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inspired by the "" thread by nacmat and the conversation that we got into: do you think that there will be another groundbreaking artist in the future like for example Kraftwerk, Richard D James and Autechre? I don´t think so because we reached the top of all hearable sounds in the last 10 years thanks to all kind of music gear and computers like with colors, in the last decade we managed to see/create all the possible colors we could make thanks to computers, we now only combine colors to create "new ones" I think that is what we have with sounds aswell now, I hope my feeling is wrong though... |
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what a silly question. "groundbreaking" is not just about new sounds. it is all about the combinations and recombinations. and even then - the colors-thing can be scientifically proven. how could you prove that all possible and/or hearable sounds have been made.. |
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No man , thats like saying theres an end to universe. If we want to see new colours we have to invent new eyes. |
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I don´t say it is, I think it is there is nothing to prove.. |
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there is if you're going to use that analogy. |
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it´s just a feeling I have... your answer is clear, you don´t think so |
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groundbreaking music has suffered a major blow because filesharing has hit a lot of musicians so badly that they can't make a living making music and now have to spend valuable time doing crappy day jobs, eg mike paradinas who recently had to go back to his old job at Boots the chemist |
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i don't think it's over, no... |
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stupid thread |
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well, i sure hope not... |
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Boots the chemist? what are you talking about. I agree it's shit that arists can't make a living just doing music, and despise the people who make them decay. |
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I hope so, I hate groundbreaking music. I want trouser splitting music. |
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music is for kids |
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what a silly answer, A recombination is like a reinvention and can never be groundbreaking, unless a newbie hears it for the first time. There is a limited range of frequencies you can hear, a limited possible number of melody-compositions, and a limited amount of bass-patterns (and so on) so technically at some point you will have heard anything, anything. only IF you will live for more than 500 years, though. It's all about trends, you see the big labels are avoiding the pure electronica now, you don't like the trend right now, you'll wait and be astonished a few years later. Or you can start hunting old classics, which can be extremely fun. Perhaps, when Richard was born 20 years later, you wouldn't have liked his music at all.... |
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You're right, A recombination is like a reinvention. But a recombination brings several ideas together to create something new. They're limits on what you can hear but new technology and new ground brings more possibilities on what you hear, such as Microtonal music. |
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One day I'll learn how to use fruity loops or some such and it'll be like Wylde Stallions but real |
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it can be a frustrating time for electronic music makers now. but the time will come again maybe in a few years or in 10 or 20 years? if some radical tech or convenient interface comes along. some lucky bastards will be pioneers again. but then again, new generation's revolution might not be to my taste like older generations don't get autechre or aphex. p.s. Even by today's tech, I think there's room for improvement. Just ppl are bit tired now. |
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Bah, bollocks. Groundbreaking music will never die, just like groundbreaking art will never die. It revolves around people interpreting the sounds in new ways, not in "how many combinations of sounds you can physically hear". It might not be groundbreaking in the sense of "creating a whole new (shudder) genre", but being truly, unselfconsciously creative is always groundbreaking. |
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music is art and indeed it resolves around and there sure will be stunning releases in the future... maybe my interpertation of groundbreaking is wrong... |
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exactly. |
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once robots take over the planet they will surpass our musical capabilities therefore making us sad, but happy at the same time. |
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OH FUCK I JUST LET ONE FLY AND I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE IT BEFORE!! if only I recorded it.. :( I vow to spend the rest of my life in reproducing exactly how I lived the last week, thus hoping to reproduce this almost mythical sound.. I tell you it exists! THERE IS HOPE FOR NEW MUSIC YET! |
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once again, lethargy has beaten me |
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COME ON QRTER, YOU CAN DO IT!!111 We're all rooting for you here. |
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I think that Kcinsu, aka Zeus makes groundbreaking music. Ochre is also one of the best artists on this board. I've been listening to 'The Current State of Sofia' (By Kcinsu) and the style is of a standard only comparable to the very best of the best. No way is this the end of groundbreaking music. The sky is the limit my friend. |
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*yawwn* |
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I can imagine some music software that could handle and manipulate and organize information even better than current software, as indirectly observed by listening to innovative tracks by, for example, schematic. However I can't imagine how to create such software exactly, except perhaps that evolution might play a role. The human, as a creator, is really an unnecessary middleman between the software and the output. |
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qrter: breaking wind for groundbreaking music. |
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first of all you'd have to work out how to program human error, random accident.. because that is one of the major functions that people creating electronic music with machines fulfill. which actually makes them an invaluable part of the equation.. as opposed to an unecessary middleman. |
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If you live to be 500, you won't hear everything there is to hear. In the span of someone's short life, you'll never run out of unique music, to YOU. Maybe you'll make some decent headway if you're a quadriplegic that spends 24 hours a day listening to 24 albums a day. Music's career has been long, varied and satisfying, a nice back catalogue. Eventually, maybe the ''unheard sounds'' cache will dwindle a BIT (I rarely hear something that makes me prick my ears up and say, ''whoa, what is THAT?), but I mean, it's not like that matters... we don't live long enough to hear the tip of the iceberg anyway. There's always something new, or old. There's so many sounds out there, people will be reconfiguring and mixing and matching them a little bit (or a lot) until we're extinct. |
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creative expression is not bound by the tools used to create. the limits are only defined by the artist's ability to imagine. has everything been imagined yet? absolutely not. |
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yes and also, music is about length. So you can possibly not hear everything, and everything cannot be made (due to lack of time, I mean what if someone would compose a 500-year composition, nobody would be able to hear the entire song). |
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this planet is a 5 billion year old song. |
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there is no end to it, just like theres no end to any other art |
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Ahhh who gives a fuck. I'm fine listening to Buck Owens, I don't need new ground breaking music. |
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1. this thread is great I love to see this threads about music thoughts 2. I totally disagree with aesthetics thought why? because I dont think all sounds have been already used and because I think there are still lots of ways of composing music we havent still invented or discovered and also: there is always something else to create or discover... I am sure people never thought there would ever exist a music more "strange" than stravinski´s when they listened to it 80 years ago |
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when someone says something like this, in the end it says more about their own imagination than anything else. |
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I always wonder with things like this, as to the person who will make something groundbreaking with music for and example, has never tried to play a synth, guitar etc... or stare till your eyes hurt at a pc to make a track just a thought |
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damn right! evolume: yeah, and your part includes marriage with a beautiful girl :) go go go evolume! |
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it is logic that I speak with my own imagination... there were a few moments in history where there happened something completely new, the piano for example the creation of electronic gear ment a whole new direction of making music, which many artists took the most out of it by now |
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no way. affordable computing is only 10-20 years old. we've only seen the beginning of what computers will be able to do with music. |
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look how long the guitar was around before "grunge" happened. |
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yeah its like look what electric guitars did in 1955 and what they did in 97 |
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And who says that electronic music has ended music as a groundbreaking artform? |
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they changed the sound, but it wasn´t new |
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