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i'm writing a test tomorrow about kafka
 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 08:31 [#01418147]
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anything u wanna tell me?


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 08:32 [#01418152]
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err.. how can I tell you anything new if I don't know what
you know?


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 08:33 [#01418153]
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just whatever comes to your mind


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-12-07 08:35 [#01418154]
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His books are fucking boring.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-07 08:36 [#01418155]
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you're kidding..surely??


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 08:37 [#01418156]
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errr..

that must be the swedish translation... they're just about
the only fiction books I've enjoyed reading! Lots of funny
shit! It all goes downhill!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 08:37 [#01418158]
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well.. do you want facts about the PERSON, or do you want
stuff to write about his books?


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-12-07 08:37 [#01418159]
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You are Wrong.


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 08:40 [#01418162]
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we're dealing with his PARABELS. and with the fact that all
of his parables deal with PARADOX situtations and
DEGRADATION of the protagonist.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-12-07 08:41 [#01418164]
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well im not being very fair since i have only read "The
Metamorphosis". But i did as Welt sugested and posted the
first thing that came to my mind haha!


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-07 08:41 [#01418165]
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kafka ruled.
one of his works i like most is.. Knock at Manor Gate -
short nightmare.

what else can be told? links? quite a lot of can be found..


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 08:41 [#01418166]
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in fact i feel prepared but maybe if you have some special
exceptional informations, post em!


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 08:48 [#01418173]
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oh.. then I can't help, I think... I've only read "the
triology" (the castle, the process and america), and I guess
those are not parabels... or are they?


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-12-07 08:51 [#01418175]
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Kafka is spelt with a "K"


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 08:54 [#01418179]
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these three novels are considered parabels. at least the
castle and the process.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-07 08:56 [#01418182]
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I wonder if Kafka himself knew that these three novels (at
least castle and process) he wrote are considered parabels.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-12-07 08:58 [#01418184]
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did you read amerika? maybe you should add some post-modern,
feminist and marxist theory in there for good measure. that
should pump up the grade even higher.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-12-07 08:59 [#01418187]
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oh..

I thought a parabel was a short story with morals or
something.. as these three are quite long.. wellwell.. I
should probably just update my english! hehe...

well.. then I guess your task isn't too hard... if you've
read the books, you should be more than able to discuss
it... just use the castle, for instance, where K is called
to do a job that doesn't exist, and that he's being dragged
further and further down into the dirt with every advance he
makes towards the castle.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-12-07 09:08 [#01418194]
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and i think the correct spelling is 'parable' if you want to
write it in your test and don't want grades docked for
spelling errors.

yeah, if i recall, the castle had some guy go to some castle
and everyone was being mean to him and the moral i got from
the story was 'don't trust people in castles b/c they can
screw you over - just like the system can screw you over. f*
the man.'

in amerika, karl rossmann moves to america and thinks it's a
wonderful, dreamland but it becomes some crazy drug-like
adventure. so the moral of this story was 'america is full
of screwed up people.'

in metamorphosis, the protagonist changes into a bug, and
his family sits in horror at him and he feels this hatred
toward them for being such unsupportive jerks. then if i
recall correctly, he dies and the family move out of the
house. so the moral of this story was 'dont get a disease
b/c noone will want you deal with you unless you are part of
a country w/ a good health care system.'

note: not to be taken too seriously, but has some cynical
truth to it all.


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 09:09 [#01418195]
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yeah, i won't be too hard since all of his parabels are
based upon the same pattern. the protagonist representing
mankind is trapped in a paradox situation, tries to get out
of it and reach an aim (that usually has to do with his
natural desires), but the more he struggles to get out of
his situation the worse it gets (degradation).

i was just thinking ..maybe if i post here i'll get some
"rare" information.


 

offline welt on 2004-12-07 09:09 [#01418196]
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since i write in german those spelling mistakes won't
matter.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2004-12-07 09:11 [#01418197]
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hmm.. maybe the protagonist is really a masochist and in
denial? :o


 


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