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i'm very interrested to know how boc used to make the track A is to B as B is to C and some others also. so do any of you have experience with making music from eqations? |
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i listen to mathematically correct music exclusivly. |
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here's one of many softwares for making fractal music...i just found it |
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i've experimented heavily with fractal music programs. some of them can yield excellent results. it really just takes a lot of learning the program and tweaking all the parameters to get a good sound... |
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shouldbe fun making an release out of equations |
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yeah, i have found FractMus to work very well. i recommend that one. |
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oh,i didn't know you are into those things man...i think we have more in common now. hop on slsk in about 4 hours..i'll be done with my radioshow then and you could resume the dl of tracks. |
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no i can't :( i'm not at home. i'll be back on tuesday and i can download them then. but yeah, i have made full albums using both fractal and random processes. |
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dlin it now...i think that spirotune should be fun also,but you need to email the programmer for a licence file. it all started when i decided to listen to boards of canada last night. |
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i've spent a long time staring into the screen watching milkdrop out of my head |
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wow...i want to hear those! you've gone to your parents? |
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what does that sound like? |
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it's a winamp plug-in that produces pre-programmed fractals while you listen to your music |
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in fact it was so popular that it now comes with it built in |
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oh, i'm familiar with that one... hahah... i thought you were just joking like, "i watch the milk drop out of my head" or some nonsense. |
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haha, you crazy man! i did see water coming out of my arm like a watering can once a long long time ago... |
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hahah |
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I made a "fractal" track longish ago called "a fractal brewing of fraggles" at soundclick.com under "wmw", only based on scaling symmetry rather than the bizarre equation mandelbroit shitamajig they do, usually with melodies. I bought this album called "organized chaos" and it totally sucked. Another is robert rich which is fairly ok. Forrest fang is pretty boring too. They are some of the biggest names in fractal music from what I've read.. yet what they've made is absolutely nothing compared to say otto von schirach from schematic. |
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Also a big problem using fractals in music is the nature of composing sound in time, which can be considered 1 dimensional for the most part. A fractal on paper can spread out horizontally and vertically.. plus it is visual.. and the nature of vision is to be able to see the entire thing all at once. With sound, the larger scales of symmetry must be slowly pieced together one unit at a time if distance between units is used as the scale. It ends up just sounding random because you can't "hear it all at once" like you can with vision. |
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interresting...and what did you exactly use to make that trakc? |
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Fractals are too large to compress into an audio stream. You usually get all noise or an incomplete fractal. |
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noise? |
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If I remember I used scaling symmetry in two different ways. 1) I made a melody (chromatic- using all keys if that's the right word) something like notes... c, f, g#,(X)... the x being the 4th time step with no note, then I spread this out to 2wice the scale: c, (x), (x), (x), f, etc.. then used the original melody cfg#x for each note.. raising or lowering for higher or lower start notes respectively... ie., starting at f above, it would be f, a#, c#, (x) Then I did it for one more scale.. then I made a wav out of it. Then the second part of the scaling symmetry was to play 3 octaves of it at the same time (each being a different scale of the same thing exactly 2wice as large as the last) I made another track that uses scales of 3x instead of 2x though in the track "telefon tel telashmix 2" also at soundclick "wmw". |
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posting a link would be quite pleasing! |
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Just to show what the large time spans do to make it suck.. the only logical way to do the last (x), ie empty noteless time unit, of the original melody is to have all it's smaller scales empty too. So you end up with a huge gap of empty time 16 units long or more, doubling larger depending on how many times you increase the scale, and how long the original melody is. There's not one single way to apply scaling symmetry to music, so just be creative. |
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If you have to register or something, soundclick sucks. |
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i enjoyed reading your posts...such a professor manner! |
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