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offline big from lsg on 2004-06-14 17:11 [#01240240]
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is what im using in fruityloops

do i have to link every channel to the plugin again or can i
link to one plugin, that would make sense since i have all
these instruments in one tab

because with three channels the sound becomes too fucked,
even with my relatively new soundcard


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-14 17:13 [#01240242]
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Link to the one plugin and you just send the midi
information to different channels. I dunno if you can do
that in FL but it's how you do it in Cubase etc.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-14 17:13 [#01240244]
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Yeah that's one of the big problems in FL - one channel =
one plugin. The routing is not terribly flexible.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-14 17:34 [#01240275]
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dont know, the mixing panel has a send 1 2 3 4
but i dont know wether you can send that to edirol


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-14 17:36 [#01240279]
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or how

anyhow: desbo/horse told me to up my buffer length, that
worked, will see up to how many channel

so my submission to xltvibes 13 may be pretty minimalistic


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-17 15:17 [#01245016]
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how about these settings do i have to load all these
instruments everytime

what if my cpu is stressed out with 5 instruments, do i have
to record tracks? how do i do that?


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-17 16:20 [#01245113]
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why do i have to set my floops volumes insanely loud to get
normal volume in the mp3, while using edirol


 

offline corticalstim from Canada on 2004-06-17 17:01 [#01245162]
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for the problem you are having with doing multiple channels
of the same plugin, i would suggest doing whatever you need
to do for a single channel - render it to a wav - do the
same for the next portion of the song using the plugin - and
then just throw in the wavs of the samples/patterns/whatever
- then sequence those as you want - it will save a ton of
cpu if you arent going to be doing a whole lot of different
channels of the same plugin


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-17 17:02 [#01245163]
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Why are you using that edirol bullshit anyway? Do you really
want to sound like mister general midi? Get some decent free
plugins like Synth1 and Polyiblit. Polyiblit has no builtin
effects so it sounds a little dry but a touch of chorus and
echo makes it scream like a bastard.

BTW, Floops rolls back the volume of any plugin in it. Go to
a channel's settings "misc" tab and boost that volume
control to 109% or thereabouts. (there may also be a
separate volume setting in the Edirol thing, I dunno)

This, incidentally, is why people wrongly believe that
Floops has lower sound quality - at a lower volume, we
perceive less bass and treble - this is called the
equal loudness principle.

Most people make up for the lower volume by compressing the
shit out of their Floops channels, which sounds bad. Then
they blame it on Floops when all they had to do was boost
the channel's misc volume! I really think Imageline should
post that information prominently in the help or in an FAQ
because the "FL's quality sucks" myth is annoying.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-17 17:04 [#01245164]
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I should add, though, that all the samples that come with FL
are at 0db so you don't necessarily want to boost their
volume or they'll clip.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-17 17:16 [#01245176]
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all these volumes make me go insane
how do i add 9 % exactly?

also mp3: they dont sound to good with me, and lack treble,
how's that

cheerio

i thought edirol sounded awesome


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-17 17:22 [#01245181]
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You know the channel settings palette that pops up when you
click on a channel? You know how there are little boxes that
say plugin, misc, func? Click on "misc". in the levels
adjustment section there's a volume control. When you turn
it, the volume percent appears in the notification area on
the upper right, just under file, edit, channels etc. Turn
it so it says 109%. Hold down the ctrl key if it turns too
fast.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-17 17:23 [#01245185]
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Oh yea, about mp3 - export your song as a wav file and use
Lame to encode it to mp3.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-17 17:46 [#01245238]
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okay, will do-ies


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 10:31 [#01245992]
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great!
especially that lame thingy. i think the wav from fruity
isnt perfect though, but i have to try the really high
quality still
i put the channel volume to 130 precent, it's just a mixing
thingy, i put the volume high too and the master not too
much.
yeah, this is submitteble :)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 10:37 [#01246000]
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Remember to export with "linear" interpolation if you're
using non-FL generators like the Edirol thingumy. That way
your exported wav will sound the same as your live mix.

Any interpolation higher than linear will change the sound
of your mix and it only improves the sound of the FL sampler
channels, and then only if you're messing with the pitch and
speed.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 11:57 [#01246149]
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oh, tnx mr fruity encyclopedia


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:04 [#01246865]
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listening now the mp3 sounds better because of this then the
wav
i dont know what to submit
it's so beautiful
tnx edirol
this rules, you'll change your opinion on edirol fleety


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 21:06 [#01246866]
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Yeah - I'll give it a whirl, though maybe in cubase so I can
route multiple midi channels to one instance of the plugin.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:10 [#01246868]
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:D
yeah, cubase i will do too
i queued all the instrument to the 0.01 second, lots of
work
i lost a setting of the violins so i cant rip to wave again

please let me share for a second:
hold on a sec, uploading now


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:13 [#01246869]
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for fleetmouse only


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 21:19 [#01246872]
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Ah, you know, I thought you were talking about the old
virtual sound canvas thing. Never tried the orchestral
plugin. Downloading a demo now.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:21 [#01246876]
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i share the full thing


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 21:28 [#01246879]
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When I say demo I think you knmow what I mean. :-)

Great sounding mix on that track. Needs more variation
though - try modulating to Db or something - and maybe add
some timpani.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:29 [#01246882]
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db?
what were timpana again?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 21:30 [#01246883]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:31 [#01246884]
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all the variation made it less good
i think this is by far my best mixing as of yet, yes, tnx


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:33 [#01246886]
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ah, yes
mm, i dont know, percussion is lame in classical, should
try as little as possible
what should i do with it you think?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2004-06-18 21:41 [#01246889]
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Yeah, percussion in classical is like a powerful spice - you
just need a second of bum pum bum pum maybe twice in the
piece, and the second time it comes around the listener will
have been anticipating it, but no more or it's lame.


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-18 21:43 [#01246892]
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ah,
first: the pizzicato, plucking, bass is really percussionist
i found out when removing that
second: my cpu wont stand anymore channels,
i tried other stuff adding too, but it just doesnt get
better


 

offline ziggomatic from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-06-18 23:07 [#01246942]
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like the one used for maphive6.1 !! :) :)


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-29 17:15 [#01260436]
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should i set plugins high quality for rendering??


 

offline big from lsg on 2004-06-30 06:01 [#01260954]
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bump: anyone?
FLstudio: set high quality for plugins? the help explains it
uses a high quality setting of the plugin so prolly i could
just as well set the plugin on high quality and if it doesnt
have such a feature it's useless to switch it on in floops.
but since this plugin doesnt have this feature im not sure.


 


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