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offline uzim on 2004-10-23 03:51 [#01369632]
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would it seem any wrong to you if paintings by very
well-known artists were sold $30, a bottle of perfume 50
cents, a vinyl record $5000, an apartment €10, if a trip
in the woods was paying and a cinema place free...?

of course if caviar had the price of ice cream and ice cream
the price of caviar, caviar would just be a banal product
and probably not something so delicious everyone would rush
to buy it. i bet lots of rich people buy caviar not for the
taste but for the style, and it tastes better because it's
so overpriced.
if caviar and ice cream were the same price, would you
rather buy a pot of caviar or a pot of ice cream?

of course, i know it depends on the production costs and all
that, and i'm not saying all the prices are injustified
(even though some really are) but it just seems so strange
to me, and frankly, almost completely random.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-10-23 03:57 [#01369634]
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my head hurts


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:14 [#01369637]
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Maybe you have a point there.
What if potatoes was a rarity that only grew on the top of
the himalya and a 2 kg bag costed half a months pay.
Would we think potatoes tasted like heaven ?
For the record i myself like potatoes but you know....

I love most expensive stuff like caviar and sea food and
find it to be almost equal to sex when its really good.
The price make it so i can't eat it everyday tho wich makes
it special.

One thing that has a really justifyed price tag is the meat
from an ox wich is better than any other kind of meat.
It is worth every peny.
Buying crap meat just to save money is stupid , you end up
with a beef flavoured chewing gum.

Salmon isn't super expensive but could certanly be cheaper
since it is easy to farm/grow (whats the word here?)

Anyways , it certanly is an interesting question Uzim.
I wish i had my old swedish teacher here who specialised in
answering philosphical questions like this.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:18 [#01369638]
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*gently kisses pOgO on the forhead*

There your head is better little one. =)


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-23 04:19 [#01369639]
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you can taste how expensive a bottle of wine is

but im inclined to agree. i value travelling on foot more
than cruising around in a sports car


 

offline uzim on 2004-10-23 04:23 [#01369640]
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"The price make it so i can't eat it everyday tho wich
makes it special."

> yes, that must have a great importance too (probably more
than the price itself directly).

"you can taste how expensive a bottle of wine is"
> sure.
but i think you can do this for a lot of things... (even
though sometimes cheaper stuff can be better than more
expensive, or the difference being big in price but small in
quality - not always, but it happens.)


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:24 [#01369641]
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"you can taste how expensive a bottle of wine is"

Really ?
What does a cheap/bad wine taste like ?

I wouldn't know cause im a beer man myself.
But i kinda agree when it comes to beer to eventho there are
some really good cheap ones.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2004-10-23 04:25 [#01369642]
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LOOK ! Take the movie "Fast and the ffourious" for example.
it took 50Million Dollars to make, but artisticlly its not
worth a cent.
Same with ART. People buy it cuz it is a privilge, but they
don't understand anything about ART or the creative process.
Thats why Andy Warhol was so succesful, and rightly so


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-10-23 04:28 [#01369643]
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cheap wine is much more likely to get you hungover or sick,
and tastes closer to vinegar. while an expensive wine can be
a very pleasant experience, and make your insides feel like
a cozy fireplace.

ive got something not Expensive but not cheap on me right
now. ive had so much cheap wine in my time that this is
going to great after this working week!


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:35 [#01369644]
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Ha! good point.
This ads another dimension to the disscusion.
I guess art is completely different in this sence (value)
then for example the price of food and beverage.
Its in the eye of the beholder.

Look at the incredibly redicilous movie "Independence Day"
wich i think is posibly the creapiest movie in history if
you think of Cost vs Artistic result. The only thing it got
going is the cool explosions in the begining. The rest is
imature and clumsy pro american wank. The fact that the
aliens didn't win at the end made me want to throw buckets
of goat sperm at the director.
Good thing for the humans that the aliens used macintosh
systems to run their motherships so they could plant the
virus and defeat them.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-10-23 04:36 [#01369645]
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Most wines are priced by where the grape grows

The better grapes are grown on cliff sides apparently so
these need to be picked by hand as no machinery can get to
them, hence the price of labour etc


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:38 [#01369646]
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But for another (lesser) person the movie was a religious
experience.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-23 04:39 [#01369647]
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"....is possibly the creapiest movie...."

Crappiest.


 


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