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offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:37 [#01324151]
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It's become quite a concern of mine recently that my young
nephew watched way too much TV. My sister is well aware that
he could well be mildly autistic and seems prepared to do
anything to help develop him (particularly his speech)...
but seems oblivious to the fact he watches too much
television.

Now I don't mean all day, his parents do take him out
plenty and make sure he gets exercise and everything, but
every time I go down there one of these channels are on, and
they don't seen to take into account the dangers of being
absorbed in something so mindwarping (or at least what I
think is mindwarping). I know TV can be plenty beneficial at
any age for a number of reasons, but...

I'm wondering, can TV really do that much harm? I asked my
mum if I watched TV a lot at his age (4), and she said only
an hour or 2 a day (3 or 4 if the weather was bad). Keeping
in mind I watched stuff with actual humans and storylines
(that are little more complex than going to the beach for a
day) rather than stupid-ass cartoons which filled my mind
with garbage, giving me this vocabulary that is mistaken for
cute.. when all it is is that he has already sat through so
much of it the only words he has really learnt are those
that have been taught him by these programmes. I'm cool if
they're educational and everything, but if you talk to him
he regularly spouts out-of-context shit from one of these
shows, or phrases in the kind of voice you know has come
from the mouths of these patronising characters with pollute
the TV screen.

Babbling there, but do you see my point? Is there a chance
my nephew will still grow into a a healthy individual, or be
corrupted to forever love TV and everything that it pukes
out?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:40 [#01324156]
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well, show him the internet.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:44 [#01324159]
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He's too stupid for that.


 

offline uviol from United States on 2004-09-04 09:47 [#01324161]
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I know there's some decent educational curriculum delivered
in many kids' shows.. but usually the vehicle its delivered
in (Gullah gullah island? dora the explora'?) seems a bit
dubious and potentially mindwarping. But then again, much
of my preschool education came from a heterogeneous
aggregate of gigantic muppets and a sexually-ambiguous dude
in a cardigan sweater.. so who knows.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:49 [#01324164]
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I may well be shit, but if it was just once a day, fine. He
probably gets around 6 hours a day.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 09:51 [#01324168]
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there used to be a thing called "outside"


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:52 [#01324169]
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it's funny you're asking us...there's plenty of addicts
here, which is probably even worse than watching too much tv
:)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:54 [#01324172]
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I was really asking about television interfering with
childrens' development.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 09:55 [#01324173]
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NO !
this is music and what we like, not the bullshit crap they
are trying to sell us and the false ideass they are putting
into peoples heads every minute

fuck you, i wont do what ya tell me


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-09-04 09:56 [#01324175]
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he's only 4...i wouldn't worry at least untill he's 10.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 09:57 [#01324178]
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i never watch tv. most of the stuff is even more
mind-numbing than the internet.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324180]
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that means: yes, imo watching more than 1-1.5 hours tv per
day is bad for a kid.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324181]
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I blame his trouble with speaking on TV.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 09:58 [#01324182]
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Thank you for your opinion :u)


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 10:02 [#01324187]
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no, thank YOU for making this wonderful thread.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-09-04 10:05 [#01324192]
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perhaps you could sign him to some group where children
who're into cartoons or tv in general do stuff related to
it, and something more creative than just to stare at tv all
day + he'll be in company of othe kids.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-09-04 10:05 [#01324194]
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we have no cable, no satelittte, just the basic 6 channel
that we get from out intenna, and thats almost to many
sometimes

CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT SOME LOSERS, PAY LIKE $50-60 OR MORE
FOR 500 CHANNELS.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2004-09-04 10:07 [#01324195]
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yeah. people are stupid.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 10:52 [#01324245]
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Yes :u(


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-04 12:02 [#01324360]
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he's four years old.

I bet he's more into the colours, shapes and sounds then the
actual stories and/or dialogue anyway.

I wouldn't worry so much..

..yet.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 12:14 [#01324376]
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sigh


 

offline SValx from United Kingdom on 2004-09-04 12:19 [#01324385]
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I think you should try to help him more. Read to him or play
with him more in the garden when he comes over. He obviously
really likes you and looks up to you so if you suggested
doing something else it would give him someone older to talk
to and help his speaking and help develop him a bit.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-09-04 12:28 [#01324406]
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it's just not that black-and-white a situation.

I mean, most of us will have seen shitloads of dumb cartoons
and other crap on tv and most of us have turned into pretty
intelligent individuals, who can now clearly define which
tv-programmes are crap and which aren't.

I've seen plenty of crappy tv as a youngster and I don't
think it has had that much effect on me, yowzers no!


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 13:31 [#01324514]
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I really don't think TV does all that much damage to the
young psyche. I know so many people who had/have busy
parents, and were sat in front of the tube for hours on end,
ad nauseum, but there comes to time when they'll outgrow it.
I don't see any lasting effects on my many many younger
cousins, I've watched tons of kids grow up, they're all
around me all the time, and quite a few of them have at one
point been couch potatoes. I have tons and tons of
experience with them. They start with TV, and move onto
video games, and then onto... well, normalcy. A balance.

I just don't see the problem.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 13:34 [#01324520]
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He has mild autism. A problem.


 

offline sneakattack on 2004-09-04 13:35 [#01324521]
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I think watching TV is harmful--it makes people passive
participants. In my classes the majority of the room sits
silent and becomes catatonic when a question pops up--active
interaction in some sort of presentation medium has been
lost.

you could argue that one has to already have such a trait to
let it be expanded thusly, but in that case I still see it
as bad.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 13:39 [#01324527]
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Block the channels, delete them from the TV's memory so the
only way he can get to them would be manually, with the
remote. Put the remote in an out of the way spot.

Grit your teeth and brave whatever his reaction is.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 15:16 [#01324595]
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Well, I'm not his parent, so that's not for me to do. I'm a
little anxious about bringing this up with my sister..
she'll probably defend her parenting well enough for me to
back down. I'm a crap uncle :u(


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-09-04 16:04 [#01324619]
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Fuck that. Nobody's perfect, no parent can possibly cover
all the bases. I often confront my aunts and uncles about my
cousins, and tell him they're into this shit and they
shouldn't be, or doing this behind your back unbeknownst to
you, and I occasionally WILL question, bluntly, their
methods. For example, my cousin is a big Grand Theft Auto
fan. And he's 6. See the problem? And of course my aunt is
totally ignorant on certain medias. He wanted to play my
copy of Vice City, and I told him no. Being a spoilt brat,
he told my aunt that I was being mean. She confronted me and
asked why I'm being such a selfish shellfish, and I told her
she's fucking nuts for even considering letting him go near
that shit. Totally clueless on this subject, that woman.

Now, in your situation, TV is a different thing, more broad,
not as niche. But STILL, that doesn't mean your sister is
educated and aware about it (I'm just assuming she's not for
the duration of the post, I may be wrong). Has she watched
the shows with him, regularly? Or is she too busy to
UNDERSTAND what her son is watching/getting influenced by?
Parents don't have time to know about this ''kid's stuff'',
they don't have time to get a good idea of what their kids
are into. And catching a minute or two of it here and there
isn't enough to get the whole picture. But you're younger,
probably don't have as many responsiblities, and you DO know
how dumb and brain numbing some of this shit can be.

If she takes it personally, too bad. How could she POSSIBLY
think you're a ''crap uncle'' if you bring up a subject like
this? You're clearly not trying to do any HARM to him, and
if her ego is dented and she takes it that way, well, tough
titties said the kitty. I'm speak up about things like this
often, and nobody seems offended. If you're that worried
about it, I'd say tell her what's on your mind. What's the
worst that can happen? I doubt she'll disown you for voicing
a concern like this.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-04 17:49 [#01324744]
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You're right. Thanks for the advice.


 


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