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Just finished about the first two hours of this game...holy shit. It's pretty damn amazing. A lot like the first but even more polished (if that's possible) Amazing atmosphere, great control, decent story so far and a very cool menu interface. This game looks like it's only getting better. Go get it! Or Samus will kick your ass. |
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we should just drop the music pretense and turn xltronic into a big video game circle jerk. |
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Well right now there's way more kickass games coming out than new albums from electronic artists. If these musicians weren't playing all these great games we'd probably have a lot more music to talk about:) |
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agreed. *goes back to playing HL2* |
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I almost forgot about it! It's underhyped compared to what it deserves. I'm so psyched for it, hopefully I can get it or at least rent it tonight. The art direction looks so stellar. This recent deluge of great games is like the climax of my life so far. |
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Nobody seems to care about this game, here or elsewhere. I still can't find GTA- SA, it's flying off the shelves, and Halo 2 is sold out everywhere here, but I just went to Walmart and there were like 20 copies of Echoes and not a sign of life around the Gamecube cabinet (there were at least 2 people at the desk looking for GTA). What gives? Anyway, I'm playing it. What were the graphic artists smoking? This environments sure are... alien. What a game. I feel like a needle in a disgusting, gooey haystack. |
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I would be getting this game now if mgs3 wasn't coming out. I will eventually get this though. |
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Seriously there's just too many games. I want to get Mario Tennis, heard it the greatest multiplayer. And I want MGS3. But I'm getting the DS with at least a game or two and the funds are running low. Plus I guess I have to buy people christmas presents. I hate Christmas. This game is kicking my ass. So cool. Just regained my bombs. So sweet. |
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there are seriously too many games comming out. I want one of those Nintendo DS so i can go back and play all the other game boy games I missed out on, but seriously, I have HL2 and GTA:SA, I'll be busy for at least a year. |
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So how's it coming? I'm about halfway through the Torvus Bogs, I think. The world seems a bit bigger than Prime's, and there's more ''landmarks'', so to speak. I scan and read everything... a nice storyline that literally doesn't force itself down your throat. I'm thinking about getting a DS for Hunters, looks a lot better than the pixelated blur that was at E3. And Mario 64-DS, which looks pretty awesome. Crazy Legs Luigi is back to his Mario 2 tricks. But I also want a PSP, for Metal Gear Acid, Devil May Cry PSP, and Gran Turismo. Fuck video games. |
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is the sound as awesome on this one as it was on prime 1? |
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Honestly... no. Not to me. Atmospherically speaking, yes. The game's ambience is perfect. There's a really ominous Terminator-ish thundering beat near the start that creeped me out, but it's not much a track on its own. There aren't many catchy tunes... Prime 1 set a tone, but it also had some really catchy stuff and neat sounds (that theremin and the remixed tunes). Chozo Ruins, Tallon Overworld 1 and 2, Meta-Ridley, the Drifts, that underwater Frigate piano music, Magmoor (that rad Super Metroid Norfair tune)... a lot of tunes I actually still listen to, stand-alone. And that awesome title screen Metroid theme. I can't think of any tunes from Echoes that I want to hear away from the game. But I'm only about 6.5 hours and 27% in, so... maybe it gets better. I do hear there's a really awesome remix later on. It's very sullen. No driving beat like the one in Chozo Ruins, that whiplash percussion and throbbing bass. This one is really ambient and moody. It works and does the job to a T, but I don't like it as much the first Prime. (this game is superior in every other way, though) Metroid Fusion had a great soundtrack, even though it was a diluted Metroid game with no sense of urgency. |
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well i do care about it a lot! : ) Metroid Prime is my favourite GC game and in my top 10 games ever. ...so it's as good as the first one? |
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by the way, i'm ashamed but i'm stuck in Super Metroid (SNES) at the very beginning, just one or two rooms after getting the morph ball... wow, i suck : | |
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Have you ever played Super Metroid before, or are you playing it for the first time in years or something? That game is tougher to deal with than either Metroid Prime, man... the puzzles and destinations can be so vague, and there's no hint pop-ups to guide you. And the map isn't as useful, lacks color coding and all those keys. Sometimes it feels like you're looking for a needle in a haystack in the older Metroid games. But I love it. And yeah, Echoes is better than the first Metroid Prime, though it's pretty much the same thing. I think Prime pushed the Gamecube to the limits... Echoes just refines the gameplay experience. The environments are busier and more interesting. There's more stuff to do. |
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(i had never played it before last year, and i only do it in emulation... ' _ ') good : ) i'll probably have it for christmas! |
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pretentious |
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Huh? Wuh? Buh? I guess someday it'll be inevitable, some video games will be frowned on by some for being pretentious. I guess Metroid is pretty artsy fartsy. It's the Brian Eno of FPS'. Nintendo fanboy- ''it's not an FPS, it's a first person ADVENTURE!11'' |
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Hey hello, it's been a while since my last post. I migrated to a msgboard about videogames... since that was pretty much all I talked about on xltronic anyway. ;) But since Echoes isn't out in europe yet, I thought I'd ask here. How hard is the game? Alot of reviews say it's harder than the 1st one... but how bad is it really? I'm really not good in First person shooters at all, infact I don't even really like them. It took me a while to get into the first Metroid Prime because of that... but eventually I grew to like it. I love the automatic aiming and the lock-on mechanism. It takes away alot of the problems I usually have with other FPS-games. The entire game was also much more about exploring than shooting... which was good. And I really did enjoy the feeling of solitude and emptiness... just like in the old metroid games. :) However the last part of the game was way too hard for me. I did manage to finish it eventually... but I hardly enjoyed it anymore. Around the point where you first entered the phazon mines... all the enemies after that were basically Space Pirates. All of the color-coded to only be harmed by one specific weapon, some of them even invisible without the right visor... that was so annoying. They always managed to sneak up on me and deplete half of my energy tanks before I found the right weapon+visor to get a lock on them. The Omega Pirate almost made me cry... and I won't even mention Ripley! So, taking all that into consideration... do you guys think I'll be able to enjoy Echoes? Or is it Phazon-Mines difficulty right from the beginning with Omega Pirate-like bossfights around every corner? The idea of a dark world where even the atmosphere is deadly kinda scares me... |
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The game definitely seems harder than Prime. The bosses are a bit more brutal... no boss in Prime gave me problems until the Omega Pirate, but a few in Echoes have brought me near death before beating them. The battles have a bit more twitch action, and less gimmicky strategy. But the gauntlet of Space Pirates in the Phazon Mines was the toughest moment in either game for me... If you liked Prime, you'll probably like this, I can't see how you wouldn't, since it improves everything. The Sanctuary Temple is definitely the neatest thing in either game, beautiful art direction... and I like the darker story, which I personally like. You come across a million corpses just minutes into the game. It's a really fucked up planet. I guess the only real dispointment was the ''deadly atmosphere'' you mentioned... yeah, it does drain your health pretty quick, but there's safe zones that are way too plentiful. And they TOTALLY recharge your health if you wait long enough. And eventually you find a suit that protects against most of the damage the atmosphere does to you. And I though there'd be some really tough moments where you had to traverse a huge area with NO safe zones, try to cheat death in a panic before you fry, but no... it's pretty easy. Probably a lot more dangerous on hard more though, which I'll try after I beat the game. By the end of the game, I find it's safer to be in the dark world than the light, since you can use those safety zones to recharge fully at any time. |
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Sanctuary FORTRESS, I meant. Neat place, even the bugs on the walls are mechanical. Dark Samus is pretty cool, too. Some nice battles. |
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Thanks for the feedback. :) I'll probably end up buying the game anyway. It comes out this week already it seems. But I want to finish Paper Mario 2 first, before i buy another game (brilliant & hilarious game btw.) I can't say I'm really looking forward to tougher bossfights. Sounds like I'll be stuck there a couple of times... trying over and over. Oh well "The battles have a bit more twitch action, and less gimmicky strategy" That's a shame really. I like the gimmicky strategy-battles. At first having no idea what to do and how to hurt such a boss... but once you figure out his weak spot it suddenly becomes lots of fun as you can easily kill it. Nice and creative, they always give me a good feeling once I've figured them out. I guess "twitch action" means they just fight really aggressive and you have to hurt them alot? "But the gauntlet of Space Pirates in the Phazon Mines was the toughest moment in either game for me... " Wait... so you're saying the hardest part of the Phazon Mines was harder than anything found in Echoes as well? In other words... I've already seen the toughest the series can offer? :) Well I'll probably be alright then I think. The Phazon Mines were no picknick... but I did survive it... eventually. I was afraid Echoes was going to be even more difficult in places. "which I personally like. You come across a million corpses just minutes into the game. It's a really fucked up planet." Sounds excellent! I've always liked the darker side of the Metroid series. I loved the introduction-level of Prime... aboard the Space Station with all the dead space pirates. It really creates the right mood. "What the hell caused all this?" |
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"but there's safe zones that are way too plentiful. And they TOTALLY recharge your health if you wait long enough." That's relieving too. So there aren't really any points in the game where you get into serious trouble for being out in the dark atmosphere too long? I'm sorry to hear you were dissapointed by it... but to me this is good news. ;) I'll probably be able to finish Echoes after all. "Probably a lot more dangerous on hard more though, which I'll try after I beat the game. " Needless to say, I'm not even touching Hard Mode. Nor will i be doing any low-item runs, or trying to finish the game as fast as possible. I love playing around like that in Super Metroid... but not in FPS-metroids. I'll just play through it in normal once, maybe twice. I really just like to enjoy the story and soak up the atmosphere. I took Prime very slow, and I scanned everything. I thought it was especially well done once the pirates started to take notice of you, and you started to find messages about yourself in their computers. :D "Sanctuary FORTRESS, I meant. Neat place, even the bugs on the walls are mechanical. " Well... I don't really know what you're talking about yet. But I'm looking forward to exploring the fortress myself. Mechanical bugs? "Dark Samus is pretty cool, too. Some nice battles." Hm... i don't know. I'll have to see for myself. Ofcourse I've read about dark samus... but it seems a bit like a Fusion rip-off to me. Atleast in Fusion it was really a big part of the story. But from what I've seen of Echoes, the story seems so messy. Like they're trying to do too many things. A light and a dark world, ing and luminoth. And space pirates. And Metroids. And a dark samus. Are they really able to tie all those things together in a nice coherent storyline? |
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Don't worry, you'll still have to figure out tricky ways to hurt the bosses. I died without taking a nanometer of health away from one of them before figuring out the trick. But they seem a bit more aggressive, even knowing ''the trick'', they're a bit harder. They go down swinging. And don't worry about the storyline... I think most people are plenty satisfied with it. Dark Samus is pretty effective and intimidating. And I think the scanning is a bit more interesting, too... basically, there's more to scan, and the benefit of having all these elements in the story is that you see them all come together and tie-in through your research. It's not as complex as it sounds, it'll make perfect senese very quickly. And you'll still get into the minds of Space Pirates... this time, they're extremely unhappy and scared to see TWO Samus' running around, but... well you'll see what happens. |
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Well, I have the game now... so far so good. The first part, the introduction, was awesome! That really freaked me out because I didn't see it coming at all. :p Who needs resident evil if you've got metroid? The darker mood and atmosphere work really well for me. But I just came back from my first trip through the dark world... and thought it was kind of annoying. Your energy depletes alot faster than I had thought. I spent most of time just standing still in one of those bubbles waiting for my energy to regenerate. :-/ I can't wait to find the suit that'll help against the atmosphere. Otherwise, I haven't found anything insanely difficult yet... so we'll see how it goes. I hope I'll make it to the end of the game without too much frustration... |
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even harder bosses? aw, i remember i really had difficulty with some in Metroid Prime... : | |
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I never did manage to beat the last boss in Metroid Prime, which was made all the more disappointing when I decided to check out the speed runs and watched a guy beat the game with almost full health (not to mention the 100% completion and about 1 hour of total playing time) Anyway, I decided to pick up Echoes yesterday and it's been really fun so far. It's challenging but not so bad that I want to stop playing. I suspect it'll get harder but hopefully I'll be able to beat this one. I like the new scan visor a lot more. It's so much easier to tell what you have and haven't scanned so you don't spend 5 minutes in a room clicking L until nothing appears to need scanning anymore. I've heard that this one takes about 20 hours to beat the first time, which is about how much time I spent on the first, but it seems to me like it's a shorter game. This is the only metroid game I can think of where you start with (and get to keep) the morph ball, charge beam and by the looks of it, the varia suit. What I hope that means is that collecting those items would have added another hour or so to the game play and that it's such a long game that doing so would have made it too big. |
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It took me about 21 hours... and I went back to look at my Metroid Prime save and that my first saves for both games were only a few minutes in difference, hehe. It's Prime's equal in length, at least. |
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it's fun. |
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Erm... who here has played Metroid Zero Mission via emulator? I just got to Kraid, and, well... he's invisible. And so am I. I see no mention of invisibility in the FAQs so I'm thinking this may be an emulation error or something. I'm using Visualboy Advance Special Edition and I'd like to check with another emulator, but naturally I don't want to waste an hour getting back here. Fuck that. I don't think I can use this save with anything else. Fuck. |
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im having a blast with this game, i just came to the fortress electro fuck thing, the game seems to get allot harder now.. wich is quite good as it has been pretty easy so far. I think im enjoying this game even more then i enjoyed metroid prime, I cant come up with why i enjoy it more though. Btw the brinstar remix is awsome in torvus bog's water environment, it sends those very special super metroid chills down my spine! |
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OK, that was seriously fucked up. I had to disable a background layer so I could see him. Maybe having some problems with transparencies or something... weird. I think I was also having problems with opaque water earlier... guess I have to disable that layer when I get there again too. What a pain. I'm sure you're all enthralled. Awt- yeah, that fortress was tough. Those Rezbits are one of the most annoying video game enemies in the history of video game enemies. The Sanctuary Fortress is an awesome artistic triumph. |
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i just came to the fortress, the environment is very different and cool YES! Im only around the save station in the beginning and have allready realised how hard it's going to be, when trying to enter the place those damn space pirates took about the half of my energy (and that's quite unusuall for regular bad guys) You mentioned those mech bugs on the wall before, they are great.. very "super metroid'ish" Of some weird reason the fortress reminds me of the "dead mechanical" place in super metroid.. cant remember it's name, i think it lays sort of "behind" the ship.. you know what i mean! the really weird horrible dead place around the landing spot =) anyway, i have never tryed out metroid on the game boys.. so i cant help you there, would you recommend me that zero mission thing ? is it top quality aswell ? |
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The Fortress is long and it is HARD (!!!). Enjoy. But it's beautiful, hyper futuristic. Unforgettable environment, my favorite place from either game. The Metroids for Gameboy Advance are fantastic. Metroid Fusion has the second best soundtrack in the series (behind Super Metroid), but it's way too easy... you're guided through the game, given objectives and directions, and never really get that ''lost and alone'' feel. Still very fun though, but the least ''Metroidy'' Metroid. Zero Mission is sort of a remake/reimagination of the first Metroid for NES, way better of course. Lots of good remixes of every original Metroid theme, harder than Fusion and more wide open... it's the most similar one to Super Metroid. A bit too... ''colorful'', though. The GBA Metroids are pretty cartoony and bright, which kind of gets on my nerves sometimes. Super Metroid's a lot scarier and gloomier. Both GBA Metroids are awesome. And if you're into those 2D adventures, the GBA Castlevanias are even better. They basically rip off the Metroid formula, but I like them even more. They're harder and deeper (!!!!!!!), more RPG elements like building up your stats, equipping weapons/armor/accessories, etc. |
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i just beat the three headed sandworm bastardo in darklandville (MP:2), and returned the dark energy. Awesome! |
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allright, then it's time for me to start dowloading stuff for the emu's once im finished with echoes (im not good at playing many games at the same time).. besides i want to concentrate and enjoy whatever game im playing to the fully! A good soundtrack for fusion you say ? sounds great! im in the mood to start playing super metroid again now, theres so many games that i want to play at the moment.. I dont even have the time, i also want to play final fantasy 5 again but i really dont have time for that! but but, i have to stay on echoes! I will keep in mind that the fortress is HARD!.. and i will walk through the rooms carefully and well aware =D (like i have not been doing that every second of the game so far) =D |
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jesus frazilackin' christ this game is long! i just got the map of torvus and realized its 10x bigger than i thought. |
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I finished playing Thief: Deadly Shadows two days ago. I thought I'd mention it here, it being a game 'n all. |
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Torvus. It's BIG and LONG and HARD and HAS LIQUID. Rrowwr. HEY GUYS LOOK . Prime in the style of Super Metroid. I'm not really fond of the graphics, but it's going to beoverhauled. It's getting there. |
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That was a wicked game, in my top 10 of 2004. But you have to have scored at least a 9.3 at Gamespot to be worthy of being namedropped in this topic. |
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I liked it too. and I also like gamespot. |
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so far, i'd say it's as good as the first one! : ) (i'm at the Torvus swamps right now, i don't know how much worlds are there apart from the Temple grounds? i'm guessing three... would have liked more) the boss are hard indeed, and i'm just at the beginning... i absolutely hate them until i beat them (or get my brother to beat them... he only played the beginning of Metroid Prime, like 4 hours, and i must be at 30 hours of Metroid Prime including 1 and 2 but he's better than me at beating bosses ' _ -) |
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the boss in dark torvus bog is kicking my shiny metallic ass right now. i think i've figured it out, now i've just got to find my way back. i left to go explore around & restore my weapons, and got a wee bit lost. this has got to be teh biggest game evar. |
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hmm. I haven't had much difficulty in this game yet. I had my ass handed to me the first time I fought the boost ball boss but that was because I thought the four pillars were light crystals that had to be activated. It didn't occur to me that the whole fight would be without the safe cover of light. Other than that, I've been doing fairly well in the game which is good because I hate losing ^_^ I like a challenge but I don't like to die so many times that I stop wanting to play the game anymore and so far, echoes has offered exactly that. I do think the game is getting harder quicker than I'm getting better, though. What I mean is that when I started, the map never popped up telling me where to go, but the last time I played, it had to pop up twice telling me where to go next. I haven't been figuring out the puzzles as quick as I should be. hmmmmmmmmm Fun though. |
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Just wait until you get to the sanctuary. The whole visual feel of the game changes. It's amazing. Probably my favorite level of any game I've played for a long time. |
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i sort of just got the power bombs, the game is very fun at the moment, im planning to go on and collect stuff for the next hours in the game now that i got spider and bombs the sanctuary fortress is still scary and im afraid of what will come, someone have my stolen gear over there =/ |
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dammit. that boost boss dude kicked my ass like 10 times. :( i ain't very good at them there vid-yo games. |
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A lot of people are having problems with the Boost Boss. I didn't game though. If you can take him, you can take anybody. Don't give up. SHOPE HIM WHO'S BOSS |
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oh i finally killed him. i killed him up REAL good. then i did a little dance on my couch to celebrate. |
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i finished the boost ball boss on the second shot, he was kinda annoying though.. i had some problems with the spider ball boss too, hes really easy if you know what to do and i did. But in the last session of battling him (battling hmm) i just missed a certain spot were i was forced to roll up to be able to finish him, i simply couldnt see it =/ my girlfriend then said "HEEy cant you bomb up there" and i tryed it, and it worked haha.. so annoying just missing something like that.. happens sometimes to me in metroid prime, maybe i need glasses. |
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