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offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:19 [#01357585]
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Since i see you here...

is IDM dead?

Honest opinion.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:32 [#01357587]
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Dear Virginpusher,

Yes i do believe that only the inhabitants of Watmm and Xlt
which support 90% of the IDM community are growing tired of
the so called "pretencious" bullshit.

signed

Joyrex


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-08 23:38 [#01357589]
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in a recent interview afx confessed "i was just taking the
piss out of people, just for a laugh you know? just like
with the waterbaloons i threw down on people from the top of
my bank. i can't believe these freaks actually devote all
their worthless lives to this kind of music. fucking losers
hahaha"


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:40 [#01357591]
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i never bought his music. theres my laugh

:D!!

arrogant prick


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-08 23:43 [#01357592]
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no you see, he inspired other people to make IDM (since he
practically invented it), so any of the "IDM" artists you
listened is a spawn of aphex. which directly brings the
laugh to the source of aphex's powers.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:46 [#01357593]
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I've never bought one IDM release. I still win.

Yagya>aphex


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-08 23:46 [#01357594]
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LIAR!!


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:50 [#01357595]
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The best thing is that i shit you not. None (IMO) were worth
buying.

The only exception would be SAW vol2. Ambient is interesting
to me but once again Yagya>aphecks


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-08 23:51 [#01357596]
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*edits previous post to clairify*

I still think about buying it but it is not worth my
precious $$$


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-08 23:56 [#01357600]
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virginpusher from the gentleman's thread on 2004-10-09 06:51
[#01357596]
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then why are you here if you listen something else like gay
disco or whatever you listened to?


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-09 00:03 [#01357601]
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Perhaps i could hear it from a friend. Perhaps that friends
CD might interest me to look into it. Perhaps on my own
findings i am not inclined to purchase thouands of dollars
in vinal/CD's because none of these releases are that
great.

I listen to everything by the way. Alot of punk/hardcore.
Also Jazz, Classic Rock, Underground hiphop blah blah blah
blah.

IDM is a genre that doesnt evolve. Just a bunch of bullshit.
That is why you have 1000 artists ripping off 100 other
artists using frooty loops trying to be signed by Rephlex.
There hasnt been any upgrades to the genre recently.


 

offline xf from Australia on 2004-10-09 00:42 [#01357603]
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you show me /any/ genre that's had any evolution as of late.
i tend to agree with you, but i don't think this applies
directly to idm.

there's still some great stuff being produced though, albeit
based on older ideas.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 00:43 [#01357604]
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"IDM" isn't really a genre, so how exactly is it suppose to
evolve? it's kindof electronic music without boundaries if
that's any way to describe it. if you judge good music in
terms of evolution, how can you listen to all of the genres
you just mentioned. they aren't evolving much either now are
they?


 

offline bogala from NYC (United States) on 2004-10-09 00:46 [#01357605]
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aphex was talking about people that listen to techno in
cheesy clubs.


 

offline xf from Australia on 2004-10-09 00:50 [#01357607]
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heh, where is this interview?


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 00:54 [#01357608]
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it was a joke. did you believe it?


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-10-09 01:00 [#01357609]
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virginpusher's records

Artist/Alias Record title Cat# Format Year Label
AFX Analogue Bubblebath 3 CAT008 CD 1xCD 1997 Rephlex
Records

(this feature is for privileged users only)


 

offline nacmat on 2004-10-09 01:07 [#01357610]
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he didnt invent it I think... I would say people like lfo
really invented it


 

offline xf from Australia on 2004-10-09 01:08 [#01357611]
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wouldn't surprise me; doubt he'd actually mean it but he
seems the kind of guy who'd say something like that just to
stir people up.

he's usually quite erratic in interviews, isn't he?


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 01:18 [#01357615]
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well come to think of it, if anyone "invented" it first it
would be kraftwerk. noone really invented it, it was just a
silly saying. what i meant is that he's the most influential
electronic music maker IMO, and i think alot of people agree
with me on that.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-10-09 01:39 [#01357622]
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yes



 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-10-09 01:44 [#01357623]
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i think it stems back further to the electro of the 70's


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 01:53 [#01357625]
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electro of the 70's = kraftwerk


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-10-09 02:05 [#01357626]
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hip hop


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 02:12 [#01357627]
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= 80's


 

offline _awt_ from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-10-09 02:15 [#01357628]
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"IDM is a genre that doesnt evolve. Just a bunch of
bullshit.
That is why you have 1000 artists ripping off 100 other
artists using frooty loops trying to be signed by Rephlex"

that's me!!!one of the 1000 hahaa, but im not trying to get
signed, i just imitate squarepusher with flooops and it's
pretty fun acctually.

good day


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-10-09 02:15 [#01357629]
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yeah youre right i just had a look at a couple of sites, i
though afrika bambatta was about since the 70's

my bad


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-10-09 02:16 [#01357630]
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though = thought


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 02:18 [#01357631]
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my kindof math


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-10-09 02:20 [#01357632]
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is joyrex' opinion of more value to you than anyone elses?


 

offline nacmat on 2004-10-09 02:53 [#01357638]
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maybe he just had curiosity


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-10-09 03:23 [#01357647]
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idm=electronic music without boundaries well said

no genre, no categorizing, no pigeonholing is what all this
music we like is about, so please stop using that stupid
term which doesn't even describe something nor mean
something relevant and just lead to people being able to say
things like "XXX" is a dying genre, "YYY" isn't "XXX"
because is kick isn't high-passed and WHAT IS YOUR FAV "XXX"
ARTIST OF THE YEAR!!

aphex started making techno, ambient, breakbeat
lfo made house, electro-pop,
ae made electronica, ambient,
merzbow was doing noise music,
others made trance,
808 sate made acid-house
blablalblabla

tell me all that is one big genre and you will look like an
idiot, there is no IDM,
braindance if you will call some of rephlex releases like
this but even...



 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-10-09 04:02 [#01357655]
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incoherent post award!


 

offline nacmat on 2004-10-09 04:08 [#01357658]
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well it made sense to me


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-10-09 04:39 [#01357663]
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the deeper meaning is ok...


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2004-10-09 04:50 [#01357664]
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after just downloading some bbc radiophonic workshop music,
delia derbyshire among others, created electronic music in
1963 ahead of kraftwerk by a few years

i sure its probley earlier but i cant be arsed to look atm,
i will later though


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2004-10-09 04:52 [#01357665]
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varèse etc...


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-10-09 05:17 [#01357678]
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OH DID YOU REALLY HAVE TO DO THIS >:(


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2004-10-09 05:19 [#01357679]
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yeah i know kraftwerk weren't the first ones creating
electronic music, because there were experiments prior to
that. however they were the first big influence on the
evolution of electronic music.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2004-10-09 05:24 [#01357680]
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one of the earliest must have been stockhausen, his
'elektronische musik 1952-60' came twenty years before the
first kraftwerk. that doesn't say much about his influence,
still.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-09 07:49 [#01357709]
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HAHA! I dont remember making this thread!!!
I must have thought it was funny to myself!!

Sorry guys!! :D!!!!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-10-09 08:06 [#01357716]
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i kinda liked joyrex. i wish there wasn't such hard
feelings between the two boards.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2004-10-09 08:07 [#01357717]
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i like your avatar... it's cool.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-10-09 08:07 [#01357718]
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he did it himself, with dropping all those pesky remarks all
the time


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-10-09 08:14 [#01357719]
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I dont have a problem with him. I think bullshit between the
boards is silly


 

offline nacmat on 2004-10-09 13:28 [#01357816]
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I do to

look at me

I to do


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2004-10-09 14:08 [#01357829]
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lets debate what IDM should be called.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-10-09 14:21 [#01357832]
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and i dont need any friends

cause i listen to idm


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-10-09 15:05 [#01357857]
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IDM destroyed my life.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-09 15:07 [#01357860]
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let's put a stop to IDM, once and for all.


 


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