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looks awesome with the new features... |
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the only thing it lacks is vst support |
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and audio |
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you just named the two reasons why i'm sticking with cubase. well actually there is a 3rd reason, cubase has a much better sequencer. |
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And VSTi support |
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that was one of the two reasons |
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and audio |
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fuck vst's, this is sweet. |
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reason is so limited without vsts. we get two synths, one drum machine,one sampler, dr rex loop thingy, and a bunch of effects, and that's it. can't even record audio! that suxxx. with vsts compatible hosts: you can put in unlimited amount of synths, effects, drum machines, samplers, you name it! |
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Well theres always rewire.... its pretty easy to use reason to generate what you need, then move it into something like cubase to compliment your existing instruments. But yeh, its a shame VSTi support is never likely to happen in reason :/ |
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ahem rewire. |
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amen rewire* |
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agree...i still wonder why they didn't made it vst compatible and for recording audio. surely they will...in about 3 versions. try using it with rewire...i wouldn't change reason just beacuse of the rex player and the rhythm machine. |
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nuendo does his job pretty well for the lack of reasons sound quality |
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I actually really love those softsynths, I been able to create some fairly unique sounds with it. Perhaps you guys haven't given it a proper chance. |
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limited haha ! i feel so sorry for those who close their musical world in VST plug ins. really, if you have imagination, and some skills, there should be no problem, with or without vst plug ins. sorry vst folks, youre sad, world doesnt end on vst standard, and what more, rewire standard is still here. youve just learned hot to use vst, and thats all, thats the easy part cos the plug in makes whole work for you. but hell, who likes to be creative anyway, eh ? sad sad people. |
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oh, and about that stupid quote "reason sound" - the one who said this probably didnt knew how to make his own samples, so there you go. FL with default samples sounds more shitty than fasttracker. every default sample is shit, so please stop proving that you can use only these ones. |
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the reason charm...i'm in love! |
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*makes drum and bass massif with teh malstrom* |
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hyakusen is fucking totally RIGHT!!! |
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samurai for prezident |
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Ummm. Cubase is better. Floops and Reason are the same class of program. Its nice that they included some mastering tools in reason this time, the old compressor was useless, the patern controlled filter sounded like shit and the distortion modules make everything sound way too bright. But this is still a sad excuse for an upgrade. A mastering suite and an effect joiner? at least v2 had a granular synth and some better effects. |
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The reason why there is a reason sound (no pun intended), is that it uses compression on your sounds. Open up a new rack, add a NN19 load a sample, save it and check the file sizes. The raw sample blah.wav is bigger than the whole reason file with sample plus reason data! Reason has to have a small reduction in quality or else it would require a very high end machine with tons of ram to work with all the stuff going on. You can do a ton of cool stuff in reason though. Don't use the crap distortion effect, never tried the scream thingy, but dont use the older one ever. Use a lot of compressors between instruments and the mixer, just use the default settings and it will clean up a lot of the sound. Use your own samples too. Get recycle2 and make your own rex loops and you are sorted for life. You can tweak the subtractor patches for good sounds, use your own rex's and own samples and it sounds half decent. save each track as a seperate wav then mix down, or get it alright sounding with the re:mix console then master it with another prog from a saved wav, i.e. waves plugin suite or external compressor eq, etc. |
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i agree with about everything said here, my real complaint about reason is the price, you can use it in rewire mode client, yes, but then you have to pay 2 expensive progs and you don't even have a real studio quality reverb (i bought a Lexicon mpx-110 for that, beats any soft-reverb i ever used and is entirely MIDI controllable at an incredible price) ReNoise is a good example of a cheap prog with outsanding sound quality and features but with an interface not suited to everybody, but for a fraction of reason's cost you have all it lacks and more seems like a good alternative to me anyway i use audiomulch demo for now and i'll probably buy Live 4 soon even tho it's really heavy on the budget :( |
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well its obvious that wav compression made by reason isnt perfect, but its not suppose to be for such things. you do something in reason, the mastering and other options you left for, i dunno, cubase or something. its all about ppl saying that tracks made in reason sound like reason, which is shit talking for me. |
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That's because people tend to use preset sounds or factory samples. Some of the FX devices are very recognisable (distortion unit) and the compression is a bit pants sometimes. add it all together and you have the 'reason sound', but it is easily avoidable. but lazy/crap people will create that sound,but the same is true for a number of different things e.g. floops,etc. |
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yes, thats true, and ive seen opinions about 'reason sound" very often here. shame that ppl are so lazy... |
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