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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-09-12 15:12 [#01332992]
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For Info: "Militants pounded central Baghdad with one of their most intense mortar barrages ever, targeting the Green Zone and destroying a US vehicle along a major street.
At least 13 people were killed and 55 wounded when a US helicopter fired at crowds around the vehicle, Iraqi officials said."
- "A US Apache attack helicopter swooped down and opened fire around the Bradley. Witnesses said several people, including a correspondent for the Arabic language Al-Arabiya television station, were killed."
This kinda shit makes me fucking pissed off with the US force. For them it's all force and no tact. Fucking idiots.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 15:15 [#01332993]
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well, there are allways mistakes at war. need a proof ? at IWWII 1 on 5 allies soldiers was killed by his fellows by mistake.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-12 15:16 [#01332996]
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soldiers are not civilians.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 15:17 [#01332999]
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i know, but this doesnt change the fact that there are allways mistakes. if you start the war you nend to count them - if not, there would be no wars.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-12 15:19 [#01333000]
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that's nice to say when you're anywhere NOT involved with that war, but to the people who died and their families, it means shit all.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 15:19 [#01333001]
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i feel sorry for those who died, its just that im not very upset on US because of this, you cant blame US for all victims. if saddam would be smarter tthe war wouldnt happend, i guess.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-12 15:20 [#01333004]
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I'm surprised this is even on the news, considering how often it happens.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-12 15:26 [#01333009]
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that might be the worst thing - it doesn't surprise you anymore. it's become normal.
I would like, at this juncture, to make a comparison to the thread you bumped about people wanting to read nasty sites filled with evil details.. at the same time lots of people want to read that shit, but the continuieng nastiness on the news just becomes "boring".
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-12 15:39 [#01333021]
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Ex-act-ly. It's strange how quickly we can adapt to the murder of people who might be just like us. If the reports were filled with gruesome details about crying children, blown-off limbs, and weeping mothers, people might actually take some notice.
That's scary in itself to be honest, we have to have the graphic bloody detail to even care about what's going on.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-12 15:39 [#01333023]
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USA
USA
USA
Who cares if a couple more towel heads are removed from existance...at least they won't be claiming asylum in the UK now.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-09-12 15:42 [#01333024]
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come on someone fall for the bait...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-12 15:43 [#01333025]
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God-danged camel-jockeys. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em right up their sandy arses.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-12 15:58 [#01333044]
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to think that people would actually voluntarily want to live in the UK.. that alone should be proof enough that these people come from a country in terrible war with some other country or maybe a spacesquid or evil thoughts coming from Jason Holland.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-12 16:22 [#01333076]
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WTF?!!
I just seen this on the news, there was a reporter talking to the camera and their were crowds of 'civilians' around the tank and 'boom!' the US Apache helicopter fires both missiles and machine gun down on them.
The reporter, two children and more were killed.
CRAZY, WTF were they thinking?!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-12 16:28 [#01333094]
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the Apache helicopters were instructed by the US military to destroy the vehicle to prevent looting...
Worth killing 13 people, I think not.
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k_maty
on 2004-09-12 16:34 [#01333100]
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I think you mean the pilot killed 13 people.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-12 16:38 [#01333103]
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well, yes the pilot... are they really allowed to fire on civilians like that? Missiles and machine gun fire on a crowd of civilians? Thats crazy,
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 16:48 [#01333108]
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well, at the other hand, some of these civils are responsible for all these attacks on soldiers, and for kidnappin' and head-cutting, so lets say straight- it seems the chances of hitting bad guys were big enough to US military goverment , coz i dont believe in "mistaken shot". all these operations are so codificated and theres so many restrictions, that mistakes are almost imposible.
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-12 17:00 [#01333115]
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I think you might need to go here.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-12 17:01 [#01333116]
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"some of these civils are responsible for all these attacks on soldiers,"
you said it, "some" may have been... so they fire missiles on children and civilians because some "might" have been responsible for attacks on soldiers? Still, it doesn't surprise me.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 17:07 [#01333121]
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probably thats the way the US military goverment thinks- its not my opinion, its how i see the way of thinking of american goverment - i said once im sorry for those who died.
but really, do you believe in SUCH accidents ? if this would be a car accident, but not fuckin missiles in crowd, man.
thats shockin for me too, but i think that US might have some purpose in it- and of course you will never hear it from officials.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 17:09 [#01333123]
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hehe, im not naive. i just know that US Army does things that are OTT in every war.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-09-12 17:21 [#01333134]
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I bet there will be no apology.
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ChiasticSlide
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2004-09-12 17:41 [#01333149]
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"i feel sorry for those who died, its just that im not very
upset on US because of this, you cant blame US for all victims. if saddam would be smarter tthe war wouldnt happend, i guess."
Wrong. In an attempt to avoid war, Saddam complied with all of the demands that the US made and as we all know, there were no WMDs anyway. So tell me, in what way could he have been "smarter" and avoided the war?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 17:44 [#01333151]
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he could be smarter in past - avoidin' war with iran, gasing innocent peoples- these fact made the war happen, not the fact from months before war. imo.
saddam has been stupid in past, and in last few months before invading iraq, he could do nothing.
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ChiasticSlide
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2004-09-12 17:47 [#01333152]
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The "fact" that made the war in Iraq lies far, far beneath the ground.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-12 17:53 [#01333153]
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We supported his war with Iran, i.e., we funded it.
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k_maty
on 2004-09-12 17:56 [#01333155]
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You did? Haha, SUCKER
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-12 18:01 [#01333159]
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thats the other problem. true and sad one also.politics...
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Rostasky
from United States on 2004-09-12 18:49 [#01333175]
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Strange. People seems to die alot.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-12 19:00 [#01333181]
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not that strange, people tend to die at some point.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-12 19:46 [#01333193]
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missles are not shot into a crowd.
get your facts straight, people.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-12 19:50 [#01333196]
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30mm rounds that are made to penetrate armor (i.e, tanks) are rarely used to fight off crowds.
AH-64s are not sent into battle (i.e., mission) to fight off ground forces.
Please, get some facts before posting.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-09-12 19:56 [#01333201]
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"This kinda shit makes me fucking pissed off with the US
force. For them it's all force and no tact. Fucking idiots."
Un-credited source, reporting on what is going on in Iraq.
And you say the US is all force and no tact?
Evidently you didnt' pay much attn: in your history classes.
Let me know when you are ready to listen.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-09-12 21:42 [#01333271]
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I don't really know what the war was for, other than maybe the classic spread of democracy. The wmd thing is retarded, but if he did have them, he had just under a years worth of advanced warning to hide them or transport them elsewhere...
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-13 03:48 [#01333388]
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not you again.
There was a crowd around the vehicle (the pilot fired at the vehicle, probably knowing people around it would be killled) just people standing there looking, including children. You can't say its not true because it was caught on camera... the reporter talking into the camera was killed when the missile hit.
Great way to make more people love the US. Your so going to get rid of terrorism this way.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-13 03:49 [#01333389]
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"in your history classes."
carpet bombing of Japan anyone?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-13 03:59 [#01333397]
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i see the front lies between US and UK. thats not too smart.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-13 04:08 [#01333399]
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between the US the rest of the world might be more accurate. Bush has isolated the US with his policies, we can only pray he doesn't get in November.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-13 04:13 [#01333402]
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to quote the BBC:
"crowds came out to celebrate or simply watch, American attack helicopters were sent in, their mission the US military says, to destroy the vehicle to preven looting, no one here expected what happened next..."
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-13 04:16 [#01333406]
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yeah, but you NEED to know that media are wallways one 0sided. not liking US is very popular today, therefore you wont find any relations how solkdiershepled iraqis ( ans they are doing this for sure ) , but you will be attacked with news about "how they fucked up again".
war is war, no time for regreting when its started.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-09-13 04:26 [#01333417]
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I agree with that but I don't understand how anyone can think it will get any better with Bush as president for 'another' 4 years.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-09-13 04:29 [#01333421]
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you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-09-13 04:32 [#01333425]
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yeah, bush is deffinately ended. the problem is - what will do the next one.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-09-13 05:36 [#01333450]
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I've never felt more like bombing iraq when the rangers boys are on the attack oh rangers! you got me bombing iraq.
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