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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 20:43 [#01345047]
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what a totally fucked, great, scary book.
anyone read it? i am at the moment, and i'm totally blown away.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-26 20:44 [#01345049]
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who is it by?
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 21:02 [#01345067]
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depending on which layer of abstraction you choose (from most to least)
zampano, johnny truant, mark z. danielewski
(really written by mark z. danielewski, though)
the amazon reviews might give you a flavour of what it's about.
This review is a bit pitchfork but it's good nonetheless.
it's the most disorientating thing i've ever read... it's almost like a novel and a critique of the art of criticism at the same time, if that makes sense (i guess it won't until you read the book).
and like i said, very, very scary too. the scariest thing about it is how blank and impersonal the scariness of it all is.
that second link kinda gives you an impression of the emptiness that the book is about that's so fucking frightening.
it's the sort of book where self-reference is almost necessary or essential when describing it, because i've never really read anything like it.
it's like thomas pynchon writing a lovecraft novel that's edited by william burroughs or some such shit.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-09-26 21:12 [#01345072]
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yeah i'm reading it right now. I'm about 2/3 of the way through and its really crazy.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 21:21 [#01345074]
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i'm in about the same spot as you... the tapes filmed by the guy who went crazy (i've also skipped ahead to the letters from truant's mother, which were fucked). i've actually had to put this book down and not read any more at certain points... the last time i had to do that was with wilson's illuminatus! trilogy
i've just come across this interview, which describes the book far better than any review i've read so far.
this is a typical page from chapter 9 :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-26 21:24 [#01345075]
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I read it about 4 years ago, I think i would appreciate it more now.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 21:25 [#01345076]
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actually in that interview he mentions emily dickinson as an influence. i'd not considered it before, but that is totally fucking spot on.
his stuff has the same surreal (from "because i could not stop for death")... 'we passed the alien corn/or rather it passed us' feel to it that emily's best poems do :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-26 21:45 [#01345084]
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akshually, he doesn't mention her as an influence, just to give an example, akshually.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 21:49 [#01345088]
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yeah, but i found it very apt nevertheless, and i'd never considered it before.
i used to love emily's stuff when i studied it in school
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-09-26 21:52 [#01345092]
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i just read the first couple pages on amazon. seems like it could get pretty intense. i'm going to buy this.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-26 21:56 [#01345099]
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I really made fun of her when we had to critique her poems in school. Well, that's what I always did with poetry since I thought it was such wank.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-09-26 22:00 [#01345102]
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most poetry is wank
i really liked a few poets all the same though... eliot, dickinson, hopkins (hopkins... lol consumed by catholic guilt, makes great reading as a result)
fuck the 'metaphysical' poets though, at least the poets eng lit has labelled as metaphysical... donne etc.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-09-26 22:00 [#01345103]
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poetry is only beautiful to the person who wrote it.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-27 08:10 [#01345377]
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all this bullshit about poetry.
there is absolutely great poetry to be found, but you have to go out and look for it, as with any discipline in the arts.
just like you didn't just keep listening to Billboard-music and went out to hear something different, you can easily do the same for poetry.
"poetry is only beautiful to the person who wrote it."
that's just essence of wank.
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