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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425416]
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TORONTO (AP) -- The NHL was set to make a new proposal to locked-out players on Tuesday that could hopelessly stall labor negotiations if the offer included a salary cap.
The sides resumed talks at 1 p.m. EST with the league reportedly poised to reject the latest offer by the union, which featured a 24-percent salary rollback but no linkage between revenues and player salaries, which the union deems a salary cap and unacceptable.
The Canadian sports television network TSN reported Monday that NHL executive vice president Bill Daly told the 30 team owners the league will turn down the union's offer made last week. TSN cited a memo from Daly to the owners.
``While the immediate 'rollback' of 24 percent offered by the union would materially improve league economics for the 2004-05 season, there is virtually nothing in the union's proposal that would prevent the dollars 'saved' from being redirected right back into the player compensation system, such that the league's overall financial losses would approach current levels in only a matter of a couple of years,'' Daly said in Sunday's memo.
The league wants cost certainty, a system that will provide a direct link between revenues and player costs. The players' association might quickly break off talks if the NHL's proposal includes that.
If that happens, the NHL will be closer to becoming the first North American sports league to lose an entire season to a labor dispute. There might be a month left to salvage to the season. The last NHL lockout ended with a deal on Jan. 11, 1995, allowing for a 48-game season to be played.
But the sides might be too far apart to get a season in this time. The memo obtained by TSN ``cynically'' questioned the motives of the NHLPA's salary rollback offer.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425417]
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*vomits from hockey overload*
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:47 [#01425418]
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``We believe the Union's offer was more about trying to unify the players and ensure player solidarity with what they would perceive as a very substantial proposal than it was about making a good faith effort to reach agreement with us,'' Daly reportedly wrote.
The players' proposal also contained a luxury tax, a revenue sharing plan, a lower cap on entry-level contracts and bonuses, and an offer to allow teams to take players to arbitration.
The NHL hasn't given the players' association an offer since July 21, when it presented six possible concepts to provide a framework for the league's first new collective bargaining agreement in a decade.
All six were formally rejected by the players on Aug. 17, and negotiations that followed over the next month failed to move the sides any closer to resolving the philosophical difference of a salary cap.
Talks broke off Sept. 9 when owners turned down an offer, and the lockout -- in its 90th day -- was imposed a week later by commissioner Gary Bettman. Players and owners stayed apart from early September until last Thursday.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:48 [#01425420]
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J,
I cant believe they are killing this for me. These guys are sorely under paid.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-14 13:49 [#01425422]
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i heard that opheckses team is going to lose this year..
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:51 [#01425426]
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I was hoping for the Maple Leafs all the way.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-12-14 13:54 [#01425432]
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I've resigned myself to the fact (I think) that there will be no NHL this year. I've been following the AHL and Sidney Crosby's progress in the QMJHL to make up for it... it's not the same, but I'm so pissed off at the NHLPA (and the owners, to a lesser extent), that I'm pretty indifferent now.
Kind of related, did you hear about EA buying out the NFL license last night? Now Sega Sports won't be able to put out their superior football games. Worst day in the history of video gaming, some say. Really sad state of affairs.
Money money money money money money, everywhere, always.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-12-14 13:57 [#01425439]
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No more 2k????? omg. YOU CANNOT B SERIOS!
Vomits.
How are my admirals doing? I havent seen one game or heard about it.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-12-14 14:07 [#01425458]
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video games are better than the nhl anyway
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-12-15 22:50 [#01427261]
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petition
i'm actually thinking of getting nhl2k5 this weekend.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-12-16 09:06 [#01427552]
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bah, hockey sucks... the greedy players can kiss my hairy ass!!
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coyote
from NY (Canada) on 2004-12-16 10:55 [#01427635]
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Hockey is great, it's the NHL that sucks
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-12-16 11:49 [#01427705]
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It's pointless, it won't make any money for the NFL. I think everybody that's disgusted and realizes how bad this is has to make a conscious decision to never buy an EA title again... and if you HAVE to play Madden or the new Time Splitters, pirate it.
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