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belagio
from lakeside on 2004-06-09 19:21 [#01231952]
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I was intrigued how digital stuff like later ae would sound
on vinyl. ep7 - I find it is more airy (stereoy) and bit smoother on vinyl. harsh digital trainsients toned down a bit.
Anybody has impression on this?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-09 19:22 [#01231954]
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yes.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-09 19:24 [#01231955]
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Sorry, I mean it depends on the release. I prefer the earlier stuff and Draft on vinyl, and I prefer everything else on CD as I like the sharp digital sound in there.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-09 19:28 [#01231959]
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they have said themselves that CD comes closest to what it sounds like to them, on DAT I think.
and on the other hand you have the note on the "tri repetae" sleeve that would indicate that they'd like you to listen to that release on vinyl.
but it's whatever you prefer yourself ofcourse.
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belagio
from lakeside on 2004-06-09 19:28 [#01231961]
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I see. Squellor on cd was like it seems to trying to rip apart
speakers whereas on vinyl it is more chugging along. I find ae's digital sound is smoother than most others.
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belagio
from lakeside on 2004-06-09 19:34 [#01231970]
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I think I would prefer ep7 on vinyl most of the time except for when trying to waking myself up.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-09 19:43 [#01231981]
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MP3 compression <=192 has a strange rounding effect on ae's music. Every MP3 of Confield I have heard sounds appauling...the same with other releases of theirs..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-09 19:51 [#01231994]
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autechre's music is well known for getting completely fucked when compressed.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-09 19:55 [#01231999]
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I know, but the first thing I ever downloaded was Bine off Confield when I couldn't find the CD one night and I couldn't beleive how bad it sounded in MP3 form. I think I posted about it at the time, but I can't remember :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-09 19:57 [#01232000]
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it's a pity to think that some people only hear autechre in mp3-form and then think it's crap, while they haven't really heard it then.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-06-09 20:01 [#01232006]
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I've often wondered just how many people have made their mind up on low quality MP3's...Autechre are the perfect arguement again MP3's being used for sampling new releases because the tracks rely so much on full frequency response as a major component.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-09 23:35 [#01232226]
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Autechre themselves said CD is really the way they hear it in the studio, so it's more true to form I'd think.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-06-09 23:43 [#01232233]
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qrter already said that.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-09 23:45 [#01232235]
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I guess that's what I get for not reading the thread.
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kc
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-06-10 00:08 [#01232251]
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All I've heard of Autechre has been mp3. I don't have a stereo, and I figure I don't need one when I've got a bitchin sound card and speakers that are much better than my old stereo speakers. Whenever I buy a cd, I tend to just rip it and compress it... It also helps to have the mp3s since I use my iPod instead of my discman now.
I guess I should go through my Autechre cds the way they're meant to be then, eh? Wonder if I'll hear a difference.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2004-06-10 00:15 [#01232258]
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i just have a burnt copy of confield... but i love it... the sound is very sharp... i know i wouldn't like the sound of it on vinyl...
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Bremzen
from utrecht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-06-10 01:58 [#01232326]
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ipods can play uncompressed audio, can't they?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-06-10 02:02 [#01232328]
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i get as much ae on vinyl as i can
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-06-10 02:03 [#01232329]
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like, all of that shit
not about to toss it in a cd player
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-06-10 02:08 [#01232330]
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well im lying
not all of it
i wish though
i only have ep7.1 and ep7.2 on vinyl, gantz graf, draft 7.30, and confield
rest i have on CD i believe
i need cichlisuite on vinyl very very badly, that is like fucking priority
i want amber on cassette too, that would be fucking tight
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-06-10 02:17 [#01232332]
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vinyl will always sound better than anything else
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polygonwrong
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-10 02:21 [#01232333]
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I prefer Vinyl, it's a much more dynamic sounding medium, but CD's are more convinient. I just wish DAT had took as the consumer medium when they were pushing for it many moons ago. I yearn for DVD as the standard medium, one day.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-10 02:30 [#01232338]
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Cichlisuite L or whatever (peencha + yeesland, it says (l->r) on the back) is in print I think, pretty easy to find, probably could get it on ebay for 5-7 bucks. But I dunno what the deal is with the other half of Cichlisuite, I think it's quire rare.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-10 03:02 [#01232358]
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NEVER LISTENED to them in vinyl
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k_maty
on 2004-06-10 03:23 [#01232397]
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I think you can get their albums on either one, but definately get their eps on vinyl, envane sounds wicked hip-hopish at 33 rpm.
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belagio
from lakeside on 2004-06-10 05:20 [#01232592]
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I have all ae cd's and now I'm buying vinyls again. arggh, aren't they expensive to keep.
But sound-oriented music really feels different with slight change. Different monitors, recording medium, audio interface, etc. And whether you feel hungry or full, etc.
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gack
from the middle of nowhere (Germany) on 2004-06-10 09:29 [#01232899]
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the solution is easy: trying to get any release in both physical formats. (i agree that the vinyl versions do have more pressure than the cds, but especially the newer releases sound more "precise" on cd. it depends on what you want - SOUNDS or MUSIC).
mp3 is a violation of music. even a "cd quality" rip (i once tried 256 kbit/s) of e.g. gantz graf destroys everything worth being listened to.
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