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nacmat
on 2004-07-28 12:18 [#01288726]
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in my case it all begun the 7th of january of 2002
I bought a double cd called drukqs... since then I might have bought almost 200 cds most of them idm related.
aphex has always been my favourite, as he was the first one I discovered, and he has released so much stuff that it took me a year and a half to get all the main releases (I have 27 cds) so he was always like the best and I was always discovering new things by him... most of them old things, but new for me
since the begining I did not only focus on aphex, I discovered this website in early january so soon (almost at the same time as drukqs) I started to get some autechre, squarepusher, uziq boc and plaid
I also discovered that I had already music has the right to children at home, when I didnt even know it was idm or anything... I just had bought it in 1998 and I liked it but it didnt make me search for more
I also discovered that back oin 1998 I had bought lp5 but I had changed the cd for another one when I first listened to it... but I remember that for the black minimal case of the cd
well back on topic.
since 2002 when I started all this, I have always considered aphex and autechre to be my favourites, now with time I have known more and more names in this electronica world, but still aphex seems to be in top of my tastes, I think he is a lazy fuck, but what he has done is really top material even though other artists are doing great things
I am now discovering lots of new artists, cos now that I have the main releases of the "big" ones, I am starting to buy cds of new names for me... and I like most of the things I get, and many really surprise me with great music...
but if I compare... I thinkg aphex is still up there my favourite artist
and the question is:
is aphex your favourite artist still? or have you really discovered someone that really is better in your opinion?
was aphex never your favourite?
tell me
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:21 [#01288731]
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i find it strange that I haven't found anyone better than him since i discovered his music years ago.
He is the most consistantly good electronica artist i've came across and the range of music he can do is amazing.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-07-28 12:21 [#01288732]
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A Good Question.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 12:22 [#01288733]
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he has never been my favourite. I do have quite a few AFX releases, but I hardly ever touch them.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-07-28 12:22 [#01288734]
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Of course not.
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nacmat
on 2004-07-28 12:22 [#01288735]
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what aritst made you fins this forum?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-28 12:22 [#01288736]
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Nope...he never was
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-07-28 12:24 [#01288737]
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aphex was my favourite and the first idm kinda music i started listening too but i think he isn't my favourite anymore. I haven't exactly got one favourite artists but he is probably still in top 10.
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nacmat
on 2004-07-28 12:24 [#01288738]
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another question:
have any of you really read my first post from begining to end?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:26 [#01288739]
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if you listen to SAWII and Richard D James album, these 2 albums prove he is one of the best idm artists.
His others aren't too bad either:)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 12:26 [#01288741]
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none, really. I didn't come here to look for info or something.
but the first electronica that appealed to me was Autechre. they're still one of my favourites.
the first thing I heard was "the eye " by Squarepusher and I thought it sounded interesting. then I heard Autechre's "foil" and that I really liked.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-07-28 12:26 [#01288742]
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He was my favorite and also the first electronic artist I got into, but I don't think I could truthfully say that he still is my favorite. I have found so many other artists that I like just as much if not more... I'm not sure who my favorite is, but at most he's only tied for it.
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-07-28 12:28 [#01288744]
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his track 'come to daddy' was the reason I first came here, since then I have discovered more great artists and music, some better, some not as good as AFX.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:28 [#01288745]
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The first time I heard Aphex's ICBYD album it changed how I viewed music and sound. It's had the single biggest impact on my musical tastes. Like you, I've expanded my knowledge of electronic musicians as well as other styles. And I have to say, he's not at the top for me anymore. As good as his albums are, there's too many other extremely talented artists making stuff and improving on the ideas and sounds he spearheaded to a degree. I feel almost the same about Autechre. Their futures are still bright but there are other stars in the sky.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:28 [#01288746]
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its hard to think of anyone as good, autechre come close... boards of canada a little further behind.
Aphex Twin tends to be a lot more varied than other idm artists who always seem to do the same music over and over again. Plaid for example.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-28 12:28 [#01288747]
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I just don't hear it.
I don't hear what's supposed to be so brilliant.
I just hear some tracks, some of which are okay, some of which are good, most of which don't move me.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:30 [#01288749]
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well with SAW II, you probably have to like ambient to begin with, but its one of the finest example of ambient there is, as good as the best Brian Eno.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:32 [#01288753]
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I think guys like Stars of the Lid, Tim Hecker and Oren Ambarchi have surpassed Aphex in the ambient style.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-28 12:32 [#01288754]
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He was my introduction to electronic music, like he was to many, and maybe my favorite in this realm for a year or so, but he was never anywhere near my favorite artist overall. But I did and still do think very highly of him, even though it's not cool to do so anymore. I've heard a few electronic artists I like qutie a bit more than him (Freescha), but NOBODY with a more interesting and varied back catalogue. It was very fun digging into his work, when it was new to me.
He's nothing compared to The Beatles or Harry Nilsson, though.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-07-28 12:34 [#01288757]
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Aphex was what got me into this stuff, but he's no longer my favourite. That honour would go to ae or boC now.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:38 [#01288763]
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thanks, i'll check them out but really, SAW II is one of my favourite albums ever, that album is as close to perfection for me as any other album i've heard in any genre.
which one would you say is the closest in style to SAWII?
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-07-28 12:38 [#01288764]
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It wasn't until I got a computer that I could explore music really. After getting Napster and downloading a few tracks mostly dumb shit, I remembered Aphex Twin's Windowlicker that I had heard around a year previous. A couple of downloads later and I'm browsing around the net looking for info on him so I know what to look for next, and I find this site.
And with regards to whether he is still my favourite, no he isn't my favourite any more, although he once was. Autechre are slowly becoming my favourites...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-07-28 12:38 [#01288765]
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I don't listen to much aphex any more, but i'm still fond of maybe 50% of his work, the other half being stuff i never really liked. I'm moved on to pastures new though for the most part.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:39 [#01288766]
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"He's nothing compared to The Beatles"
is anyone though?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-07-28 12:39 [#01288767]
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can you even compare him to the beatles? why bother?
why not just leave it at both of them are great at what they do/did?... the music is too dissimilar to reasonably compare the two.
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2004-07-28 12:41 [#01288770]
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He never was. I like him, but he never really was a favourite of mine.
Autechre, however, are still the shit.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:41 [#01288771]
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Aphex Twin means a lot to me.. cut to the chase, he is not lazy but seems to dislike releasing music now. Perhaps because of the music industry, perhaps because of the shit remarks he reads on-line building resentment in his camp? Stupid comments are much easier to come by then heartfelt ones on-line and off. He should pour as much of himself into the culture of humanity on a whole as he can rather then hide away, some people desperately need it but as always few will truly appreciate it.
In short it would be nice if he was prolific enough to stay my favourite. The only album I'm anticipating at the moment is not worth mentioning here.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:42 [#01288772]
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That would be Stars of the Lid. Get Avec Laudium and The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid. Very similar to SAW 2 although more developed and engaging in my opinion of course!
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:45 [#01288776]
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Could you explain what's so great about the beatles? I'm truly ignorant of their impact to music.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:45 [#01288777]
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cool, i'll check it out, always on the look out for new music, especially with my 40GB ipod arriving soon :)
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:47 [#01288779]
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I'm jealous. Do you plan on burning all your cds to it? I was thinking about getting one but that task is holding me back
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:49 [#01288783]
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well all my music is in itunes anyway, i always import my cd's to my computer. when i get the ipod i just plug it in and a few minutes it has my entire collection on it :)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:50 [#01288784]
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i guess it depends how big your hard drive is, mine is 160GB so i don't have any trouble with my music on my computer.
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 12:50 [#01288785]
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that's good
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:51 [#01288786]
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a actually ordered 80GB but apple sent me the wrong computer :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-07-28 12:52 [#01288788]
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I don't think i could call him my favourite but i have no idea who i would say is... i think for me it goes little something like this: i fall in love with an artist or i don't... if i do i will always have that love, and it's really hard for me to compare it with love for another artist... it's just always gonna be there... i will always love what i love about aphex... i will always look forward to what he offers next... but as far as what i listen to... i don't know when the last time i listened to aphex was... but it's probably been over a month... probably more...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-07-28 12:55 [#01288790]
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It's been said before and it will be said again, but:
Listen to tomorrow never knows by the beatles, from the album "revolver". They were more experimental artists that had a lot of influence both before and after this song was released, but in 1966 i believe that shit would be described as "pretty darn groundbreaking".
All the backwards loops, proto-dance music etc... blah blah blah. I imagine that they weren't the first to make music with psychedelic-electronic elements *cough*raymond scott*cough* but they certainly took it to the mainstream, and i don't think anyone had combined experimentalism with a pop sensibility as perfectly. Of course i may be hugely ignorant, and i will accept all reproaches graciously :D
imho
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goodbyegonzaguo
from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 12:58 [#01288791]
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Does anyone ever get the feeling that Aphex started to compromise his music circa when Squarepusher hit the scene and started uping the tempo with hyper-edited drillandbass...I always miss the epic tunes/melodies of Aphex's earlier work and feel he's drifted away from that quite a lot into a more technical muscle-flexing scene.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-28 13:00 [#01288794]
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Well duh, when I said the thing about the Beatles and Nilsson, it was kind of tongue in cheek. Obviously, they're from two different universes, my first post even MENTIONS this alternate universe, indirectly. That's just what I do, I've been doing it for years. Not that it isn't true, though!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-07-28 13:01 [#01288795]
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one of my favorites but not my favorite.,
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Mertens
from Motor City (United States) on 2004-07-28 13:02 [#01288797]
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I'm afraid the Beatles music won't have the impact it should if I started getting into them now. Logic tells me that everything innovative and novel they were responsible for has been aped and incorporated into everything these last 20 or more years.
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goodbyegonzaguo
from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 13:05 [#01288800]
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Having said what I said, I got interested in music composition mainly through listening to his stuff (old and new).
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-07-28 13:06 [#01288802]
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even if he wouldn't release any more music, he'd still be my favourite. although, that would make me a very sad man :(
i see alot of people here calling him lazy for not releasing much lately, which doesn't make much sense to me. his music is his greatest passion and ambition, he's always making it like crazy. releasing records is only the business site of it and you might be able to call him lazy in that department, but it isn't question of being lazy or not. he just does what he feels like, and you just gotta respect that. he's not obligated to put out a record for you.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-28 13:06 [#01288803]
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''and i don't think anyone had combined experimentalism with a pop sensibility as perfectly''
And I think that's pretty much it, in a nutshell. There were more experimental artists at the time, but The Beatles had that lethal multi-dimensional attack. They actually knew how to harnass advanced ideas and sounds into something that wasn't alienating.
'''m afraid the Beatles music won't have the impact it should if I started getting into them now''
That depends on your mindset as you go into it. Go into it for strong songwriting instead of aural gimmicks, and you won't be let down. They hold up and then some, the copycats of their innovations don't have their pop sensibilty that they had.
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handoverthecart
on 2004-07-28 13:07 [#01288805]
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aphex is not my favorite anymore. (i like autechre more.)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-07-28 13:10 [#01288807]
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aphex is my favourite always has been and always will be......that is all
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EugeneII
on 2004-07-28 13:19 [#01288810]
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no no..probably the least interesting "idm" musician for me
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-07-28 13:27 [#01288816]
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Ohhh Aphex is my favourite, it's hard to imagine now the impact "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" had, and I still listen to him the most out of any "electronica" artist. If I think of my records as my friends, then the music of Aphex is like one of those unpredictable, dangerous loose canons that you might go out for a drink with, someone that often upsets your sensibilities but you always laugh hardest with (that doesn't make any sense). I agree with goodbyegonzagu that I miss his epic melodies of yesteryear, and I don't think I ever listened to drukqs all the way through in one listening, but I think every track of his bears the mark of GENIUS and there's not many acts I know of that can pull that off.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 13:29 [#01288818]
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haha, what? least interesting? ah, i get it... too popular.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-28 13:30 [#01288819]
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and don't forget to check out the Velvet Underground, probably just as influential and still awesome today.
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