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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:02 [#01388818]
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Is it me, or do a lot of IDM albums sound a bit too similar sound-design wise these days? Maybe it's all those super complex plugins everybody is into, but I remember the days where sounds were really fresh and it was harder to define that "typical sound" or a lot of albums with the same overal sound in the electronic music world.
It's hard to explain what those sounds are....just those glitchy DSP-driven farting sounds that kinda whizz about. Or something.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:04 [#01388820]
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*but I remember the days where sounds were really fresh and it was harder to define that "typical sound" or find two IDM albums from different artists with similar sounds being utilized.
Sorry I can't construct sentences today.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-09 09:04 [#01388821]
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hey! look! itsnt that the guy that only likes music if its produced in a certain way?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:07 [#01388823]
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wtf?
That thread had an entirely different purpose to what you understood. Sorry.
I don't care how it's produced-I was making the point that if a computer simply spits the music out and there is little artistic involvment other then a few equations, that bothers me.
Overall, I couldn't care less how it is produced-I listen to people who make albums on the fly, completely improvised, and others who plan it all out intricately. It's all good.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-11-09 09:08 [#01388826]
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Yep , i agreism , much of it sounds the sameism.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:10 [#01388827]
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I like music that reveals the composer's personality, like that guy who does the Toy Story theme!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:11 [#01388828]
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I don't get why though. With the amount of synthesizers and harware, as well as software out there, you'd expect more variety.
I mean, I also listen to a alot of dark ambient stuff, and that has a lot more variation soundwise overall (even though it's electronic music like IDM.)
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:11 [#01388829]
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We need to stop trying to put this music under an umbrella.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:12 [#01388831]
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Well, I don't like putting music into catagories either, I think it's idiotic.
But it's the easiest way to get my point across.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-11-09 09:13 [#01388833]
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maybe that is the point
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388839]
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Ok then-the typical stuff you hear on Planet Mu, Rephlex, Skam, Warp etc.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388840]
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R n B!!!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-11-09 09:15 [#01388841]
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absolutely
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-11-09 10:14 [#01388934]
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hey here's an idea. go make something totally new and innovative yourselfe instead of bitching about it.
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-09 10:50 [#01388968]
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Computer aided music does not have to sound "glitch". "Glitch" is usually a result of someone using software/hardware which they don't fully understand. Trial and error can sound really good. But as far as algorithmic composing goes, you can invest just as much time into your music as any other "real" musician does, and achieve ultimately beautiful resuts with computer aided music.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-11-09 11:28 [#01389011]
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electronic music progresses through a ripple effect. aphex drops a new lp with a big splash, and the waves get smaller and smaller and more and more predictable as time goes on.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-09 14:34 [#01389200]
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"hey here's an idea. go make something totally new and innovative yourselfe instead of bitching about it. "
Here's an idea: learn that YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BETTER AT SOMETHING to CRITICIZE OR GIVE YOUR OPINION on it.
How about we all fucking just say everything is amazing, because we can't do better!? "Oh, I love that shit picture of a pot of flowers, even thought it's completely unoriginal, because I couldn't paint better myself!"
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2004-11-09 15:42 [#01389270]
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I think the smell of my own shit is better than some music. Namely, music by John "The Cougar" Mellancamp, and Rod "The Puckered Asshole" Stewart
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OK
on 2004-11-09 17:07 [#01389337]
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ANALORD!!!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 08:41 [#01390007]
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donkey yellow tree.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-11-10 08:47 [#01390012]
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whats an IDM album?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-11-10 08:55 [#01390017]
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I blame the Buffer Override.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 08:56 [#01390018]
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lol!! That's an plugin I've heard fucking everywhere!
Mind you, I'm no better...ever since I got buffer override I've been addicted to it. It's toooooooo easy. :)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-11-10 08:57 [#01390020]
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I agree with the sameness factor. I dont think it is 100% common but it does happen quite frequently.
happy cycling. well put.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 09:21 [#01390056]
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Perhaps people should stop masturbating over plugins and start using pan pipes and stuff.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-11-10 10:06 [#01390093]
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I don't totally agree with the vibe you're giving off (maybe I'm reading too much into it), but yeah, there's definitely artists out there that don't really have any pizazz or spark, but they sure do know how to conjure some very technically sound music out of their laptop. But I don't think it's a widespread problem, this creative doldrums criticism has been around in every genre as much as music itself has... there's plenty of good stuff out there. When you say ''a lot of IDM albums'', I definitely have to agree with that, but on the other hand, that lot is really pretty negligible.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-11-10 10:11 [#01390097]
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Yeah. I didn't mean to come across as too negative, and I'm full aware there is a lot of highly original stuff.
But I was talking sepecifically about sound design, and how it is surprising that a lot of sounds are similar in lots of albums, especially considering the technology available.
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