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offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-13 22:18 [#01238877]
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the first thought that came to my mind on first listening
of new pan sonic album "kesto" was :
"man, these people are definitely not from planet earth,
compared to this, autechres music sounds earthly!"

what do you think?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-13 22:19 [#01238878]
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i agree...what's so special about autechre anyway?


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-06-13 22:54 [#01238902]
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Apples and Oranges.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-06-13 23:10 [#01238916]
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Is it good? I have nearly finished downloading all four
discs.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-06-13 23:19 [#01238919]
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If you're into minimal, sparse dark ambient...definitely.

If you're into crunchy, industrial-strength
techno...absolutely.

If you're into a combination of both...THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR
LIFE!

Defintely quality among the quantity...


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-06-13 23:22 [#01238920]
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i want kesto so much. vainio and väisänen also make great
solo music btw.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-14 00:25 [#01238949]
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Pan sonic rulez.

I have two Mika Vainio solo albums, can't say that i
like them much..


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2004-06-14 00:47 [#01238960]
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i have mostly listened to the solo stuff of ilpo väisänen.
but vainios stuff didn't sound too bad.


 

offline Matvey from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-06-14 01:53 [#01238988]
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I have Mika Vainios "Tulkinta" and "Kajo". I don't like
"Kajo".


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-15 04:29 [#01240766]
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tulkinta is a great album
donno about the others though
and ilpos asuma on mego sounded too unaccessible to me
maybe didnt give it enough chance..


 

offline uzim on 2004-06-24 07:16 [#01254125]
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i don't think it sounds more out-of-this-world than
Autechre, but it definitely sounds great.

i don't know why, their music makes me think of... raw
materials: stone, metal, plants (ok, plants are not a
material), paper, water...


 

offline gack from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-06-24 08:12 [#01254246]
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is being "out-of-this-world" - whatever that means - a sign
of quality?


 

offline uzim on 2004-06-24 08:18 [#01254253]
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well, it depends on your taste, and on the specific kind of
out-of-this-worldness involved...

it's like asking "is being puple a sign of quality?", i
guess. : )

personally i like out-of-this-worldness (or just weirdness)
as long as it can still match human emotions.


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-24 08:43 [#01254286]
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apples and oranges = fruit


 

offline hobbes from age on 2004-06-24 08:44 [#01254288]
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match human emotions you say uzim....
interesting but relative dont you think?


 

offline Paco from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2004-06-24 08:46 [#01254293]
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It's great understanding the titles too :)


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2004-06-24 09:14 [#01254313]
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there's too much bad synths on autechres albums

pan sonic are dry, i like that


 

offline tlink from sofla (United States) on 2004-06-24 17:47 [#01254981]
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helps if you're finn ;)

tala finska, du jävla


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-26 06:14 [#01256805]
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if its precisely arranged and crafted to create actual
music, with emotions dedicated human brains can feel...then
yea...
and panasonic is in imo the most emotional mechanic music


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-30 09:59 [#01261102]
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Heh, no. This is really standard sounding compared to
Autechre. It's still pretty good though.


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-30 10:08 [#01261108]
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I second mappatazee's opinion. And I can say I really like
aaltopiiri and the stuff I've got from kesto quite a lot.


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-30 12:38 [#01261262]
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guys
give them a more concetrated listen
why do u think its standard sounding compared to ae
i mean, they dont have random beats...but they have a
frequency madness ive never seen in autechres work


 

offline Doomed Puppy from on and off and on and off and on 2004-06-30 13:20 [#01261297]
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Autechre don't have random beats. Autechre's music is full
of layers and precise microorganisation. Their rhythmologies
are controlled chaos which is the most interesting thing for
my brain. I don't see any frequency madness in pan sonic.
All the frequencies they incorporate have been used during
the 80's by groups like coil etc. They are too minimal even
simplistic most of the times while autechre are the pinnacle
of subtle evolution, complexity and micro rhythmical
organising. THeir works are an artificial pseudo biological
environment. You shouldn't assume that we haven't given pan
sonic our full attention or that we're biased.


 

offline RedSky from Chicago (United States) on 2004-06-30 13:37 [#01261303]
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Pan Sonic would likely devour Autechre in a fight, although
Autechre would survive inside of Pan Sonic's body and
eventually start controlling it.

However, parts of the Pantechre would start to drop off and
fizzle on the floor. Then somebody from Europe would sample
the fizzling and become popular. Maybe I could find their CD
in the States.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-30 14:00 [#01261316]
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What the fuck? The whole 4 discs is like a beat with a
distorted synth going "ssquuurhshhhsh" and making some
semplance of 'angry' melodies.


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-06-30 15:09 [#01261344]
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why do u think he is goin to be from europe?


 

offline RedSky from Chicago (United States) on 2004-07-02 09:08 [#01263333]
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Because Americans don't sample anymore. It's not kosher.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-02 09:17 [#01263342]
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alva noto is good, but i find Ryuchi Ikeda better


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-02 09:27 [#01263354]
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what does this have to do with anything?


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-02 09:59 [#01263401]
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its about mika vainio, tvat


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-02 10:29 [#01263456]
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alva noto and mike vainio are the same person?


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2004-07-02 10:31 [#01263459]
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yes. alva noto is mika vainio, i thought you knew that.


 

offline weltact from Taiwan on 2004-07-07 13:38 [#01269240]
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u ignorant twat
first of all twat is spelled with W
and second of all alva noto is carsten nicolai, and mika
vainio is mika vainio


 


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