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offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 17:44 [#01350421]
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I'm in the mood to discuss all things metal. I've
recently been getting in touch with my 8th - 9th grade roots
by listening to all of my old death and grind albums.
Suprisingly, I'm digging the hell out of them. A total shock
was listening to Carcass's - Necroticism and totally loving
it, as I didn't care for it when I was a kid.

I actually went out recently and bought a couple of metal
albums. The first being Mastodon's new one (which is pretty
great) and Dillilinger Escape Plan which I'm listening to
for the first time right now. Bleargh


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 17:53 [#01350428]
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well, i listened to all my slayer albums yesterday.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-10-01 17:55 [#01350429]
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I've been listening to Nick Drake of late. Is he metal?


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-01 17:56 [#01350431]
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Yeah ive been on a metal binch lately too.
Ive been brainwashed at work cause 70% of the people there
play metal all the time.

Its refreshing to listen to something really harsh
sometimes.
Grindcore bands like Nasum and Napalm Death is nice.
Scullfucking guitars and machinegun drums has its own
special charm =)

Also ive been spining childhood heroes like Iron Maiden and
Black Sabbath alot.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 17:57 [#01350432]
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black sabbath did some wacky shit. they're nearly prog at
times.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-01 17:58 [#01350433]
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Yeah they must have been very "out there" at the time.

What are some good Venom ?


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-10-01 17:59 [#01350434]
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I had a bath earlier, and got some water in my left ear.
Can't hear out of it properly now. The bath had
Radox-induced bubbles in it.

Completely irrelevant, but true.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-10-01 18:00 [#01350435]
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I met one of Slayer one time in a hotel in amsterdam and got
a promo signed! I love slayer! RAW


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-10-01 18:02 [#01350438]
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I have a Slayer badge on my wee guitar amp. I found it on a
train one day. I've never listened to Slayer, but it's a
nice badge shaped like a sword and that.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-01 18:02 [#01350439]
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Stand out in the cold for a while with your water filled ear
(if autum has reached scottland?) and getan ear infection.
Then stay home from work for a week.
Masturbate and make music.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:03 [#01350440]
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Hell yes! Napalm Death is great. I have Scum and Utopia
Banished. I've been seriously listening to Utopia as of late
even though most people don't seem to like it all that much.
I'll tell you what grind band/album I really love is - (I
bet no has ever heard of it) Disharmonic Orchestra's Not to
Be Undimensional Consciousness (released in the US on
Nuclear Blast America in like 1992). I can't find that son
of a bitch on CD and I want it!


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:05 [#01350444]
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By the way, I'm totally into Dillinger Escape Plan - this
being my first listen. My neighbors fucking hate me right
now. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-10-01 18:12 [#01350450]
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Is that because of the music or because you randomly scream
from time to time?


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:14 [#01350451]
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Yes, Iron Maiden is the shit. My older cousin gave me all
of vinal albums in 1991 and among them was Madien's double
live album "Live after Death". Holy fucking shit. I loved
and hated that album - I hated it because i would never see
that show. However, a few months later i was at the mall
with my mom and in the Sam Goody store they had that concert
on VHS cassette tape!! I begged her to get it for me, and
being pretty cool, she did. Awesome. Years later, after I
thought I was way to fucking cool for silly spandex metal I
put that tape in one night while I was smoking grass just
for a laugh - and holy shit, the music was completely
amazing! Dueling harmonic guitars and Dickenson going
"AEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!"


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:17 [#01350452]
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Both - why do you ask?


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 18:26 [#01350458]
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suicidal tendencies and nuclear assault are two bands i
recently started listening to again in a throwback to my
early days as a metalhead.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-01 18:27 [#01350460]
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ARCTURUS AGGGH HELLHAMMERRRRR UGGHG

I don't listen to metal much, but a lot of people with taste
I respect listen to a lot of uberpretentious metal, and I'm
interested and I've given a lot of it some test drives.
Dimmu Borgir, Emperor, Tiamat, a few others... but I haven't
been able to delve too deep into the genre. It's not high
enough on my list of priorities, but maybe someday.

But The Sham Mirrors remains my favorite metal album of that
ilk. All time, the stuff that I started out with so many
years ago, I still love the most. Black Sabbath, Metallica,
Judas Priest, the usual suspects.

Especially Black Sabbath, I've always been totally crazy
about them and always will be. A remarkable band.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2004-10-01 18:29 [#01350461]
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Yeah they are the shit (or where)
Live after death is awesome =)

My older brother had all their albums and eps on vinyl and i
used to sit and just watch the amazing artwork for hours
while listening. There where so much details.
My favorite covers are "Powerslave" and "Somwhere in time" .


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2004-10-01 18:32 [#01350465]
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i really dislike dimmu borgir, although they've got some
hilariously overdone lyrics, as well as a completely
pretentious live show. but thats most metal.

"i sit in the shadows, tormenting a christian soul". hah.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:35 [#01350466]
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Same here! I did eventually pick up Somewhere in Time on
CD, and I love it. However, reading reviews on the net a lot
of people (for some reason) slag that album. I don't get it.
By the way, have you ever seen the video version of Live
After Death? If not, I highly recommend it (even though I
have yet to see it on DVD).


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:36 [#01350468]
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Shit, it was metal that really really got me into music to
begin with. Anyone else? For me it was Metallica's Black
Album. My friend one two tickets to a show in Atlanta when I
was in 8th grade and I was ... reborn.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-01 18:37 [#01350469]
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Shit, I mean "won" (as in on the local radio station)


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-10-01 18:41 [#01350475]
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Metallica had a huge effect on me as a youth... they may
have been the first band I REALLY felt strongly about,
certainly the first I started to build up a big collection
for and spent a fortune on. Obtaining the Live Shit boxed
set, that was like Christmas.

I still love them, even Load and Reload. And the rapid
little drums and buzzsaw guitar on Justice still gets me
goin'.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-10-01 19:14 [#01350498]
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oh man you're in for a treat. which release?


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-02 21:18 [#01351300]
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Claculating Infinity

Crazy


 

offline idle interloper on 2004-10-02 22:00 [#01351313]
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That ones great, as is the Mike Patton one. The new one is
sort of dissapointing to me. It's like they halfway
abandoned their sound. But I guess it is good that they are
trying to expand.

Also, Slayer is great, but does anyone else agree that
they'd be much better if they ditched the stupid guitar
solos?
It usually ruins the whole doom-ish mood and gloomy timbre.
It's all scary and powerful sounding one minute, and then
all of a sudden it's like the guy is trying to show us how
many non-fitting notes he can play in 35 seconds. I mean,
can you even make any good melodies to go over those type of
rhythm guitar parts anyway?
...Just my two cents. I know many of you probably don't take
the whole genre too seriously, but it seems the actual band
does, and it just makes it seem like even more of a joke
when those fucking wank-filled solos appear in the mix.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-02 22:13 [#01351314]
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Yeah, I used to hate guitar solos (especially after I went
from being a metalhead to a punk), but looking back on it
now, those solos DO have a place in some music. My absolute
favorite metal soloing is Iron Maiden. Those dueling melodic
guitar solos add alot to that particular sound they had.
Also, Metallica's old stuff had some pretty cool solo work
by Kirk.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-02 22:17 [#01351315]
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But what I really hated when I was into Slayer and other
death metal stuff was how they would try so hard to be all
tough and evil looking, and then you would notice that they
were wearing these really ridiculous looking white tennis
shoes. Steel-toed boots are tough. White sneakers ain't.


 

offline idle interloper on 2004-10-02 23:25 [#01351320]
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Yes, there definitely is a place for guitar solos when done
well, and in the right places, but I was just trying to
make the point that with those sludgy atonal-sounding
death-metal type rhythm guitar parts there rarely is any
room for a solo to fit melodically in any way. It just seems
like they put them in because they are supposed to, and in
that type of music they usually do very little to take the
song anywhere else and are really more of a display of their
guitar playing speed/proficiency than anything.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-10-02 23:30 [#01351321]
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metal sucks. i cant beleive i used to be into it.


 

offline idle interloper on 2004-10-02 23:38 [#01351323]
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Will you say the same thing in five years about our hallowed
"'idm'?
You may say "no" now, but you would've probably said "FUCK
I'm gonna be a metalhead for life, Man!" back then.

But, as usual, I have no real point.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-10-03 00:56 [#01351333]
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yeah, if i'd stuck to my disliking the music i liked i could
have never gotten into idm and dance to klf again


 

offline idle interloper on 2004-10-03 01:04 [#01351336]
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Disliking the music you liked?


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-10-03 01:44 [#01351338]
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like, say, you liked metal and now you hate it
see when i was small i liked the klf and the pet shop boys
and stupid tapes with bad dance music, and then i became
all, i like guitar music and dance music is stupid, and now
i like dance again


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-10-03 16:48 [#01352045]
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oooooo. their best work.

and possibly one of the best albums of all time.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-03 16:54 [#01352048]
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What's your take on their new one, should I get it?


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-10-03 17:05 [#01352068]
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it's good. some very standout tracks.

one or two tracks i don't really like at all, but for the
most part it's good stuff.

i'd get it.


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-10-03 17:08 [#01352073]
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oh and it's a different singer.

everything up until calculating infinity was one singer
(damion i think) then the irony is a dead scene ep was a one
time thing with mike patton. now it's a different guy, but
he's good.


 

offline r40f from qrters tea party on 2004-10-03 18:21 [#01352089]
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oh, i respectfully disagree... i heard some of these tracks
and hated them. and i really dig all their other albums,
but i can't stand their new sound.


 

offline Jocco from Banned! Free Jocco! (United States) on 2004-10-03 19:25 [#01352116]
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Also, like idle interloper mentioned, they did sorta halfway
abandon their sound. Their sound is like a mix of their old
stuff and, as many people put it, Faith No More (or insert
any other non-Fantomas Patton project) to an extent. The new
guy, he even sounds very similar to Mike Patton, too close
for a lot of people, including me. Unlike idle, I do think
they implemented the 'Faith No More' sound into their own
sound rather effectively (well.. not sure if this is why he
was dissapointed or if it's just because of their new
sound). It's not quite as chaotic, but it's still a solid
release. As much as I liked Calculating Infinity, I'm also
glad it's not another CI.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-03 19:28 [#01352121]
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Noting your avatar, I saw Today is the Day at a tiny club
back in 1994 or 5. I had no clue who they were and the
guitarist's amp fucked up after 3 songs or so.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-03 19:30 [#01352124]
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Fuck it, I'll probably just get it. That and an old Death
or Cynic album.


 

offline ChildrenTalking from United States on 2004-10-03 20:26 [#01352163]
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*BITES INTO RAW MEAT WHILE BANGING HEAD TO HEAVY METALS*


 

offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2004-10-03 20:29 [#01352165]
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offline KainiIndustries from over the roof floats billy on 2004-10-03 20:30 [#01352166]
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offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-09 16:47 [#01357957]
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Ok, I went a little crazy today and went out and bought
three old school death metal albums.

1. Carcass - "Heartwork"

2. Death - "Individual Thought Patterns" (Remember seeing
the video for "The Philosopher" on Headbangers Ball back in
93? I do.)

3. Cynic - "Focus" (This one is just fucking odd)


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-09 18:52 [#01358109]
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Carcass is the shit. Who else likes them besides me yo?
I've had Necroticism since it was first released in 93, but
only recently have I really gotten into that record. Because
of that I seeked out the follow-up album "Heartwork" today.
I remember seein the video for the title track on
Headbanger's Ball when I was a kid and not really digging
it. Great shit this album, listening to it now. These guys
are one of the best METAL bands of all time, regardless of
sub-genre.


 

offline tallyho from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2004-10-09 19:36 [#01358130]
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yeah, Carcass's Heartwork is a brilliant album!!!
absolutely love it.

i think this album is the grindcore equivalent of Ae's LP5.


 

offline Empiricus from South Carolina (United States) on 2004-10-09 19:39 [#01358132]
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Why is that? What do you think about Necroticism?


 

offline tallyho from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2004-10-09 20:01 [#01358140]
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maybe it's cause they're both melodic yet a bit celebral.
but actually, it's hard to explain. i just get the same
feeling while listening to these two albums.

ah, and Necroticism is excellent, too! such a perfectly
flowing album. it's also my fav, along with Heartwork... i
must say i've always had a weak spot for Carcass :D

their Swansong was good as well, but it's a bit more of a
mainstream thing i think.


 


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