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offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:04 [#01254894]
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i was FUCKING DISGUSTED and ashamed to be english tonight.
i felt ill. i watched the game (england vs portugal) and all
the way through were nationalistic (moreso anti-german)
chants etc. i cannot believe (although i wasn't surprised)
at the anti-"euorpean" chants i heard from my compardres.
absolutely disgraceful. i'm almost pleased we lost. SHAME on
england supportors, i'm extremely embarrased to be english.
i don't know what else to say.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:09 [#01254908]
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get over it, every country is racist, i live in australia,
and these cunts are way worse towards other nationalities


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:10 [#01254912]
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NO. NOBODY should have top put up with racism. it is
disgusting and vile and we should seek to eradicate it on
absoulte terms.


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-24 17:11 [#01254913]
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wouldn't it be better if we were offended by it and tried to
do something about it?

(remind me never to post here after an english loss again...
:P)


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:12 [#01254917]
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errr.. yeah... that goes without saying... however... take a
look around, its like that all over the world... except in
those nice places... where its sunny and they all chill
out... i hate those twats.


 

offline dog_belch from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-24 17:13 [#01254919]
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I think there's a difference between racisim and the
natural, mickey taking competition that exists between
different countries. The casual, charmless, ignorant,
fuckwadded racisim and general prattishness of the average
cunt is something I don't miss of dear old Blighty.


 

offline sfj from Durham (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:14 [#01254920]
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I couldn't hear the racist chants in the bar.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:15 [#01254923]
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agree! good call.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:17 [#01254924]
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its unpleasant and i/we shouldnt have to have to deal with
it. its ignorance and gang mentality to the extreme. its
appaling and should be dealt with on the level its dished
out with. and NO_ONE should put up with it. que aborigines
backlash - as an aussie you know what im talking about more
than most.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2004-06-24 17:18 [#01254925]
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I couldn't hear the racist chants, either, but I know that
shit happens and is vile.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:18 [#01254926]
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im not an aussie, just a brit living here... tho as an
observer i do know what you mean.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-24 17:19 [#01254927]
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Don't sweat it. I remember in Montreal for a Habs/Bruins
game, some fans booing the American national anthem. And of
course the American population on Hockeysfuture.com and
fanhome were up in arms, Canada is racist, Canucks are
ignorant, etc... it was like a dozen fucking guys in a crowd
of 22,000. Rowdy, drunk, passionate fans will do stupid
things, fact of life. 99% of the time, it means nothing.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 17:19 [#01254928]
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Are you talking about racist or xenophobic chants?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:26 [#01254943]
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yes i am. and i do know the difference between natinalism
and racism, so please don't insult me. what i heard all the
way through the match was fucking discraceful and impssible
to defend.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:28 [#01254945]
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sorry lee that wasnt directed at you spespifically


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 17:33 [#01254953]
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Doesn't bother me...you can stick up for kraut niggers all
you want you white pommie bastard. :)


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:41 [#01254964]
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Tribal instinct is natural, it will always happen sure as
wanting sex. That will make no victim feel any better
however.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:44 [#01254970]
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NO thats a disgraceful excuse. sorry but i find what you
just said incredibly offensive.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:45 [#01254976]
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i didn't hear any racist chants either :-/

the racists are always the hardest people to deal with, as
their the most ignorant.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 17:47 [#01254983]
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Pete was watching a Klan rally by accident.


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-06-24 17:50 [#01254990]
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ha!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 17:51 [#01254994]
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The England team before extra time


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offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:55 [#01255000]
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That's a good sign, I think way too much and that's bad for
you.

People take group formations and prepare defences among
themselves. That's not just in football it's everywhere in
nature. I do it with my mates, I'll reject someone then a
quip from a friend to get my back at the right moment seals
that fact among us, others do it to me and it hurts but
that's the way it is. My judgement is based on how
honourable, thoughtful or loving someone is and if they are
worth my time or good for my social group, others may judge
by stupid little things like colour or appearance. It
depends on intelligence, conditioning, the situation and so
on.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:04 [#01255015]
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the problem isnt that i know that or that i i can ignore
that. the problem is that it exists.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:07 [#01255019]
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It's the human form of pissing to show territorial
dominance. Although English fans seem to do that as well.

We are still a long way behind the Turkish though. In fact
English fans in racism terms are a lot better than a lot of
European countries.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-06-24 18:09 [#01255021]
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i thought you were gonna say something about how white guys
are always quarterbacks, but then i remembered im american
and youre not....


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:09 [#01255022]
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football... and racism...
...
*leaves topic*


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:10 [#01255025]
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now you're just being racist against the turks!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:11 [#01255029]
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i apologise for being obvious but experiencing gang
mentality first hand in such a closed arena am i any better
for feeling violent towards the agressors?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:12 [#01255031]
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Racism has no meaning for me.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:13 [#01255034]
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No, you are just as evil. Hang your head in shame.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:16 [#01255039]
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He appears to be hanging his head in insane excitement.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:16 [#01255040]
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no i'm not. absolutely not.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:19 [#01255043]
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I quote: "i'm extremely embarrased to be english."

The same view you would look down on if uttered by someone
not of the same nationality as yourself.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:20 [#01255047]
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I agree and I'm constantly in despair at the state of this
world. That's why I don't like to think too much about such
dark things, I teach all those I can around me and play lots
of Jet Set Willy or misc other distraction until such a time
I vote. All I can do.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:24 [#01255053]
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again no. i appreciate devils advocate but this time its
pretty weak. and i know you agree with me.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:25 [#01255055]
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Then just kiss me and we will call it a night.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:35 [#01255073]
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i glad you havent gone into that british nationalism
bullshit, if you were down the pub tonight you know exacly
what i'm talking about. my only hope is you weren't part of
it. i'm still thinknig about it and it still makes me feel
sick.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:38 [#01255076]
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I was down the pub and it does do my head in. The need for
false union just demonstrates how pathetic we have become.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:41 [#01255081]
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If I saw ecnadniarb down at the pub, I'd beat his ass twice
and then beat his ass again, making that three times total.
I'd beat his ass so hard, it would be like a really hard
substance. Like, um, metal. That hard. Beat... bea... Oh, I
meant bone.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-24 18:44 [#01255084]
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a) I doubt you ever leave your house.
b) You mention my ass three times so you must love me in a
gay way.
c) The only thing you have ever beat is yourself while
thinking in a gay way about my thrice mentioned ass.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-24 18:46 [#01255087]
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6 buttcheeks that makes


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:49 [#01255094]
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Yes... these are all facts. Especially the second one, the
third one and the first one.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2004-06-24 18:51 [#01255096]
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they are though 8 (


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-24 19:04 [#01255115]
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dont take hooligans so seriously


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 19:09 [#01255123]
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... yes... ?? pff, can you read? Sheesh.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-24 19:17 [#01255134]
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Man, i agree that racism is horrible and it shouldn't really
happen but some people get WAAAYY to bent out of shape over
it.

One day I'm going ot have my own politically correct day and
if anywone says "male" "white" or "australian" around me I'm
going to totally flip my lid and yell racist etc etc
Hehehe, yes racism is wrong but I do think some people get a
little too thin skinned about it


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-06-24 19:35 [#01255159]
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They have every right to. There is no need for it, any time,
any place, with anyone.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 19:38 [#01255165]
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What if evil zombies were a race? And I might add that they
are. I for one am racist against evil zombies and am sick of
people casting my racism in an inhumane uncivilized immoral
light.


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-24 20:31 [#01255222]
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I appreciate your view, man, and I mostly agree, but at the
same time, I do believe that some people take the "offended
by racism" thing a little far. I just don't want this to
turn into an over-politically-correct world where you can't
use like the word "blac" to describe the colour of a car
etc.

I realise this is kinda an unpopular opinion and I'm not
actually accusing anyone of being paranoid or anything, it's
just my mild viewpoint. I'm sure you can understand what I
mean whether or not you agree :)


 


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