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My Atkins diet..
 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 10:33 [#01407751]
Points: 2659 Status: Lurker



..is slowly starting this weekend. On monday morning I'm on
full alert against carbs. My goal is 75kg, I weigh 90kg now.
I'm starting this together with a friend at work. His goal
is to get down from about 120kg to double digits. It's good
to have a friend to support you.

I just cleaned out my fridge of most of the evil-carb stuff.
I saved the ketchup for people visiting and so on. The
hardest part is to figure out what to eat. I know
Atkins.com has menus for the first week, but still.. I
need to replace my morning baguette with something like
fried eggs and bacon or something. Atleast they have that in
the restaurant at work.

I'm not worried that I can't cut it for two weeks. I already
cut off sugar back in april this year. I was down to an
incredible 81kg this summer, but here I am again at a nice
even 90. They say 75-76 is a healthy weight for someone who
is 175cm. <--me

I'll keep you posted. Check out the site, it's amazing what
you're allowed to eat and terrifying what you have to leave
out.

/Jonne, 91kg as I type this


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 10:44 [#01407769]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



the BBC made a documentary last year in which they tried to
find out why the Atkins diet worked.

they came to the conclusion that the people who did the
Atkins diet in their test lost more weight because of the
fatty foods they were eating - it made them eat relatively
less than the other groups, which basically comes down to
the general "eat less calories diet".

except that dieticians also fear how good it can be for
someone to eat that much fat, on the longer run (for your
arteries, heart, etc.).

good luck, though. :)


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 10:49 [#01407780]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



diets are kind of silly really..sure you should mind what
you eat, but not overdoing something, and using as much of
fresh fruit and vegetable along with exercise should do the
trick. the point is exercise and combinating different
food..with as little of suggar, salt and fat as possible.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 10:51 [#01407785]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to tolstoyed: #01407780



well, yes, the most healthy way is to burn more calories
than you take in.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 10:55 [#01407799]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to qrter: #01407785



well yeah, but also food that isn't bad for digestion..lots
of fibres..

i was driving with my bike quite a bit this summer (about 50
kms per day)...i lost quite a bit of weight doing that..i
then stopped coz of bad weather and i gained all the weight
back. i now bought a room bike :)


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:26 [#01407859]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



atkins is for people who are too lazy to exercise. just
exercise and eat healthy and you'll be fine.

you need carbs.
it's healthier to eat carbs and exercise, than to not eat
carbs and be weak all the time.

fuck atkins. it's a fad. it's not healthy.

you NEED carbs.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-27 11:27 [#01407861]
Points: 6113 Status: Lurker



Atkins has become so huge that drug companies are making
suppliments specifically for Atkins fags. SICK


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:31 [#01407870]
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it's the easy way out.

like wtf. it's common sense. it's not hard to lose weight.
it's not hard to be healthy. and if you're gonna value being
thin over health, then you deserve to be fat and to struggle
with fad diets.



 

offline Quoth from Sweden on 2004-11-27 11:32 [#01407871]
Points: 3840 Status: Lurker



ARE YOU FAT?


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:33 [#01407873]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to Quoth: #01407871



who?

me?


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:35 [#01407875]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



no, i'm not fat because i'm HEALTHY. i eat lotsa vegetables
and fruit and whole grains and i work out a lot and drink
lots of water. you know, the COMMON SENSE things you have to
do to stay healthy.

why don't you take a nutrition course.. or a biology
course.. join a gym.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-27 11:35 [#01407876]
Points: 6113 Status: Lurker | Followup to corrupted-girl: #01407870



Last year in university my roommate was on atkins and I
would offer him some falafel and he was like "I dont need
those unhealthy carbs" and then proceeds to eat a huge
MOOSE STEAK every second day.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:38 [#01407878]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to brokephones: #01407876



hahaha

yea. it's ridiculous. i mean, just look in supermarkets..
there's an atkins alternative to every product. it's
obviously a gimic.. an unhealthy 'get thin fast' fad. ask
any nutritionist.

i dunno. i think in our society we emphasize too much on
being thin instead of being healthy. if people would focus
on health, being over-weight and obese wouldn't be such an
epidemic.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 11:39 [#01407879]
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Fat doesn't seem to do the same kind of damage to your heart
etc. when you don't eat carbs or sugar. Maybe I saw the same
documentary, but they had this 6 month test and the
cholesterol values were fine for the people on Atkins'.

Exercise is my biggest problem. I do take huge walks with my
cameras to keep my blog running, but they want you to
"exercise" (read aerobics) 45mins a day. I wonder if work
counts? :) It can get pretty hectic.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-11-27 11:41 [#01407880]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Paco: #01407879



yes, but those tests are all short-term.

the point a lot of dieticians are making is that they really
worry about the long-term effects - granted, the only way to
find that is in time, but they do feel there is a need to
worry.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 11:41 [#01407881]
Points: 2659 Status: Lurker



I'm not an Atkins fanatic (yet), but isn't his method the
only scientifically proven weight loss program? I mean,
that's why every professor and their brother is trying to
miscredit it.


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 11:42 [#01407883]
Points: 2659 Status: Lurker



That was at corrupted girl..



 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:45 [#01407886]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



exercising? eating vegetables and whole grains? portion
control? not eating processed foods?

EXERCISING!

omg. duh. it's soo simple.



 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:48 [#01407888]
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what does your diet consist of now, before atkins diet?


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 11:54 [#01407891]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular



your body needs lots of fruits and vegetables and whole
grains. i mean, they are all proven to prevent cancer and
other diseases. the health benefits are immense and yes, all
these things do have carbs in them. the atkins diet doesn't
offer enough foods high in anti-oxidants and disease
fighting nutrients.
carbs are energy.. sure a lot of carbs are bad for you,
that's why you eat complex carbs.. whole grains. you NEED
energy. it takes a lot out of your body to feed purely on
lipids. you need a balance of carbs to be able to use excess
lipids on your body as energy. it takes times.
if you balance whole grain carbs with exercise, you'll see
results, be healthy. it might take longer than a diet fad..
but you'll be 100% more likely to maintain for the rest of
your life. you know.. make health your lifestyle not a diet.


unless you have a big date or an award show to go to on the
weekend... but then you should just go on a 3 day coke binge
and you'll lose like 10-15 pounds!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 11:58 [#01407896]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



yeah, atkins may be good in short run, but if you intend to
do this for your health you should do it the way corrupted
girl says..


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 11:59 [#01407897]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator | Followup to tolstoyed: #01407896



although corrupted girl sounds a bit to extreme too :)
you don't really need to be so strict on everything..as long
as you're getting enough exercise.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-27 11:59 [#01407898]
Points: 6113 Status: Lurker



Our bodies need bullet holes


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 11:59 [#01407899]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker



Atkins is a good diet. Our bodies are not made for taking
care of all those carbs , our bodies own energy system
starts to work again when you cut down on carbs. We are meat
and vegetable eaters and thats that.
No carbs at all isn't good either tho , i for example eat
porage every morning , but that is basicly all the carbs i
need.
but eating a big plate of pasta with a baguete on the side
for dinner and then go to bed a couple of hours later is
idiotic (atleast eat whole grain pasta for gods sake!).
And you should mix all those stakes with stuff like salmon
and grilled tuna for more "good fats"

It is like that with many things. People who use alot of lip
gloss (i think its called?) eventually get dry lips cause
the body stops to take care of it on its own. Same with
stuff like anti dandruff shampo , if you use it too much.
Too much carbs is crap!


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-27 12:02 [#01407903]
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That is not that. Fuckoff


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 12:03 [#01407904]
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It is that.Fuckon


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 12:05 [#01407905]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



i think this still stands..


Attached picture

 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-27 12:05 [#01407907]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



+ check out japanese people...they all seem to live long and
healthy.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 12:06 [#01407911]
Points: 8469 Status: Regular | Followup to Sido Dyas: #01407899



fruits and vegetables ARE carbs. they consist of sugar
units. our bodies ARE designed to use carbs as our main
source of energy. there's good 'bready' carbs too.. whole
grains, nuts, seeds, legumes. you don't have to eat pasta
and bread to get carbs.

"Our bodies are not made for taking
care of all those carbs , our bodies own energy system
starts to work again when you cut down on carbs."

haha .. carbs are our MAIN source of energy! we have tons of
specific enzymes to break down carbs for quick energy
results.

what are you talking about.



 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 12:11 [#01407926]
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I mean if you eat like a normal swedish person like for
example my dad , sandwiches for breakfast (white bread)
lunch with lots of pasta/rice/potatoes , cerials after work
, dinner with lots of pasta/rice/potatoes.
We are just not made for that type of diet.



 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 12:13 [#01407931]
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oh and i forget to mention his sandwiches/cerials before
bed.


 

online big from lsg on 2004-11-27 12:14 [#01407934]
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loose weight and kill animals and rainforest and stuff too,
aweslime


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 12:15 [#01407937]
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yea. that's not healthy either. you're right.

balanced diet and exersice is your best bet.

like all those cheesy 80's health commercials.. you know..
body break.

i guess they've modernized a bit..


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-11-27 12:15 [#01407938]
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Fuck Neutral


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-11-27 12:29 [#01407955]
Points: 2038 Status: Regular



I just tried all the kinds of diets...Atkins is a fucker.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 12:29 [#01407956]
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foot strengthening system hahaha!

balanced diet and exersice is your best bet

Word!

Of course you have to live a little too . Like once or twice
per week i eat something unhealthy like a big fat pizza with
extra everything. Especially during the winter being a
mailman in sweden on a bike everyday in the snow and then
all my hours at the gym it really does more good then
damage. If i didn't i would look and feel like gollum or
iggy pop haha!.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-11-27 12:30 [#01407958]
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???


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 13:54 [#01408019]
Points: 2659 Status: Lurker | Followup to corrupted-girl: #01407888



Milk, Coffee (lots of it), diet coke, all kinds of fruit,
bread (lots of it), pasta almost daily at work.. umm, cheese
(the wrong kind), fat foods in general. Basically alot of
the good stuff. I don't eat much sugar though, intentional
candy type sugar I mean. There's sugar in bread and all
kinds of food, but I haven't really paid attention, since
it's supposed to be healthy :)

"our bodies ARE designed to use carbs as our main
source of energy..."

With the risk of sounding like a fanboy again, remember that
a high-carb diet is a pretty recent thing in the history of
mankind. Meat was the only way for people for a long time,
before we learned to grow high-carb foods like grains.



 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-11-27 13:56 [#01408023]
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ah the italics are out of control..


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-11-27 14:21 [#01408058]
Points: 2038 Status: Regular



My diet: junkie food ,cigs and coffee.Sometimes chocolate
helps too.Bubblegums are welcome too.


 

offline k_maty on 2004-11-27 15:02 [#01408090]
Points: 2362 Status: Regular



try this for your health!


 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2004-11-27 15:04 [#01408091]
Points: 1572 Status: Lurker



I rarely ever see a successful dieter.

Besides bulimics.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 19:07 [#01408211]
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yea but how healthy were people back then?



 

offline corrupted-girl on 2004-11-27 19:11 [#01408214]
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i dunno. i really don't think processed foods are healthy
for humans on a regular basis. once in a while, sure. but
not everyday.

i try to stick to vegetables, fruits, whole grains, lotsa
water, tea, and hemp/spirulina/chlorella proteins. i'm
obsesed with health though. i get really paranoid about
cancer and diseases from processed foods.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-11-27 19:18 [#01408216]
Points: 12102 Status: Regular



A liquid lunch picks you up for about an hour after a heavy
night I'm told.


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-11-28 06:58 [#01408583]
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There was a documentary about the atkins diet here too. And
the conclusion was that the protein in the food people eat
on the atkins diet makes them fell less hungry.

But the danger is that, body needs carbs and shit. On the
Atkins diet people eat mostly Fat and Protein.

And did you know that if the food you are eating is high
fat, it feeds you apetite and you eat more than you should.

I just ate some mysli


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-11-28 07:01 [#01408585]
Points: 3316 Status: Lurker



I thinks its sad that people are looking for these "miracle
diets". Being in shape comes from exersice and eating healty
just like sylvia said.

Exersice makes wonders on your mind all so. its just
amazing.


 

offline zkreso from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2004-11-28 07:31 [#01408600]
Points: 274 Status: Lurker



Atkins sucks. Here's what you do, couldn't be simpler.

Find out how many calories you eat a day.
Find out how many minutes you have to run to burn those
calories.
Then just run, and when you've burned it all away, run for a
couple of more minutes.


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-11-28 09:14 [#01408644]
Points: 5125 Status: Regular



Its true though that carbs make you more hungry Protein just
seems to satiate me.



 

offline Rostasky from United States on 2004-11-28 09:17 [#01408646]
Points: 1572 Status: Lurker



What boring ways to lose weight...


 


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