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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:04 [#01331873]
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Will you look back in a few years, and notice what a conventional boring person you really are ?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-09-11 09:05 [#01331875]
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ban.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-09-11 09:10 [#01331881]
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if i am any example, yes you will :)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:10 [#01331882]
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Most people become more igonrant, bitter and cynical as they get older
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-11 09:10 [#01331883]
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Teenage rrebellion sometimes is a must on the rroad to finding out just who the fuck you arre and what you want. It's oh so cool to mock it and act like it's below you when you'rre past that stage.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 09:11 [#01331885]
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why do you think conventional is boring?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-09-11 09:11 [#01331886]
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i look back on my rebellious self and think 'what a weinor, id knock him.'
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-09-11 09:11 [#01331887]
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I never understood this "finding out who you are" thing. Who could know better than yourself?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 09:12 [#01331889]
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you're not conventinal but you sure are a boring bastard
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2004-09-11 09:12 [#01331890]
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i think more the question is finding who you can be
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-11 09:13 [#01331892]
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lacking identity is verry harrd.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:13 [#01331893]
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It is....you have your fat wife, your boring job, blablabla...and thats all there is to life, well for most people.....and I can see myself going that road too...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-11 09:15 [#01331899]
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Bring back the cane.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-11 09:15 [#01331900]
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i don't need a few years to figure out that.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:16 [#01331901]
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So, whats your favourite THE CURE song ???
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 09:16 [#01331902]
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I look around me, in the places I visit, and see kids acting "rebellious"; trying to stand out. They're just apeing their peers, wearing the same clothes, getting the same hair, getting tattoos, buying brand-name trainers or some such shite, causing trouble by hassling those more mature than they are claiming that maturity equals boring conformity, adopting the same speech forms and phrases and banging on about how they need to express themselves as individuals.
God I wish they'd just grow up and realise just what a waste of space they really are.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-09-11 09:17 [#01331903]
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If i die and I don't have a wife and childrren i'll be a sad sad old man.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:21 [#01331909]
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And how should young people spend their time ? They need a vehicle for acting out their teenage rebellion.....so they can look back in a few years and notice what conventional boring persons they really?
So, what if they like Rimbaud, and linking park ? People who criticze them are mostly passive aggressive absolutists who can only gain their psuedo self esteem by attacking others....
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 09:24 [#01331915]
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hahaha! do you even know what that means or did you copy & paste it from the lastest web page you accidently discovered whilst mistyping a porn website?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-11 09:25 [#01331917]
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uhh...i don't know..could be "lullaby"..
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 09:25 [#01331918]
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I disagree. Young people should spend their time doing something more worthwhile than abusing the system that supports them. Anarchism is all fine and well in fiction but a world powered by it doesn't work. There should be no need for teenagers to rebel in the first place if they accepted their place and used their time to develop themselves in less destructive ways.
Criticism of youth might be done by passive aggressive absolutists who can only gain their psuedo self esteem by attacking others, but not exclusively. See, here I'm doing it!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:27 [#01331921]
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Yeah ok
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-09-11 09:29 [#01331924]
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We're watching the first generation of moody adolescents all too willing to put their beyond-parody thoughts and "insights" into the public domain on a global scale. I kept a diary when I was 14-18, I read it a few short years later and I was mortified at what a nob I was. Of course you think you know everything before you realise that actually you know nothing. I think in a few short years a lot of people will be begging Google and Archive.org to erase their self-indulgent navel-gazing frankly embarrassing wank off of the caches in case their employers/friends/family found out whiney little shits they actually were and continue to be.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:30 [#01331925]
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And what about those who find "Jeebus" or "Islam" ? Or any other RELIGION, or IDEOLOGY that can be easily abused, to manipulate a young persons mind ?
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 09:34 [#01331927]
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Well, what about it? I didn't say I could make the world a perfect place.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:36 [#01331929]
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Yeah, but thats the REASON why the world is such a shitty place....most people dont know who they are, who they belong to...and in the worst case these people sometimes become, terrorists.....
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uzim
on 2004-09-11 09:47 [#01331937]
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dunno.
i don't want no kids, and i'm not sure about a wife. well, i'm 18 and not even looking for a girlfriend yet so what do i know. but anyway i've never been a rebel, i just don't care a lot and i'm much more a fatalist than a combative person... i keep dreaming about stuff all the time, head in the clouds or how do you say it in english - apart from that i guess i'm boring, lazy, not very smart, but i have positive sides too (dreaming is positive i think). i just hope i don't become a down-to-earth person, that would make me some kind of crappy person without any interest whatsoever really.
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uzim
on 2004-09-11 09:51 [#01331941]
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...but i'm not a sad or bitter person, just a bit ill-at-ease : )
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-09-11 09:52 [#01331943]
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It doesn't really matter what these kids feel that they're achieving by rebelling, they will change. Anarchy has been completely soiled though, I bet that only a small percent could even give a concrete definition of the word but that goes for a lot of other people too.
What exactly do you intend to do about the world, Monoid? That might be one of the reasons why the world is a shitty place, but it's upto everyone to create a reason to live as there is no universal reason to live.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-11 09:56 [#01331947]
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i think creating a family could be the universal reason...
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 09:59 [#01331948]
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What am I about to do ? Thats not the question, the question is WHAT I can do....and the answer is simple, either Ill be part of a system where everyone tries to fuck over everyone, if I chose not to be part of such a system, I get fucked over anyway..... (does that even make sense....)
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 10:02 [#01331950]
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So you want and expect life to be the way that makes you feel the best? The world isn't a big machine that's "out to fuck you or let you fuck others". The world is just a big place with people in it. How you perceive it determines your reactions to events. If you don't want to fuck people over or get fucked, change your perceptions.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-09-11 10:05 [#01331952]
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you do agree though that life is getting more and more stressfull? which must mean we're doing something wrong...it's not people friendly world anymore. you can pretend you don't care and live happily ofcourse..i can't though.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 10:08 [#01331953]
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This world is a vampire.....and im raging against the machine, one more time, because im beautiful, no matter what you say
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 10:12 [#01331957]
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That's not quite what I meant. I didn't mean "avoid problems in life by re-spelling them" or somesuch.
I do agree that the people in the world seem to be becoming more violent and agressive, and I often think "the world is going to hell". I do care, but there's little I can do about it, and I have my own problems, so the small things I do do that may, if not make things better, at least not make them worse, don't get noticed. All I can do is to try and not let it get to me. Most people find a way to do this without much effort.
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 10:12 [#01331959]
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Oh dear. I assume you are not yet out of your teens, or very immature for your age.
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Torture Garden
from Feelin' 2Pacish on 2004-09-11 10:17 [#01331964]
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If you put it that way, a family could be a universal reason. But then again, not everyone wants a family. Once people have hooked up with their chosen partner they just end up with one sooner or later, fair point Tolstoyed.
Xceque, You can't just change your perceptions to that of societies without having some sort of conflict with yourself if your initial perceptions were really what you thought, people have morals and ethics. Are you prepared to step on someones head to get to the top? Because life naturally puts you in opposition and conflict with others.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 10:18 [#01331965]
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What ? Never asked yourself what people are responsible for making Britney Spears a millionaire ? The same people who are responsible for 9/11, if you ask me, this world is ruled by LIARS, and who lies best wins.....no one is really free, its an illusion
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 10:23 [#01331968]
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I didn't mean your perceptions as to what actual events happen, but your reactions to them and how you let them affect you. Monoid asked what he can do, so that was my suggestion. I have a number of others.
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xceque
on 2004-09-11 10:25 [#01331969]
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Er, I was with you up until Britney.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-09-11 10:43 [#01331982]
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Im just horribly bored
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-09-11 10:48 [#01331988]
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And conventional.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-11 11:42 [#01332032]
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you're communicating that very well.
in fact, you are not only bored, you inadvertently bore everyone else!
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-11 11:51 [#01332041]
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What the fuck is a "rebel", exactly?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 11:53 [#01332043]
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james dean, sid vicious, mike gatting, ...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-11 11:56 [#01332046]
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Ian Botham: Cricketer Without A Cause.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-11 11:57 [#01332047]
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re·bel intr.v. re·belled, re·bel·ling, re·bels
1. To refuse allegiance to and oppose by force an established government or ruling authority.
2. To resist or defy an authority or a generally accepted convention.
3. To oppose the current rulership of the Empire. 4. To feel or express strong unwillingness or repugnance: She rebelled at the unwelcome suggestion.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 12:00 [#01332048]
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Robert Wilhelm Bunsen - Rebel Without A Gauze
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-09-11 12:01 [#01332050]
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sorry about that, couldn't resist
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-09-11 12:03 [#01332052]
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For shame, you seem to be describing the verb form, when in fact i was looking for the definition of the noun. To the bottom of the class with you. Again.
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