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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-12 21:03 [#01237320]
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Underrated peice of work...OK it wasn't the drum and bass follow up people where expecting, and yes it had lost the Playford era sounds but still there are some really heart felt moments on the album.
I like it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-12 21:08 [#01237328]
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i like it.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-06-12 21:11 [#01237337]
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NOt a bad release, but not a great one either. Maybe Ill dig it out tonight and give it a whirl again.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-06-12 21:14 [#01237340]
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i only have ring of saturn, the follow up of saturnzreturn. haven't given saturnzreturn a listen (maybe skimmed through it once or twice, i have the mp3s)
optical co-produced it. he's my favourite producer in drum&bass.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-12 21:15 [#01237341]
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Opticals a bit of a one trick pony...two step with phased bass...got really predictable really quickly (obviously that is just personal opinion).
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-12 21:16 [#01237342]
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well i think dnb in general is very predictable.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-06-12 21:19 [#01237346]
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well, that can be said basicly about every drum&bass track 98 till now. it's a real simple way of descriping his tunes.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-12 21:22 [#01237348]
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Not really. There are producers out there who do try different things with a bit of diversity. Optical is very good, I just don't think he is the best out there.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-12 21:22 [#01237351]
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it captures that moment in time when drum and bass started to get a bit tired perfectly
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-12 22:04 [#01237401]
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Yeah... I have this and .... I don't dig it.
Back in early highschool I heard some insane drum n bass on the radio, went out to buy some, picked up this release and grooverider's mysteries of funk, and whereas mysteries is still cool they kinda killed drum n bass for me. I wanted the kinda dark bassline aggro shit.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-12 22:07 [#01237403]
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you needed Torque :D
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-12 22:09 [#01237405]
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mysteries of funk. now there's an album that does that late 90s DnB sound well
i learnt to juggle to that album :)
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-12 22:10 [#01237406]
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Also that techsteppy pop-DnB that Aphrodite was peddling around 1998/99 was ACE!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-12 22:11 [#01237408]
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I liked mysteries of funk less that ringz of saturn, probably less than saturnz return too.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-06-12 22:12 [#01237410]
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mysteries of funk kicks booty, it's also co-produced by optical :)
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2004-06-12 22:14 [#01237412]
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As far as both albums are concerned...I guess I would pick Grooveriders over Goldie's.
Both albums seems to wear out real quick, but that may be my stubborness. (Is that a word?)
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-12 22:28 [#01237418]
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That track with David Bowie on it.
What a load of wank. Exhibit A.
Ganja Kru's Supa Sharp Shooter was ace though - I'm getting quite misty-eyed and nostalgic here :'(
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-12 22:49 [#01237436]
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Am I the only one who adores the 60min MOTHER track?...
BTW his recent book "NINE LIVES : GOLDIE" is a great read - going back to his Graf days thru the days of RAGE at Heaven, TERMINATOR to TIMELESS to SATURN RETURNZ....
Recommended....if you wanna understand the guy a little better...
and yeah..he mixes most of his work on E .... perfect geezer he is...
(shit, I sound like I'm in Love...:)...
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-06-12 23:05 [#01237450]
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Isn't that other disc two tracks - mother and saturn, somewhere around half an hour each?
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2004-06-12 23:09 [#01237458]
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Yeah, that's the wank i'm on about.
My original of Drukqs is scratchd t'fuck. so mp3 copies of same now reside in Saturnz's snazzy case. The album itself now resides in my 'doesn't even merit a case' drawer.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-12 23:11 [#01237459]
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Mother is around 60 mins...Disc 1 of SR...(followed by some crappy little track I think...)..
InnerCityLife/Jah etc...is 21mins, I think...
Rings of Saturn is like a remix album of SR - (with a 8min ver mother..VIP remix....)...
I so wish some phucker hadn't borrowed my 2 CD ver of TIMELESS....
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-12 23:13 [#01237461]
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A Guy Called Geralds "Black Secret Technology" is THE DnB/Jungle album...
Forgotten classic...(2 versions iirc - Original & a remixed, with more BASS, later re-release...)...
BUY IT/DL IT....you won't regret it....
Nobody does it better!!..
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Torley Wong
on 2004-06-13 00:59 [#01237544]
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I like "Mother" but I felt some of it was too stretched out and exhausting for me personally. I liked a lot of the phrases though like the whole phasey rain thing and that syncopated pizzicato buildup. My favorite Goldie would still be "Inner City Life". "Temper Temper" has this weird lilt to it that always strikes me, it's quite the precedessor of Punk/DnB crossovers that became more common since. I wonder when Goldie will release another artist album of original tracks? :)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-13 02:12 [#01237560]
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heh...That first 6 mins of noise at the begginning is either very brave, very stupid or somekind of test...
And yeah, TT, is very cool....I've got a number of Goldie CD singles & I believe that has the video on it...
Time to do some digging....
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nacmat
on 2004-06-13 02:26 [#01237565]
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have it and like it
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-13 02:29 [#01237566]
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ohitsallrightmatesoundsabitlikegoldie
ohitsallrightmatesoundsabitlikegoldie
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-06-13 02:39 [#01237571]
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it's no wormhole :)
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Torley Wong
on 2004-06-13 15:31 [#01238422]
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Wormhole, as in Ed Rush & Optical style? :)
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2004-06-13 15:33 [#01238425]
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Dragonfly is a lovely, lovely piece of work. I think this album tends to get slated unneccesarily... i mean it's a bit patchy, but not the mess that everyone made it out to be.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-13 15:34 [#01238429]
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Wormhole wasn't that good. In fact it was mostly shit. I can listen to a couple of tracks then I get bored and turn it off.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2004-06-13 16:05 [#01238503]
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i borrowed it from the library one time and wasn't feeling it. timeless is one of my favorite albums ever. i wish more dnb artists would make ALBUMS instead of fucking singles.
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