]
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HRA HRA HRA PENTUPLE POSTING

RUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKSPPPPPPPPPOOKKKKKEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!


 


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