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offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:01 [#01235110]
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Okay perhaps that's a bit of a harsh statement but I just
don't get it. I mean at all. Fucking RJD2, DJ Shadow and
the rest of this genre is so hurting. Boring with a capital
fucking B.

To me, the beauty of hip hop is a sick MC flowing over a
dope beat. Hip hop needs both elements to work IMHO.

Anyone with me?


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:02 [#01235113]
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no.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-11 10:04 [#01235122]
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Generally 'a sick MC flowing over it' is what makes me
dislike hip-hop. And that's probably why I think most
instrumental hiphop is boring, and there are only a few that
I like, such as Prefuse 73, Autechre (HAH!), uh,


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-06-11 10:06 [#01235130]
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I like it. So eff you!


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:07 [#01235131]
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I prefer instrumental hip-hop, vocals spoil it for me, but I
tend to call it trip-hop then anyway.


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:08 [#01235135]
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see.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-11 10:09 [#01235136]
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you've come to the wrong forum!


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:10 [#01235138]
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told you.....


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-06-11 10:16 [#01235146]
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you suck


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:17 [#01235150]
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No doubt. :)

But honestly when I hang out with friends and they put that
shit on, it makes me want to give up on music altogether. I
wonder if my friends think Autechre is this trite.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:17 [#01235151]
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I'm going to amend what I said, I DO like vocals when
they've been messed about with, like some of the things
Prefuse 73,Machine Drum and Funkstorung have done.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:17 [#01235155]
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Ha! Perhaps I hitting too close to home.


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-11 10:19 [#01235160]
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haha
probably


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 10:19 [#01235161]
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check climber "downtown loop" and ammoncontact and then say
it sucks...


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:20 [#01235163]
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its all good thirdball ; )


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-06-11 10:20 [#01235165]
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next time, try an "autechre suck" thread, i'm sure you'll be
immensely popular and everyone will like you.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 10:22 [#01235169]
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you can find samples of downtown lop, through this thread


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:24 [#01235172]
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I love Autechre - among my favs. Don't get me wrong, it's
just after hearing this stuff (Instrumental Hip Hop), I can
see why people listen to classic rock.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:24 [#01235174]
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Thanks dude.


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:25 [#01235175]
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eh? care to elabrate?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-11 10:25 [#01235177]
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who won the xlt-championships btw?

o its them brooth brothers provinding us with their 'if you
think our music is generative you're a moron and we'll kill
you'-music (new album will be a floppy disk with a program
which generates a new tune every time you use it)


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2004-06-11 10:26 [#01235178]
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whats wrong with rock music? you snob


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:27 [#01235183]
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Well I kind of agree about DJ Shadow, he's had his day, I
only liked two tracks off his last album, but there's still
loads of good stuff out there, surely anyone who uses a
sampled breakbeat is dealing with hip-hop in some way and
isn't that nearly everyone?


 

offline DeadEight from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:27 [#01235186]
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some instrumental hip hop bores me to tears, and some is
absolutely wicked...


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:29 [#01235193]
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i agree with the drummond boy. i was brought up on queen,
E.L.O.,floyd etc....still like to hear that shit.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2004-06-11 10:30 [#01235199]
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What's wrong with classic rock, you silly person?


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:32 [#01235205]
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I love classic rock, but heck it gets boring after a while.

I'm going to see Slayer on Tuesday... so ....


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:34 [#01235208]
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I can see why people listen to classic rock exclusively,
okay?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:34 [#01235209]
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I hate both DJ Shadow and Prefuse 73. I've tried umpteen
times to listen to numerous albums by them and they are
shit. In. My. Opinion.


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:35 [#01235211]
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man, i saw slayer on the reign of pain tour (and about 6
time since), but i wouldnt call em "classic rock".


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:36 [#01235214]
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Fair enough - but I have lots of shit in my collection
including:
Van Halen
Stones
The Who
Yes


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:37 [#01235215]
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as long as theres no stryper, thats cool!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 10:38 [#01235216]
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i dislike prefuse very very much as well...i like shadow's
entroducing quite a bit though. anyway, nice to see another
person disliking prefuse, especially on this mb.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:39 [#01235219]
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Back to 'Instrumental Hip Hop' okay...


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-06-11 10:39 [#01235221]
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Why is it? Prefuse is great, it's your loss by not liking
him.


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:40 [#01235222]
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does that mean you DO have some stryper?


 

offline dequalsrxt from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-11 10:40 [#01235224]
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i don't know...it's hard for me to take the rhymes out of
hip-hop...afrika bambaataa, run-dmc, the various garage and
house movements...all of that stuff is so vocal-driven and
forms the basis of hip-hop.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 10:41 [#01235227]
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i find it very boring for some reason...that is why i don't
like it. if it will make you feel anytter, i don't like
antipop consortium either.


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 10:43 [#01235231]
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No Stryper - after all "God hates us all" :)


 

offline dogboy from brighton (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-11 10:45 [#01235234]
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indeed he does, indeed he does......

i wish i was seeing slayer on tuesday (goes and sulks in
corner)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-11 11:25 [#01235284]
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shrug, I LOVE instrumental hip-hop, but mostly dislike
rap... I find rapping annoying... whereas the beats and
stuff of hip-hop are great... so, take away the rapping and
I'm won over...


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 12:36 [#01235408]
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I don't know about that 'Climber' record - it's very much
like Fila Brazillia which is hardcore donkey piss.


 

offline nacmat on 2004-06-11 12:38 [#01235412]
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NO!


 

offline thethirdball from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-06-11 12:39 [#01235418]
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Sorry - I don't like Fila Brazillia, and was having a good
time with it.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 13:25 [#01235514]
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personally i love fila brazillia, but climber doesn't really
remind me of them :)


 

offline herbwest from Seattle (United States) on 2004-06-11 13:31 [#01235526]
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is it only me who considers a large portion of Boards of
Canada's work to be instrumental hip-hop? i'm surprised
their name hasn't come up yet in this discussion. i find
that nearly every song they do that features beats, features
very hip-hop'esque beats. do you find BOC boring? i
certainly don't. they is my favorites.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-06-11 13:36 [#01235534]
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boc are pretty boring, yes...i wouldn't exactly call it hip
hop either...


 

offline cutups from Pittsburgh (United States) on 2004-06-11 14:01 [#01235574]
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its pretty bold to say you don't like *all* instrumental
hiphop. theres a pretty huge variety. and really...on an
"idm" board, you're talking to the exact audience who is
into instrumental stuff. its kind of like going onto a
board for mcs and saying "i wish all them mcs would shut
up!!".

IMO theres good and bad of everything.


 

offline dequalsrxt from Los Angeles (United States) on 2004-06-11 14:07 [#01235580]
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it may be good music on its own, but if there's no rapping,
you may as well call it something else IMO...cause it ain't
hip-hop.


 

offline cutups from Pittsburgh (United States) on 2004-06-11 14:16 [#01235588]
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depends on how touchy you are about categorizations.
a track with the vocals taken out is called an instrumental.
a hiphop track with the vocals taken out is reasonably
called instrumental hiphop. its not like its a big deal.

tracks that have a hiphop feel but never had vocals gat
labeled the same way. i think its fine. its not like its a
dis to hiphop any more than alot of (fill in the style you
hate) hiphop is a dis to hiphop. its still part of a *very*
big culture.

not to mention that instrumentals are a dj's best
friend...if you're bored by listening to the instrumental,
cut that shit up!


 


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