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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:04 [#01254894]
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i was FUCKING DISGUSTED and ashamed to be english tonight. i felt ill. i watched the game (england vs portugal) and all the way through were nationalistic (moreso anti-german) chants etc. i cannot believe (although i wasn't surprised) at the anti-"euorpean" chants i heard from my compardres. absolutely disgraceful. i'm almost pleased we lost. SHAME on england supportors, i'm extremely embarrased to be english. i don't know what else to say.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:09 [#01254908]
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get over it, every country is racist, i live in australia, and these cunts are way worse towards other nationalities
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:10 [#01254912]
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NO. NOBODY should have top put up with racism. it is disgusting and vile and we should seek to eradicate it on absoulte terms.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-24 17:11 [#01254913]
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wouldn't it be better if we were offended by it and tried to do something about it?
(remind me never to post here after an english loss again... :P)
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:12 [#01254917]
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errr.. yeah... that goes without saying... however... take a look around, its like that all over the world... except in those nice places... where its sunny and they all chill out... i hate those twats.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2004-06-24 17:13 [#01254919]
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I think there's a difference between racisim and the natural, mickey taking competition that exists between different countries. The casual, charmless, ignorant, fuckwadded racisim and general prattishness of the average cunt is something I don't miss of dear old Blighty.
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sfj
from Durham (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:14 [#01254920]
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I couldn't hear the racist chants in the bar.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:15 [#01254923]
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agree! good call.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:17 [#01254924]
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its unpleasant and i/we shouldnt have to have to deal with it. its ignorance and gang mentality to the extreme. its appaling and should be dealt with on the level its dished out with. and NO_ONE should put up with it. que aborigines backlash - as an aussie you know what im talking about more than most.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2004-06-24 17:18 [#01254925]
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I couldn't hear the racist chants, either, but I know that shit happens and is vile.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2004-06-24 17:18 [#01254926]
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im not an aussie, just a brit living here... tho as an observer i do know what you mean.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-06-24 17:19 [#01254927]
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Don't sweat it. I remember in Montreal for a Habs/Bruins game, some fans booing the American national anthem. And of course the American population on Hockeysfuture.com and fanhome were up in arms, Canada is racist, Canucks are ignorant, etc... it was like a dozen fucking guys in a crowd of 22,000. Rowdy, drunk, passionate fans will do stupid things, fact of life. 99% of the time, it means nothing.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 17:19 [#01254928]
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Are you talking about racist or xenophobic chants?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:26 [#01254943]
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yes i am. and i do know the difference between natinalism and racism, so please don't insult me. what i heard all the way through the match was fucking discraceful and impssible to defend.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:28 [#01254945]
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sorry lee that wasnt directed at you spespifically
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 17:33 [#01254953]
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Doesn't bother me...you can stick up for kraut niggers all you want you white pommie bastard. :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:41 [#01254964]
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Tribal instinct is natural, it will always happen sure as wanting sex. That will make no victim feel any better however.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 17:44 [#01254970]
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NO thats a disgraceful excuse. sorry but i find what you just said incredibly offensive.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:45 [#01254976]
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i didn't hear any racist chants either :-/
the racists are always the hardest people to deal with, as their the most ignorant.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 17:47 [#01254983]
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Pete was watching a Klan rally by accident.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2004-06-24 17:50 [#01254990]
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ha!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 17:51 [#01254994]
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The England team before extra time
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 17:55 [#01255000]
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That's a good sign, I think way too much and that's bad for you.
People take group formations and prepare defences among themselves. That's not just in football it's everywhere in nature. I do it with my mates, I'll reject someone then a quip from a friend to get my back at the right moment seals that fact among us, others do it to me and it hurts but that's the way it is. My judgement is based on how honourable, thoughtful or loving someone is and if they are worth my time or good for my social group, others may judge by stupid little things like colour or appearance. It depends on intelligence, conditioning, the situation and so on.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:04 [#01255015]
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the problem isnt that i know that or that i i can ignore that. the problem is that it exists.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:07 [#01255019]
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It's the human form of pissing to show territorial dominance. Although English fans seem to do that as well.
We are still a long way behind the Turkish though. In fact English fans in racism terms are a lot better than a lot of European countries.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2004-06-24 18:09 [#01255021]
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i thought you were gonna say something about how white guys are always quarterbacks, but then i remembered im american and youre not....
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:09 [#01255022]
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football... and racism... ... *leaves topic*
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:10 [#01255025]
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now you're just being racist against the turks!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:11 [#01255029]
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i apologise for being obvious but experiencing gang mentality first hand in such a closed arena am i any better for feeling violent towards the agressors?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:12 [#01255031]
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Racism has no meaning for me.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:13 [#01255034]
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No, you are just as evil. Hang your head in shame.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:16 [#01255039]
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He appears to be hanging his head in insane excitement.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:16 [#01255040]
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no i'm not. absolutely not.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:19 [#01255043]
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I quote: "i'm extremely embarrased to be english."
The same view you would look down on if uttered by someone not of the same nationality as yourself.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:20 [#01255047]
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I agree and I'm constantly in despair at the state of this world. That's why I don't like to think too much about such dark things, I teach all those I can around me and play lots of Jet Set Willy or misc other distraction until such a time I vote. All I can do.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:24 [#01255053]
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again no. i appreciate devils advocate but this time its pretty weak. and i know you agree with me.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:25 [#01255055]
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Then just kiss me and we will call it a night.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-24 18:35 [#01255073]
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i glad you havent gone into that british nationalism bullshit, if you were down the pub tonight you know exacly what i'm talking about. my only hope is you weren't part of it. i'm still thinknig about it and it still makes me feel sick.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:38 [#01255076]
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I was down the pub and it does do my head in. The need for false union just demonstrates how pathetic we have become.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:41 [#01255081]
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If I saw ecnadniarb down at the pub, I'd beat his ass twice and then beat his ass again, making that three times total. I'd beat his ass so hard, it would be like a really hard substance. Like, um, metal. That hard. Beat... bea... Oh, I meant bone.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-24 18:44 [#01255084]
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a) I doubt you ever leave your house. b) You mention my ass three times so you must love me in a gay way.
c) The only thing you have ever beat is yourself while thinking in a gay way about my thrice mentioned ass.
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big
from lsg on 2004-06-24 18:46 [#01255087]
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6 buttcheeks that makes
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 18:49 [#01255094]
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Yes... these are all facts. Especially the second one, the third one and the first one.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2004-06-24 18:51 [#01255096]
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they are though 8 (
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nacmat
on 2004-06-24 19:04 [#01255115]
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dont take hooligans so seriously
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 19:09 [#01255123]
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... yes... ?? pff, can you read? Sheesh.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-24 19:17 [#01255134]
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Man, i agree that racism is horrible and it shouldn't really happen but some people get WAAAYY to bent out of shape over it.
One day I'm going ot have my own politically correct day and if anywone says "male" "white" or "australian" around me I'm going to totally flip my lid and yell racist etc etc
Hehehe, yes racism is wrong but I do think some people get a little too thin skinned about it
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-06-24 19:35 [#01255159]
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They have every right to. There is no need for it, any time, any place, with anyone.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-24 19:38 [#01255165]
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What if evil zombies were a race? And I might add that they are. I for one am racist against evil zombies and am sick of people casting my racism in an inhumane uncivilized immoral light.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-24 20:31 [#01255222]
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I appreciate your view, man, and I mostly agree, but at the same time, I do believe that some people take the "offended by racism" thing a little far. I just don't want this to turn into an over-politically-correct world where you can't use like the word "blac" to describe the colour of a car etc.
I realise this is kinda an unpopular opinion and I'm not actually accusing anyone of being paranoid or anything, it's just my mild viewpoint. I'm sure you can understand what I mean whether or not you agree :)
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