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Eric Dolphy - Out to lunch!
 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-11-15 03:50 [#01395598]
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I just bought this album before the weekend and it's been
spinning ever since. It's awesome! Highly recommendable if
you like electronica and want an introduction to avant garde
jazz. It's amazing that it was recorded in 1964 and released
on Blue Note. Check it out, maaan!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-11-15 10:44 [#01395853]
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My postman stole this album frrom me 3 times beforre
he was sussed. Worrth the wait though.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-11-17 06:38 [#01397820]
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I would forgive him for the first time, but three times!!!

Track 3 on this album - Gazzelloni - is soooo wickedly
great!Amazing stuff. Very IDM'ish indeed.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-17 06:42 [#01397823]
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im going to check this out!
i got another old idm record today btw..recorded in years
from 1929-1934 :)
charley patton - devil sent the rain blues
awesome stuff!


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-11-17 06:55 [#01397827]
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Never even heard of him, but I'll check it out! I really
like the lofi eshtetics of recordings from the thirties and
forties.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-11-17 07:05 [#01397831]
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apperantly the 1st real star of delta country blues...this
is probably the oldest blues record i've heard and it's
brilliant. so far i only knew people like lee hooker, muddy
waters, lowell fulson, chuck berry, buddy guy, little
milton,...so newer blues basically.

Out to lunch! is 5 tracks only?


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-11-17 07:18 [#01397836]
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Are we listening to the same record? I hear no traces of
IDM, I only hear a distinct influence on Zappa.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-11-17 09:00 [#01397954]
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It might be a bit far-fetched to compare it to idm but I
think it might appeal to (some of) the same audience.. and
yes I totally get your Zappa comparison.


 

offline uzim on 2004-11-17 11:21 [#01398198]
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difficult music.

but good and interesting : )


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-11-17 12:06 [#01398275]
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I was going to say... IDM'ish, wtf?


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-11-18 13:02 [#01399171]
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Hello.

I am in love with this album.


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2004-11-18 13:12 [#01399175]
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someone has this on slsk?


 

offline uzim on 2004-11-18 13:52 [#01399218]
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oh, you should find it easily, i found it in a record store
without having to order it.


 

offline paul8088 from United States on 2004-11-18 14:03 [#01399242]
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eMule


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-11-18 14:51 [#01399338]
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Eric Dolphy is definitely one of my all time favourite
musicians... this album is pretty damn amazing...

if you dig this part of the Blue Note catalogue, you might
also want to check Andrew Hill'sPoint of Departure and Bobby
Hutcherson's Dialogue the three albums share a lot of
the same players, and a similar vibe i think... and Point of
Departure is definitely another fine display on Dolphy's
part... gorgeous gorgeous stuff...


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-12-03 06:17 [#01414056]
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I love Point of departure! It's so.....different... I really
had to listen to it a lot to get into it, though. But
Dolphy's Out to lunch clicked with me instantly. I've become
a huge fan of Anthony Williams, who plays drums on both
these albums

Hutcherson's Dialogue and Wayne Shorter's Speak no evil are
among the next records I'm gonna buy and they are recorded
around the same time and part of the same era of Blue Note
progressive greatness. So is Herbie hancock's Maiden Voyage,
which I just bought and which is AWESOME!


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-12-03 07:37 [#01414175]
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yeah Maiden Voyage really is insanely gorgeous isn't it? the
song Maiden Voyage is probably my favourite Hancock song...
another album that i like from that era quite a bit is
Inventions and Dimensions by Herbie... it features him with a
polyrhythmic latin rhythm section... it's very droney styled
stuff (in so far as they lock into these grooves and just
explore every possibility of them and then transcend it...
like a raga or something...)... so cool, it almost sounds
IDMy in certain regards... might want to check that one out
too if it sounds interesting to you ...


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-12-06 06:11 [#01417082]
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Well, Inventions and Dimensions is one of my all time
favorite jazz albums... I need to get a new copy on cd
though, 'cause I only have this on second hand vinyl, titled
"Succotash". Took me quite a while to figure out that it
actually was the same album...

Another old vinyl I have that I plan to reinvest in on cd is
Kenny Burell's "Midnight Blue"

Bought a phat'n'funk cd today, btw: Jimmy Smith Live!: Root
Down.


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-06 06:16 [#01417083]
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actually...

i can see it's really good, but i have difficulty with it.
i'm sorta trying to force myself but most of the time i get
bored before the end of the album.

like with most jazz or classical i've heard in fact. : |


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-12-06 07:10 [#01417111]
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Well, I got into jazz by listening to it a lot to get used
to that kind of musical expression...


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-06 07:17 [#01417117]
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most of the time i feel like it (not especially this album
but classical, jazz in general)'s lacking dynamic or
something like that... like it was too "shy" (or codified
for certain types, certainly not for Out To Lunch though) to
really go into the direction it wants to...


 

offline uzim on 2004-12-06 07:21 [#01417119]
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let me guess... UK post? : |


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-12-06 10:30 [#01417278]
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Yep :(


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2004-12-06 10:37 [#01417281]
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Hmmm...I see your point... but I'm not sure that I agree
with you..

Obviously, there are a lot of boring jazz out there but if
you listen to how Charlie Parker, John Coltrane or
Thelonious Monk sometimes goes off the handle with their
instruments you wouldn't need to ask for more dynamics.

What really lighted my fire for jazz was the bebop of the
forties. The clever lo-fi recordings of a bunch of musicians
in a room going wham-bam-ba-dam-dam-pshhhh, with acoustic
instruments is really, really fascinating! The very limited
recording equipment they had and the thrilling sense of
performance at every take keeps me glued to the speakers
again and again. Listen to the recordings Monk did for Blue
Note or the recordings Charlie Parker did in the forties and
you'll see what I mean...


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-12-14 12:47 [#01425360]
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So like these two albums are really great and I now have to
thank you for recommending them, yay.

Also, should I get Contours by Sam Rivers or
something? It should be great considering the lineup, but


 

offline Torture Garden from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-12-14 13:20 [#01425399]
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You should get Contrasts by Sam Rivers, I have to get more
of his music myself, you can't go wrong with him really.


 

offline Co-existence from Bergen (Norway) on 2005-01-03 06:56 [#01443125]
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I recently got Rivers' "Fuschia Swing Song" and it made me
hungry for more. "Contours" has an amazing lineup indeed,
and is part of the Blue Note Connoisseur Series - and the
sound quality of that series is simply stunning!


 


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