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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-06-27 03:19 [#01257555]
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Thursday the 17th I did shrooms with my friends. Trip went good, and we where all high like kites with the bag of weed I also got my hands on that day.
So like 2 hours after i took the shrooms I got a little nausea. Thinking that I have puked a lot on shrooms, it didn't really bother me, and I headed for the bathroom.
When I came out there I looked the door and sad next to the toilet, but as I sat down, I began to feel something was wrong. I had suddenly lost all strength, and had to fight to get up on my feet again.
The nausea then disappeared, but while looking at myself in the mirror, I started noticing how everything started to fade to black.
I was thinking fast, and unlocked the door and called for a friend of mine. He then came in the door and catched me as i passed out.
the next seconds felt like all thoughts in my head was flying around uncontrollable. Very much like my idea of hell.
I awoke, drenched with sweat, and with my very choked friend next to me. He said that I had gone into cramps, and that my pupils were fixed and dialated [sp?].
Since that Thursday I have taken it quite easy. I have also quit the weed (again...for the 14th time or so).
Every time i try to think about taking drugs, the glimpse of my reflection in the mirror, fading away, makes me very scared.
It felt like death
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-06-27 03:21 [#01257557]
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been away from the board too long my friends...i spell like a monkey on pills
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 03:24 [#01257559]
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yeah i was just going to say that, looks like them druggies do more than just scare you
but, that is hella creepy for sure..
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-06-27 03:25 [#01257560]
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dang
that shit goes away though right?
like if i get sick on drinking for a while i think of being sick everytime i see a bottle, but after a while you're ok again
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-06-27 03:30 [#01257569]
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well i would say yes, but i have taking DXM-pills soo many times now that the sight of the pills gives me nausea....so my guess is that I won't touch shrooms again.
I have done: Schrooms ~ 15-20 times DXM ~ 100-150 times (no kidding) Weed ~ who counts? Speed ~ 10 times over a single week...haven't touched it since
Coke ~ 2 times and it sucks Rufies ~ 5 times Poppers ~ a whole day once Morfin-like pills ~ 10-20 times
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-27 03:31 [#01257571]
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Black tar heroin ~ EVERY DAEEEYYYYYY
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-06-27 03:35 [#01257574]
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i like Ketamine
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 03:58 [#01257588]
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congrats, you are on your way to becoming a vegetable
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-27 04:13 [#01257599]
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If shrooms make you feel bad, then stay away from them for a while. Simple as that. I was shit scared of them after i had my first dodgy trip, but i left it a couple of months, had a smaller dose next time, and now i like 'em again.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2004-06-27 04:21 [#01257608]
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yeah...but it's like, I have a job now (where i'm pretty much allowed to smoke weed in my lunchbreak though) and i'm pretty frustrated over that I actually have lust towards weed. I really want to smoke weed, but not on the basis of being addicted like that.
The addiction is often hidden away in boredom and the fact that almost all my friend are smoking
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 04:25 [#01257611]
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where i'm pretty much allowed to smoke weed in my lunchbreak though
thats a fucking weird job youve got there, i dont think much people are allowed that over here (holland)
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-27 04:28 [#01257612]
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I know the feeling... if i'm bored in the evening i'll be gagging for a smoke or a few beers. If the majority of your friends smoke, and you REAAAALLY like Teh Spliffage, then just take it easier for a while, no smoking until you hallucinate. Calming it down for a bit often helps when the drugs are starting to fuck with your head a bit, but you don't really want to stop.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-06-27 04:32 [#01257615]
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Did you overdose ?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 04:34 [#01257617]
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a thread about drugs isnt a thread about drugs without monoid
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 04:43 [#01257623]
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but a thread with monoid is ultimately doomed
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 04:53 [#01257632]
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When you're getting into drugs of any type i think you always don't really want to quit, but it always feels really good to go clean for a month or something.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-06-27 05:02 [#01257641]
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when things arre going well therre is no rreason to quit drrugs.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 05:37 [#01257647]
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would that mean drugs = doom?
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 07:08 [#01257682]
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i was planning to do some mushrooms in the summer with a few friends. but hearing this kind of thing really puts me off. perhaps we'll just stick with smoking.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-06-27 07:36 [#01257696]
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don't look into mirrors while trippin on shrooms or lsd, your mind will be reflected in the mirror too
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telica
from london/york on 2004-06-27 07:59 [#01257709]
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nah, don't let it put you off. just make sure you don't take too many. the same thing happened to a friend of mine when we were shrooming a few months back. it's grim, but it happened because he took far too many. just be sensible and take some and see what the effect is - if you're not feeling it then take some more. be sensible, yo :)
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 08:43 [#01257722]
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I've done mushrooms more times than I can remember - But - The last time, I was at a friends house, just smoking weed before going into town, hate a few mushrooms I had at the time - Just a few every couple of minutes for some reason - Not really looking to get anything more than a subtle edge to add to the night... Sometimes when I go out on a little acid or a few mushrooms I can be really funny...
Anyway, I kind of got into a dilema of "am i too warped to be going into town now?" when the time came to head off.... This sent my head into a spiral - I had only taken 1/10th what I had taken in the past, so wasn't expecting much.
But I ended up driving round half panicing and sketched out, not knowing what to do.. Ended up going home and hiding in bed - every minute felt like an eternity, i was thinking at 300mph... Nasty nasty experience...
Just state of mind as far as I could tell - Had a similar thing on a very small amount of acid when a friend kept me waiting for 5 minutes for a lift... Just the littlest thing can get you into a negative thought spiral when you're vulneraable like that.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 08:47 [#01257723]
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The first time I did mushrooms me and a few friends had been picking enough for 5 of us all day - 3 of them bottled it anyway, so we ended up eating about 200 psilocybins each - Was so warped you couldn't even have a bad thought as far as I could tell - you couldn't hold on to a single thought for more than a second anyway... just laughed so hard it hurt for about 5 hours - really felt like i was utterly insane - everything looked like pure 60's psychedelic album covers - loved it though - felt great afterwards - like a new man...
I think leaving psychedelics on a bad note may be a mistake...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-06-27 10:03 [#01257750]
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Thats pretty normal for taking a big dose of shrooms, how many grams did you have?
Anyways, the first hour or two always feels like you're dying. Thats just your body working out the mushroom poision. After that its all uphill for about 6 hours.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 10:23 [#01257759]
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yeah we probably will still do it, we're usually hyper-sensible whenever we're doing something none of us have done before, the result of over-education probably.
the most likely scenario is that we'll be too cautious to actually have enough and end up sitting around waiting to trip.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-06-27 10:53 [#01257771]
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man, i've had so many bad instances on shrooms now.
it's just a fact that i think too much when im on them ... mind races, and turns into a terrible nightmare.
:'(
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 11:13 [#01257784]
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where do you pick your shrooms?
got any tips?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-06-27 11:23 [#01257790]
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i've never picked.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 11:25 [#01257794]
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thats good, because i wasnt talking to you.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 11:26 [#01257795]
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that was incredibly childish. ignore it please, bad temper
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-27 11:33 [#01257803]
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I thought fresh shrooms could be bought at smartshops over in the netherlands? Picking always seemed like too much effort.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 11:34 [#01257804]
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We've been looking around various forests, fields, etc.. before, with little success.
There was (a few years ago) a very famous field in Amersham, near High Wycombe/Aylesbury area - Where horses grazed - Where there were literally hundreds of thousands of the things.
But if you look around you find them almost everywhere around late August - Just rarely in large enough numbers to make it worthwhile.
It was a nice way to have a first trip, picking your own - You'd spend all afternoon with a few friends in the countryside, picking away - Then as it got to evening and we were driving back, we were all in a pretty good, pretty fresh feeling mood - Perfect state of mind to do psychedelics in I suppose.
Some of my best acid and mushroom experiences have involved large quantities of alcohol and weed though - We all got in a habit of going out drinking all night - Then turning up at a friends house about 1am and drinking pot after pot of mushroom tea, and smoking weed.
I couldn't imagine having a bad experience on mushrooms when you're kind of drunk and in a good mood - It cussions the effects a lot, but it sort of allows you to trip really hard without having to worry about your state of mind so much.
Back then we had a friend who used to pick them in Wales - And she'd come back with dustbin bags full - Like a whole corner of an upstairs room was just giant 5ft bags of mushrooms... They'd still go after a few months though.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 11:35 [#01257807]
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You can buy those Hawaian mushrooms and Philosophers Stones and things at most markets in this country it seems - Although I've never tried them - I don't think they're supposed to be quite in the same league as psilocybins, but I've had friends tell me they are totally crazy trips anyway.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-27 11:38 [#01257810]
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its fun, like jswift says, (and less expensive but thats not really an issue)
i just realized that im no expert and might pick toxic ones too
better read up first
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-27 11:40 [#01257812]
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Yeah that's where i get mine... as far as i know they ARE psilocybe mushrooms (cubensis, copelandia, tampanensis etc). I've revised my opinion on philosopher's stone truffles after hearing a few bad stories and having a nasty trip of my own... i've grown to really like them. Nice "controllable" trip, very happy and "thinky".
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-27 11:42 [#01257816]
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Yeah that's the one thing that really puts me off from picking my own... i'd be too paranoid about picking the wrong kind. If you ever get into doing it, i'd take one of those mushroom identification guides, just to be sure.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 12:20 [#01257841]
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i've never had worse trips than those that involve mixing mushrooms and weed. what's frightening about a bad trip is that you come away knowing what it's like to be insane and with realisations that insanity isn't too far from reality. that feeling of total mental helplessness stays with you for the rest of your life. alway's lingering, just below the surface, in the back of your mind. i fear that once you've been to place like that it's easy to go back because you know how to recreate it. for a particular type of person who may be feeling completely depressed and hopeless insanity can suddenly become a viable alternative to suicide.
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telica
from london/york on 2004-06-27 12:25 [#01257844]
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cup of earl grey, dear?
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 12:32 [#01257848]
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Tell me about it! I do get occassional patches of that - I can't tell whether it's acid flashbacks or not - It actually, wierdly enough, seems to be a symptom of my hayfever...
I get all my hayfever symptoms, like dizziness, sinus symptoms, etc... then i'll start questioning real deep thought patterns and things about the nature of reality - driving myself mad!
Feels just like one of those too hectic acid trips.
You can definetly find a lot of meaning and inner peace in that kind of knowledge - But sometimes it can really screw you up too - I often prefer blissful ignorance! Which is why I used to like MDMA so much after taking so much LSD.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 12:34 [#01257849]
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it's worth mentioning that i've never had a bad trip on shrooms or acid, just the that dread combination of shroom and herb. it's quite tough to acurately describe the feeling of a bad trip, but for me the battle that was going on in my head seemed like something like this: the shrooms were trying to get me to think of everything i could possibly think of at once. the weed was only allowing me to focus on one thought at a time. add the two together and you can't believe the confusion. it's pure mental chaos. thoughts are just speeding by you and crashing together hundreds at a time. you can't make a bloody lick of sense out of any of them. as a result they all seem evil, very, very evil. no matter how innocent. i recalled laying on my bunk bed as a child reading, a fairly harmless rememberance, yet something about it was incredibly sinister.
it seemed in my best interest that i quit mixing those two drugs after that. i'm not quite sure why, but it seemed like a good idea at the time ;-)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 12:53 [#01257858]
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the most terrifying experiences of my life were times i mixed LSD and weed.
on one occasion, i was hallucinating so intensly, that i couldn't tell whether my eyes were open or shut. i layed in an upstairs bedroom but in my head i would get up, walk downstairs, and fall into the basement, just to find myself still laying in the upstairs bedroom. I'd get up again and walk downstairs and fall into the basement again and again and again. i was stuck in this loop for about 2 or 3 hours. and i don't think i ever actually left the upstairs bedroom.
i couldn't understand what anyone was saying to me, i couldn't tell if i was talking or just thinking, and i didn't know where i was in the house.
but i also had some of the most fun experiences of my life on LSD even mixed with a little weed.
but i think the key is moderation. the bad trips always involved taking TOO MUCH acid TOO FAST and smoking TOO MUCH weed at the same time.
the good trips usually involved taking just a bit, letting myself ease into it and when i felt good, i'd take a bit more. always making sure i was in control.
but once i had the bad trip, it pretty much ruined every trip i had after it.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2004-06-27 12:54 [#01257860]
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actually,
Herbwest was there on the night of the worst trip of my life.
if i remember correctly.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-27 13:38 [#01257881]
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Funnily enough, my best ever acid trip was when I was smoking weed.
We had been to London to pick up a load of trips - Got back about midnight and me and a few friends just stayed up - Took one each and smoked some skunk bongs.
Totally liquid, surreal and enlightening - Felt myself melt into the floor and surroundings; then into the town (where I'd grown up); then into my past, etc... was like a became one with everything - Remember that really well... Felt quite charged too - Sometimes skunk and acid give me a real energy.
Definetly a lot of early childhood memories that time - Feelings and insights you completely loose touch with,,
Then later I started wondering "where am I?", as in where was "I", not just my body, limbs and that, but my actual self...
Then I realised I was floating a few feet behind my body, connected at the head.
Loved every minute of it though - Just came out of it feeling really alive and positive - That was back in the days when every drugs experience seemed to go really well.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2004-06-27 13:51 [#01257891]
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I did shrooms in bali and it was fantastic. They have so many of those freaky looking statues, those really googly eyed ones. mm i remember twisted bodies, which were actually tree trunks and dragons which were big plants swaying in the wind. ahh i love shrooms. Ill never do them intensly though. Drugs are bad remember.
And also my eyes always get huge, like i have no colour in my eye because my pupils so big. When im on shrooms everything goes fisheye lense style. its the best.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-06-27 15:31 [#01257973]
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you took rufies?
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dequalsrxt
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-27 15:40 [#01257987]
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in boulder, colorado, where everyone and their mother seems to be carrying shrooms in their pockets, we used to shroom and go hiking. ever since then, i've seen shrooms as an "outdoors" drug...i suppose they'd be fun at a big party too. but definitely i don't like doing them alone and i always have the urge to go find a meadow or a mountain somewhere to chill at.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-27 21:59 [#01258267]
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Yup.
The only way to do shrooms is to go camping somewhere remote with a few carefully selected friends and pick them yourselves, then neck them whilst you get a big-ass fire going.
I wouldn't even bring along any pre-recorded music - bring musical instruments instead, because the experience is a lot more fulfilling that way.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2004-06-27 23:16 [#01258277]
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had some mush last night
very fun, im liking mushrooms more then weed now, just because of the overall enjoyability and emotional power of it all.
started going on a bad tangent last weekend shrooming - but things got better as the night continued.
environment is really what makes the trips good, and the people you are with.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-27 23:35 [#01258288]
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Yeah there was a thread describing something similar on another board.... i replied saying that these things happen and rattled off a few instances of my mates blacking out in cars, on the pavement, in chairs... and I realised that this kinda shit has happened to my mates and myself a fucking LOT.
LAst time a friend of mine blacked out in another's bathroom and hit his head on the shower screen door, cracking it. Quite surprised he didn't seriously cut his head up, actually.
I've seen my best mate go into spasms in his car, I was losing it and slapping him going "Fucking snap out of it!" and he was going "I-I-I c-c-c-a-a-a-n't-t-t-t" but he did after a bit.
Same dude freaked me out by passing out ina chair continuously between fits of hysteria and mumbling about having trouble holding onto sanity.
I've never seen anyone suffer ayn PERMANENT damage from these kinda things though - you usually end up fine after a good sleep, just make sure you're not driving when it happens
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-27 23:39 [#01258289]
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-crazone "don't look into mirrors while trippin on shrooms or lsd, your mind will be reflected in the mirror too"
Yeah man that shit is a BAD idea. I've seen myself turn into an old man and stuff. Doesn't sound TOO freaky but at the time... you stare into your eyes...and something happens, hard to explain but it's like... Almost like you don't know if that's really you in the mirror or another person. It's kinda intense.
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